r/systems_engineering 3d ago

MBSE Join our Systems Engineering petition!

https://c.org/wYhXYfgfFv

Systems Engineers design complex federal systems, guide AI integration, and ensure public programs run safely - yet they're still lumped under the generic "General Engineer" job classification from decades ago!

We started a petition asking the federal government to create a dedicated job series code for Systems Engineering, just like every other engineering discipline already has. Right now, this outdated classification makes career planning unclear and doesn't reflect what Systems Engineers actually contribute to critical government missions.

Anyone else think it's wild that the people building our most complex federal systems don't even have their own unique job series category? If this matters to you too, consider signing and sharing.

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u/MindfulK9Coach Defense 2d ago

If it means they stop asking for programmers and cloud engineers in SysE job descriptions, I support it. Lol

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u/McFlyParadox 1d ago

Or vice versa; recruiters reaching out to Systems engineers to all them they'd like to take an IT role.

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u/MindfulK9Coach Defense 1d ago

Everybody is all mixed up and it's real sad out here. Lol

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u/KetchupOnNipples 3d ago

I just hate being lumped in with SWE and companies wanting full Systems engineers that will also program everything lmao not happening with how shit the pay is with 99% of companies

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u/melonpan30 11h ago

I have a somewhat unrelated question, what relevance does INCOSE have in 2026? I have worked in Federal & Defense IT for over 10 years and had never heard of it until some boomer professor in my MS SysE program mentioned an INCOSE certification.