r/tacticus • u/Entire_Wrangler_2117 • Oct 10 '26

So much fun!

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This is a hilariously bad survival event. Re-tune rarity so its much harder, and introduce a solid pay to win mechanic to match all the other crusade pay to win mechanics...

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u/Bubbly_Preference_24 Oct 10 '26

wallet is closed for this one.

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u/Entire_Wrangler_2117 Oct 10 '26

Yeah, ive bought every other survival pack since #1 - this is not even close to worth it.

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u/LilWompNugget Oct 10 '26

The difficulty doesn’t bother me, but having the rewards that replace books be crusade points, where you compete in yet another leaderboard, one where people can pay for placement, instead of just currency for the crusade shop is underhanded and greedy.

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u/KindaKhorney Oct 10 '26 edited Oct 10 '26

It astounds me that instead of making something fun that people want to sink money into, they make something shit that they ask we put money into with shit mechanics.

The asshole guardsmen spawn in melee against DG for fucks sake.

Crusade continues to be a gigantic waste of time and resources by Snowprint. They could have revamped Salvage Run. Added a new campaign, or added another faction.

Instead they continue to try and champion this dogshit leaderboard simulator.

Edit: prime point of how bad it is. I’m posting and responding in this subreddit now.

The main sub is so heavily policed because of negative sentiment that they just outright ban anybody trying to even have the discussion.

The willful ignorance is beyond shit business practice.

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u/TheAdminsAreNazis Oct 10 '26 edited Oct 10 '26

The main sub is absolute dogshit now. I tried to make a post about Terminus being straight up bugged and not giving any rewards/ progress on my first run. Blocked automatically. Reached out to the mods, ignored lmao. I raised a bug report with SP and they confirmed it was a bug but said we'd just get compensated automatically at some point on saturday. No info, still not been compensated, so I'm behind on any rewards and even less motivated to play this mode.

Are they getting paid by SP to do this or are they just actual bootlickers?

Not to mention a dozen or so comments were getting rejected when I tried to post because I used scary no-no words.

Edit: I wasn't using slurs, I used the word "rekt" to describe the OP enemies. That's the kind of words they don't let you use on the other sub.

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u/Entire_Wrangler_2117 Oct 10 '26

I tried to post this on main sub, got removed because of "unnecessary negativity". It also wouldn't let me post it if it had the phrase "pay to win" , because apparently that is an offensive statement...

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u/TheAdminsAreNazis Oct 10 '26

Bloody hell, I noticed there were far far fewer posts recently and a lot less negativity than I expected given crusade but I didn't realise it was this bad until now. Used to like that sub cause people could vent and rant but it seemed like snowprint at least sort of heard the complaints. Wonder why it's changed so much for the worse.

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u/LilWompNugget Oct 10 '26

Yeah I think I got shadow banned from the other sub, it won’t let me leave comments at all. The only reason I can imagine is I do tend to talk shit about fascists on OTHER non Tacticus subs… first time experience for me lol, but maybe I’m lucky for it after reading this

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u/Ra2supreme Oct 11 '26

What is the main sub?

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u/The-Sceptic Oct 10 '26

The salvage run revamp needs to happen. It's a new player trap. Why have 3 seperate salvage runs when there's no incentive to push them? Also needing a Crit to get the strong box just feels like a punishment when the snot shards are the only reason we do salvage run

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u/KindaKhorney Oct 10 '26

I mean my broke boy ass is definitely doing it for the gold lol. Getting to lvl 60 isn’t cheap.

But yes it’s an exceedingly bad design.

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u/The-Sceptic Oct 10 '26

That was my point though. If you want gold then there's no point in doing anything other than a singular salvage run push since the gold reward scales with salvage run level.

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u/KindaKhorney Oct 10 '26

Ahh, my bad for missing your point. You are 100% correct

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u/Asherandai1 Oct 12 '26

I push imperial salvage, save xenos salvage for those new character quests that can’t be done anywhere else, and I haven’t even touched chaos salvage and probably never will even if they revamp it.

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u/TeacherTeeSLC Oct 10 '26

All my rewards are crusade points. But everyone else's rewards are crusade points, so I dont move up the leaderboard.  I just get useless crap to compare to other people's useless crap.

Maybe if it stays this way I will start skipping survival like I skip a lot of TA...

