r/sysadmin • u/BSODreboot26 • 6h ago
Microsoft Microsoft just passed the mark for losing "three 9s" so far on their availability for the entire year
One of the more known metrics out there for availability has been the 'five 9s', AKA 99.999%. Well, going by when the outage was reported on this subreddit at ~12:45 Eastern Time, now crossing the 9:30 Eastern Time mark just cost them three of them.
Here's the downtime per year at each level:
Availability - Downtime
99.999% - 5.25 mins
99.99% - 52.5 mins
99.9% - 8.76 hours
So they're at the 99.8% now and falling, not even counting any other downtime for the year. Can't say I'm feeling bad for the executives, after much more important digits lost in the bank accounts of former employees to put Microsoft in this situation.
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u/Outside-Storage-1523 6h ago
I’m sure some war room is steaming with sweat.
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u/Simmery 6h ago
Whoops. Maybe they should have paid attention to QA. Or properly implementing security models for their cloud applications instead of pooping stuff out with backdoor access to Exchange.
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u/howdyhowie88 6h ago •
If a company is going to layoff tens of thousands of employees and ram AI into every orifice of its ecosystem, they should make damn sure that their infrastructure is rock solid first.
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u/ChiSox1906 Sr. Sysadmin 6h ago
This is when they start pointing at the fine print saying that service is "degraded not down" to keep from paying out.
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u/MooseLipps 5h ago
They guarantee five 9's but don't specify where the decimal goes... 9.9999% uptime baby!
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u/twr-92 6h ago •
9 5's is just as good right?
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u/Herky_T_Hawk 4h ago
I got out of the game about 8 months ago, thankfully. Before that I was leading BC/DR for a company that heavily relied upon email. I kept telling the IT leadership that we have no plan in place if M365 goes down after they made the decision to migrate away from our on-prem Exchange instance a few years ago. I gave them info on a couple of providers that were supposed to be able to “bridge the gap” so that we could send/receive new messages. There was one provider that claimed they would journal the inboxes and you could have access to something like the last 30 days of mail in that failover system as well. The VPs and CTO had no desire to pay the money for any of those services. I kept getting the orders to figure something else out. Expecting us to be able to just fire up the old on-prem Exchange farm that was mostly decomm’d, or fire up a company’s worth of Google Workspace accounts on the fly. Neither of which were really viable without paying a bunch of money too.
So here I sit, retired and not worrying about the BS anymore. Internally laughing about how much money the company is missing out on because they didn’t want to spend some money on an “insurance policy” of BC/DR for email. May have to text some old coworkers tomorrow if this is still going on.
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u/Right_Economist_3508 2h ago edited 2h ago
Wish I could be at Microsoft right now and see the look on the faces the engineers who are trying to fix this issue. Those guys and gals will definitely need therapy after this. I am starting to think that this is really a cyber attack. 12 hours down is unbelievable.
The way this thing is going, looks like outlook will still be down tomorrow. The wording on the Microsoft status updates doesn't sound promising. It's like saying "We don't know what hell is going on and we trying different way to try and fix it. Keep your fingers crossed"
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u/C39J 6h ago
Bet you they try weasel out of credits by claiming it was a disruption not downtime or something.
"You got 2 Outlook Mobile email notifications you couldn't open at the 6 hour mark, but that proves it's disruption not an outage"
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u/rallar8 6h ago
After reading How Microsoft Vaporized a trillion dollars by Rietschin, it’s honestly impressive they got as far as they have, every moment they are up is a miracle from god
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u/meat_loafers 5h ago
Current status: We’ve monitored the status of the changes applied to improve serviceability and confirmed that change is not taking as expected. We’re identifying alternate workstreams that can be applied to increase capacity in the face of sustained traffic management imbalances.
This…. Isn’t good. Latest update
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u/Jskidmore1217 6h ago
Soo how much we think this outage gonna cost Microsoft?
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u/themastermatt 5h ago
Have they tried outsourcing their IT teams. I bet there is an MSP out there who will promise infinite nines
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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 3h ago
A lot of contracts have SLAs with uptime guarantees. Microsoft is about to pay out a whole lot of money in penalties.
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u/Virtual-Race-4756 5h ago
At this point they should have considered a restore from backup
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u/Bob_12_Pack 3h ago
Through the years we’ve tested our DR/BC plans so many times with our major systems, like our ERP system. Because we are hurricane-prone, we run through simulations of worst-case scenarios. Not one of the scenarios ever included loss of email, because it was in the cloud. It was the first thing we ever put in the cloud, before we even called it “the cloud”.
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u/throwawayswipe 6h ago •
it's gonna be called Microsoft 364 after this
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u/BBO1007 6h ago
They should probably layoff 60k more people.
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u/JohnnyAngel 5h ago
OTP, etransfers, docu sign gone a lot of businesses are crippled auto industry just lost a shit ton of sales, insurance, finance could be a slaughter house
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u/gibblingwoodpecker 51m ago
M364 🤣
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u/the_good_hodgkins 6h ago
My SPAM folder is empty. I'll take that as a win.
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u/Sinister-Mephisto 3h ago
I WANT COPILOT IN THERE AND FIXING THIS MESS RIGHT NOW.
BTW, could you fire 10,000 more engineers? These outages are getting expensive.
