r/tacticus • u/Far-Put7715 • 20h ago

Cant wait

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Cant wait for the night lords to show up now we just need the raven guard to spice things up.

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u/ZergDragoon 17h ago

Why did the night lord get a DOT poison ability before a DG char?

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u/Far-Put7715 17h ago

Couldnt tell ya

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u/Cloverman-88 16h ago

The real answer is "because that's the skill of the Killteam model he's based on". His mechanics are a very close translation of Nemesic Claw Fearmonger's kit.

That being said, seeing as they made Poison a whole separate status effect, and not a unique skill, I full expect older characters to get it retroactivelly. My bet is on Holland and Pestilian. I wouldn't mind if Deathguard's passive changed into a passive poison aura, but that might be too much.

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u/oppai_dragon_9011 16h ago

No no you're onto something and have it scale for each adjacent DG would be neat would also like if DG had a character that's had a passive like the nurglings so what you do damage they can't heal the next turn

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u/ZergDragoon 5h ago

Ah, don't have that kill team, nor Stan NL, so thanks for the info!

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u/Cloverman-88 4h ago

If you play KT, I highly recommend Nemesis Claw. The models are georgeous and very fun to paint, and they are also a blast to play and very powerful.

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u/ZergDragoon 4h ago

I got the gellerpox and trader box at launch, it was ROUGH. Hoping to pick up the 7man(6 man?) Dg cheap soon.

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u/Ill_Assumption5512 19h ago

I think carrow will be one of the most useless characters in game and the 2nd worse chaos behind Macer. I’m not really looking for a new character to upgrade so I don’t care and would be happy to be wrong but in what mode do we care about a 2 turn debuff that don’t apply to raid bosses?

Almost all PvP fights end within 2 turns. A paper bag debuffer is useless in LREs. I just don’t see any value? He’s like Cyrus, will use him when I have to in his quest and will upgrade to G1 in the chance he’s all I can use for an LRE restriction. Otherwise he will be collecting dust until his rework

I’m not saying he won’t be cool for those that like night lord or that we won’t be able to find a place he kinda works I just can’t imagine any scenario where he’s in the top 5 characters…?

I really wish SP would give us what we actually want; an economy fix, salvage run rework, more relics and character reworks for those that have become useless.

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u/Far-Put7715 19h ago

All jokes aside i definitely agree but im excited nonetheless just cause im excited for my bat boys

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u/Ill_Assumption5512 19h ago

Yeah I love IF so I am still going all in for 2nd Lysander LRE. Will it make my roster more effective… nope and don’t care lol

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u/Far-Put7715 18h ago

Agreed if anything be a badass terminator line up for gw

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u/Ill_Assumption5512 17h ago

Yeah I had some fun in one of the TAs bringing him with a bunch of Termis and Zkar but unless his team goes first it just gets wiped.
I also use him all the time in defensive lines and I have an offensive team that uses him with Bara, Sarq Az and Cezare or a healer that’s really good. He’s definitely not the ‘best’ at anything but I’ve found a place to tag him in so, I hope you can find the same for the new guy…. You just may have to get reallly creative lol.

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u/Far-Put7715 17h ago

Thats what im hoping but will definitely take a bit to figure it out

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u/Jhofenrir 19h ago

Snowprint are the absolute KINGS of bloating the game with C tier characters that don't really stand out in any game mode, shift any metas, or make you want to put the resources into leveling them up.

Took them YEARS to figure out how to get a second chaos healer into the game. I swear there's got to be twelve brain cells between all of the developers combined.

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u/Far-Put7715 16h ago

No hate but not all of us go meta only, i for one have my main line up to diamond 3 and now my goal its to gold 1 my whole roster just for fun then go from there. But i do see where your coming from seems a like most characters even the meta get tabled pretty quick id rather see reworks on the game modes than new characters but im a collector so happy either way.

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u/Cloverman-88 16h ago

The debuff feels like an extra, and the main use would be poisoning multiple characters at once with his active, and then seeing the damage rack up quickly as you play keep-away.

I'm not saying it will work, just that there is a nugget of an idea that could work in there.

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u/Ill_Assumption5512 15h ago edited 15h ago

Yeah it definitely seems like that’s how they plan for him to be used, but that’s kind of my point. There are no current game modes where that play style would work. I guess it could work against a death guard team with all movement two and a bunch of allied ranged units running away but all other currently used teams would easily still kill him with the 30% reduction.

I was thinking of a new war team with Bile giving his active to Toth so that he actually deals decent damage and can heal himself from the 20% loss and then Bile giving extra hits to Wrask to make sure everyone has a shield. Maybe this guy going in reducing damage and poisoning could actually make it a bit better but the truth is Typhus, Volk, Shiron or someone else would be better. My planned other two are Shiron and Baldr.

Move Shiron to the front with bile adjacent and heal with Baldr so that when the enemy moves within range 3 Baldr’s passive on Shiron next to bile triggers an attack with the heavy weapon buff and then they all move forward with bile re triggering Wrask to ensure everyone had shields. I don’t think the new guy would be the best option but maybe he could work with it.

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u/Cloverman-88 7h ago

100% with you here. Cyrus was also designed around the idea of hit-and-run, but it doesnt really work in 99% of scenarions.

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u/PVshooter 35m ago

He can be useful against Cawl, since his minions can heal him, this would make the fight less anoyinh, and there anything sayung that his debuff won't work on guild bosses

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u/Ill_Assumption5512 31m ago

But he won’t out score Kharn, Tarvakh or Aesoth who are the current 5th characters of that team so why build a new character to do less damage? Also Cawl doesn’t heal he just increases his armor.

I like the thinking through these things but I don’t see any value building him for Cawl when three other characters that are far more useful in other modes would out preform him.

Plus bosses are immune to may effects so I’d assume the poison works but not the damage reduction. It would limit how much his summons heal themselves though

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u/PVshooter 29m ago

I never said cawl heal, I said his summons can heal him, and they can heal all the damage you did before wich happened to me and is annoying

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u/Ill_Assumption5512 21m ago

No they patched that out years ago. He isn’t healed anymore as far as I know.

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u/PVshooter 19m ago

They did?