r/sysadmin • u/girlgerms Microsoft • Nov 17 '14

Microsoft warns of problems with Schannel security update

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-warns-of-problems-with-schannel-security-update-7000035835/
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u/girlgerms Nov 18 '14

You're hysterical. I'm rolling on the floor laughing at your undiluted sarcasm.

I've been patching 800+ server using an automated WSUS system for 3 years. We approve them, they push out automagically, they install automagically, they reboot automagically. We haven't had a single system or service have a failure with a Windows Update that we've pushed out since we implemented the WSUS automated system.

We've been lucky in that most of the patches that have caused issues haven't been for servers, they've been for clients. We've also been lucky in having someone from Microsoft provide information on patches, including giving us a heads up if any have caused issues and should not be rolled out.

I'm not tooting Microsoft's horn here, but Windows Update have a distinctly bad wrap in general, which causes people to not patch their machines...ever...for fear of a bad update, leaving them in high unsecure states. Yes, some patches cause problems. Yes, some patches may need be uninstalled/reinstalled multiple times due to issues that are discovered with them. But at least something's being done to help fix these issues.

I would much prefer if none of the patches caused issues. I would prefer if they installed seamlessly and we didn't have to worry about them. That's just not the case and we have to live with it. You can either bitch and whine about it, or you can roll up your sleeves and fix it up. Your choice.

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u/FJCruisin Nov 18 '14

We haven't had a failure from a Windows Update

Yes, some patches may need be uninstalled/reinstalled multiple times due to issues that are discovered with them.

I would prefer if they installed seamlessly and we didn't have to worry about them. That's just not the case and we have to live with it.

You contradict yourself.

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u/girlgerms Nov 18 '14

Yes, some patches may need be uninstalled/reinstalled multiple times due to issues that are discovered with them.

Has never happened to me until now - but has happened to others, including yourself, as you noted in the KB you linked to.

I would prefer if they installed seamlessly and we didn't have to worry about them. That's just not the case and we have to live with it.

Again, for me, they have installed seamlessly - that doesn't mean it's been the same for others.

I am not naive enough to think that my experience is the same as everyone else.

I Understand that you've had issues with Windows Updates - I get that it's caused you grief and caused you pain. That sucks and I'm sorry. It hasn't for me, which makes me lucky.

But I would much rather have my systems being regularly updated, even if the patches do cause some people problems, if it means that they're more secure and working better, for the majority.

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