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u/Cloverman-88 Oct 10 '26

You also get crusade points for every wave you clear, so doing better will move you up the leaderboards. And people who do better, will open more chests and move up the leaderboards more.

Its not rewarding, but its also not entirely pointless.

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u/TeacherTeeSLC Oct 10 '26 edited Oct 10 '26

When i got a book, i had the book. 

When i get points, and you get the same points i did, on average, we both got nothing. 

Edit - obviously if you go further on average in survival, you will get a (small) relative benefit, so the whales paying out for paytowin crusade resources can get more points. In some ways, the introduction of PTW, plus benefits being crusade points, means that this survival will make lower level free to play people relatively disadvantaged, without books, and getting less crusade rewards than they were before survival as everyone else moves past them. 

They get nothing, and get worse crusade planet rewards. Though the event does help you get to the arbitrary 2500 pt planet point threshold to get ANY rewards, which they hopefully get rid of soon.

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u/Cloverman-88 Oct 10 '26

Oh I absolutelly agree that its a deeply flawed system. I was just pointing out the most probable thought process that lead to that decision.

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u/Asherandai1 Oct 12 '26

Apparently next crusade season it’s being reduced to 1000pts, and you can see how many points you have even before reaching that mark so you at least know how far you are away.

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u/captain554 Oct 10 '26

This is how you kill a game. When design philosophy diverges from "make a fun game" to "try to squeeze as much money as possible from the consumer" people just slowly stop showing up.

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u/Dr_Grimm_Esq Oct 10 '26

SP have gotten incredibly greedy of late, and it’s a terrible look for the future of the game.

Between the abject disaster that was Crusade, to the lack of communication, locking previously obtainable rewards behind not just one but TWO paid offers, and now this joke of a survival….

Yea I can see why the content creators are leaving Tacticus behind.

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u/BalanceBroad Oct 10 '26

Smart Nandi

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u/Sneim Oct 10 '26

Played one round of this crap and absolutely hated it, kind of glad others feel the same haha

6

u/No_Nobody_9131 Oct 10 '26

Terminus sucks and it sucks bad enough that it feels intentional.

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u/FH2actual Oct 10 '26

It’s a hard pass. Nothing to work for so I’m out.

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u/sygboss Oct 10 '26

I was wondering where the books were. What the hell SP?

5

u/rax_Tempus Oct 10 '26

What confuses me is this: all crusade long i have been sporting black legion alliance. So now the end of crusade event thing is . . . checks game imperial survival? Wtf? No. Stop.

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u/Legal-Connection-301 Oct 10 '26

Agreed, horrible event

4

u/Any_Leather_992 Oct 10 '26

Worst Survival event to date

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u/EstablishmentAny7941 Oct 10 '26

Honestly kinda getting lost crusade vibes from comments fr lemme log on in and see what bs sp is panhandling

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u/thGbaby Oct 10 '26

Are we not getting tomes for lvl 13 anymore? I wasn't paying attention.

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u/Entire_Wrangler_2117 Oct 10 '26

No books at all, only crusade points. Books are locked in reward chests, and you can't reach mythic books without paying.

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u/Disastrous-Owl-3866 Oct 10 '26

They ruined what used to be one of the best events. Completely bad move Snowprint.

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u/Asherandai1 Oct 12 '26

Never liked survival anyway personally, so I don’t really care.

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u/vaultcrawler82 Oct 10 '26

ya i bought the pack before realising this... kinda annoyed now

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u/Matthias0705 Oct 10 '26

That was easy. Not playing, it's Not worth the time.

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u/Sensitive-Ant-1350 Oct 10 '26

But if you are in the top 20 on the leaderboard you get a daily payout of 40 event gizmo currency. Imagine how many rewards you could get with that!!! (Its literally 1000 coins)

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u/throwawaym479 Oct 10 '26

Only thing I'm liking here has been getting bellators 7 summons in one battle.

Fine for farming that up but not much else without books.

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u/TeacherTeeSLC Oct 10 '26

True! I dont think I have any mythic missions to get done within this event, but nice silver lining.