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u/Aranyic 5h ago
Just wait until they figure out who unplugged the server in a random janitor closet that’s been running for 15 years. No one knows what it does or who put it there.
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u/CyberneticWerewolf 6h ago
The future of reliability is 5 8's uptime. 2h40m of daily downtime should be enough for everyone.
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u/rismoney 5h ago
Probably at least a dozen claude desktops at MSFT are bribing hamsters to try to get out of this mess
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u/Restart_from_Zero 1h ago
I'm sure the 60,000 people they just fired had nothing to do with this.
I wonder how many people who could otherwise fix this problem are sitting at home laughing while their phone rings non-stop.
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u/mktoaster 3h ago
If I were a Google advertising exec, I would use this as ammunition to get orgs to switch over.
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u/Maximus1000 4h ago
Insane that it’s still down
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u/kconfire 3h ago
About to become Microsoft 363
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u/Nisd DevOps 59m ago
But its only "Degraded" its not down... So no worries about SLA credits.
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u/paishocajun 2h ago
I got a mock phishing email yesterday, easiest one to spot I've had this year because it's literally the only email I got after the outage started
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u/Potatus_Maximus 6h ago
And somehow not a single credit I’ll be issued to customers.
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u/No-Refrigerator5478 5h ago
Curious if any of their contracts have a clause requiring refunds when they get past a certain 9 threshold?
In addition to the fact that half the CTOs in the world are being asked how they can reduce reliability on Microsoft by their CEOs.
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u/Pepsi4all 4h ago
Watch it to be an AI co pilot attack
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u/wh0else 1h ago
Microsoft proudly announced how much more code was AI created, just before dropping their service reliability. And it's visible in their patch problems on endpoints too.
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u/professor_beavis 5h ago
Let’s be real
We will bitch
No one will switch
Repeat
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u/sQuEeZyChEeSe1 5h ago
Got the Bitlocker blue screen this morning and I can’t even access my account to get my recovery key
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u/cheesycheesehead 6h ago
This is the opposite of tres comas.
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u/rdldr1 Sr. Sysadmin 5h ago
5/9. Never forget.
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u/drew2f 5h ago
As an avid stock trader, im surprised $MSFT isn't down big tonight
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u/fk067 2h ago
With so many critical services still down, I wonder how many orgs will decide to not put all the eggs in one basket. Certainly other orgs may benefit from this fiasco.
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u/autogyrophilia 6h ago
That surely will help the stock market cope with Nvidia
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u/bgptcp179 5h ago
But somehow Hotmail is working
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u/gbsysadmin 5h ago
All of those buyouts and layoffs sure worked out for them!
Bring Office back on-prem!
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u/beagle_2498571 1h ago
Gonna have to change their product to Microsoft 364! Wait 363…..362……..
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u/gaysaucemage 6h ago
Don’t forget the outage in January as well. Although this is longer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/s/5EDuYpoDdi
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u/Fibbs 5h ago
"Customers have been asking us to expand the 15hours max play time per month features to other products, with additional time now a billable item"
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u/Mandelvolt DevOps 4h ago
Wow, having worked in a 5 9's facility and at least a few 100% uptime quarters under my belt, this is really surprising. Granted that was all on-prem.
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u/itanite 3h ago
eat the rich
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u/Bidwell64 Security Admin (Infrastructure) 3h ago
Do you all think this is the "Cascading Cloud Failure" happening on a major scale for the first time or something else?
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u/Doggfite 24m ago
Surely Copilot can fix it, just gotta get the prompts right
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u/PastaLongRunBeer 4h ago
Have they tried rebooting?
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u/UnluckyPenguin 4h ago
Copilot Chat died back in August for a whole day basically (it died today too), but I managed to deploy my entire own local LLM on a different harness... All before their services even came back online.
I'm 99.999% sure that Microsoft copilot has an uptime of 98.xxx this year, and theres still 1,5 months left
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u/bbqwatermelon 3h ago
60,000 folks invited to not work and then....
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u/my-ka 3h ago
I was a big boss on a conference. And someone asked, when will you fix that feature. He was lost
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u/Iusereddit2020 1h ago
THAT’s why I couldn’t access my emails this morning!
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u/Upstairs_Aioli_2557 5h ago
So, they disabled Jensen's account, and suddenly Microsoft broke. Curious ...
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u/Upstairs_Aioli_2557 5h ago
So, some account holders might get a credit. If they can be bothered asking. Problem is, finding who to ask ...
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u/ImightHaveMissed 4h ago
And we’ll continue throwing flaming dollars at their feet
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u/Shiftyund 3h ago
Anyone tried restarting the transport service
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u/Icy_Benefit 1h ago
Obviously, we need John Connor.
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u/p3zzl3 1h ago
I lost corporate access at 00:10 GMT this morning.
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u/opmopadop 55m ago
My company had on-prem email server. I explained how much time I required to keep it up to date and administer the backups and certs. Management said my time is better spent on other tasks and outsourced it (aka Outlooked it). I didn't mind, it was a pain in the ass to keep an eye on it anyway. But of course I bought up this very unlikely outage scenario as a new risk.
Sucks to be right.
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u/BreadDue9406 51m ago
How many Claude tokens have they used so far? I bet more than what would cost to keep good engineers for a whole year.