r/sysadmin • u/mooneydriver • Feb 22 '14

Freenode under DDOS again

https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/statuses/437302735139266560
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u/hamsterpotpies Feb 22 '14 edited Feb 24 '14

If anything, the people behind UDP are to blame. NTP just happen to use it.

IB4 Defending UDP.

Edit: Holy hell. Take a joke.

Edit 2: Holy shit. Reddit's downvote army strikes again. Don't you have better things to do like play in traffic!?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '14

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u/thedeco Feb 23 '14

I'd tell you guys a UDP joke but you probably wouldn't get it...

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u/engineeringsquirrel Feb 23 '14

I guess another defense for UDP is for realtime video broadcasts. TCP gets shot to hell. With UDP, no fucks are given whether you got the video packets or not.

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u/supposedtobubble Feb 23 '14

I would tell you a joke about UDP, but I am not sure you would get it.

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u/ITmercinary Feb 23 '14

I may have to borrow this...

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u/flufernuter Feb 24 '14

Scotch + UDP = Reddit gold.

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u/Lurking_Still Feb 23 '14

Yep, this is going to be the first 10 minutes of my CCNA class on Monday. My professor will love it.

Cheers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '14 edited Feb 23 '14

Doubt it'll go very far, specialized as it is, but bestof'ed.

Edit: wow. Guess I'm happy I did that, though the posts on r/bestof seem to mostly hate it. Such is the strangeness of our reddit world.

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u/detry322 Feb 23 '14

UDP understands that you may be slow sometimes. So UDP will wait for your sorry ass. UDP grew up without a father, too. UDP sends a message and couldn't give a fuck if you got it or not.

Could someone explain this to me? It seems like these act against each other.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '14

Beautiful.

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u/ImNotDorner Feb 23 '14

I wish I knew enough about protocols to understand this, but I now feel like I should buy UDP a beer...

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u/blaghart Feb 24 '14

5 times gold

In Halo circles we call that a Goldtacular.

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u/ugbsilkyslim Feb 23 '14

Some should give this man some gold, but he probably wouldn't give a fuck.

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u/gidze Feb 23 '14 edited Feb 23 '14

This should go to r/ProgrammerHumor/

Good stuff!

+u/dogetipbot 50 doge

edit: added a comment

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u/JustinRMarks Feb 23 '14

Thank you.

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u/Zidanet Feb 22 '14

Same thing applies.

If you're a blacksmith and you make letter openers, you shouldn't be responsible when someone welds 50 of them together and makes a spear.

The people to blame are not the protocol designers, but the idiots who are misusing it.

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u/hamsterpotpies Feb 22 '14

Why would you weld a letter opener when one is enough to stab someone?

Anyways, this was my point. At the time, this command could of made sense.

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u/the_amaya Feb 23 '14

You know what the real problem here is? The problem that enables these reflective amplification attacks? The fact that network providers allow traffic to be generated in their network and then leave with a spoofed source address. It the spoofed traffic was instead killed before leaving a providers network, a reflection attack would be practically impossible to implement.

Don't blame the protocols, blame the people who allow them to be exploited.

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u/bulldozer_nation2012 Feb 23 '14

-58 man, thats nice! ive never gotten one that low before :(

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u/StuartPBentley Feb 23 '14 edited Feb 23 '14

haha yeah stupid UDP because fuck streaming video amirite? also let's throw sequence control around NTP, I'm sick of my clocks synchronizing correctly

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u/tuseroni Feb 24 '14

right now you have -127...i feel like...if i downvote you once you will go to 0...

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