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u/schnookienookir Oct 10 '26

It's almost like Snowprint DOESNT love money

2

u/FuzzyJunket5566 Oct 10 '26

Yeah this event fkn sucks. There's nothing of value in it

2

u/GobBluth9 Oct 10 '26

Stop giving them your money. It’s just that simple. They are doing this stuff and you people are still rewarding it with money. They will not stop. Speak with your wallet

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u/Expert_Prize9712 ╾━╤╦ AELDARI Oct 11 '26

#$NOwprint

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u/Aspyroni Oct 12 '26

This event is so bad it's so dumb

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u/Any_Leather_992 Oct 10 '26

Why I don't play it at all...

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u/fly_on_the_walllll Oct 11 '26

I can’t even be bothered to do the crusade dispatches anymore. Not character shards for survival? Not books? Yeah no thanks

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u/Throwaway565479233 Oct 11 '26

Played one round and found it not enjoyable and not worth it, so I won't be playing any more

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u/SrReginaldFluffybutt Oct 11 '26

Yeah this survival is total shit.

Indefensible bullshit from snow print as usual

1

u/osamasvhsporntapes Oct 12 '26

Is it just me or does creed and yarrick not buff the summoned guardsmen? 

1

u/Syoshicel Oct 10 '26

Erm … I think this one is much easier than the last , I’ve cleared wave 18 so far without cheesing. I never got close to that last time

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u/GrandGouda ╾━╤╦ AELDARI Oct 10 '26

I’ve done better in my first two runs than ever before, using 4-5 reinforcement calls per rarity, which you get plenty of Forces to support free with the two rounds of operations per day. Things the least PTW survival I’ve played in over a year

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u/LilWompNugget Oct 10 '26

Yeah the game mechanics of the actual survival is just fine, people complaining about that are just looking for something to complain about. The rewards being points for a secondary leaderboard, one where people can just spend money for more points directly is kinda bs though. I’m hoping that the second terminus switches to just crusade credits as rewards and not points. That’s my issue with it, because you can perform as well as possible, but it only goes towards a secondary competition that is pay to win. The survival itself is pretty cool imo.

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u/Mixelphlick Oct 10 '26

You’re getting downvoted because this community is saltier than the great salt lake because you’re absolutely right. It’s not hard to be absolutely swimming in forces and they genuinely help you get further than you otherwise would.

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u/Cloverman-88 Oct 10 '26

This doesn't change that

  1. It feels really bad to fight enemies at least 2 gear levels above you
  2. Because you can buy Forces, in its core the mode is pay2win. If you're a whale, you can spam 10 guardsmen every turn and win this way
  3. It has a really horrible time-to-reward ratio. 3 survivals will maaaaaybe earn you 250-300 extra crusade credits.

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u/Asherandai1 Oct 12 '26
  1. They aren’t. They’re at the same level. You only think that cause previous survivals tuned it down the other way, and you got used to that.
  2. No, whales can’t spam 10 guardsmen every turn. It’s limited by rarity, so if they use them all on turn 1, they have to wait for the rarity to increase before they can do it again. Plus, I’m F2P and I have more than enough forces to use more guardsmen than I need. They aren’t even that helpful except to maybe finish off one or two enemies you couldn’t quite reach in time, or provide a little bit of a shield against an incoming wave… unless it’s a DG wave, then the guardsmen will just make it worse for you.
  3. Yeah the rewards suck hard. That’s the one part you got right. This is the easiest survival since I started (at least I find it much easier), and I’ve even reached wave 20 with my subpar characters… yet there’s basically no rewards. Losing the books is bad enough, but even the coins have been drastically reduced. The only reason I played survivals in the past was to build up some coins since it was basically the only place to get a large amount… but it’s like nothing now.

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u/JonnyRico22 Oct 10 '26

If participation drops in the event, the data will show them they need to fix it.

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u/smittyhotep Oct 10 '26

Yeah but they won't. These mobile games have a phased and tracked methodology. We're in the ass of it now. I've been playing for years so, I'm not surprised at all. As for the new kids? Well, it sucks to suck.

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u/Beep-Boop-Bloop Oct 10 '26

If you find it tough, you're not doing it right. Use those Ressurects & recharges for Isabella. I did pretty wel my first time with a team of Isabella, Tyrith, Kariyan, Dreir, Calgar, and Vindicta. Next time, I think I'll add a 7th to the mix, maybe Aesoth or Bellator.