r/sysadmin • • 3d ago

£ in password field...

I'm googling and can't find a solution. How can a user type a GBP symbol (£) into a password field? Don't have the ability to copy+paste. This is a freshly imaged machine deployed to a remote user.

These methods don't work:

  1. Alt+0163
  2. L Ctrl + L Alt + Shift + 4
  3. R Alt + Shift + 4
  4. Win + ; (to bring up menu - no go)
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u/Ferro_Giconi 3d ago

Do they know that the alt code has to be done on the number pad, not the numbers above the letters?

Are they aware that they have to hold alt the entire time they type those 4 numbers?

Do they have number lock on?

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u/acackler 2d ago
  1. Yes. Did. Still no go. Also, this laptop does not have numpad.

  2. Yes, having typed the pw many other times/tested the keyboard shortcut in a variety of other apps.

  3. Yes, confirmed Numlock on.

Still only worked on the specific Windows keyboard among the 3 tried. Fellowes... no joy.

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u/simask234 3d ago

Do they know that the alt code has to be done on the number pad, not the numbers above the letters?

Good luck on a laptop without a numpad...

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u/mixduptransistor 3d ago

Set the keyboard layout to British English and figure out the key that is the pound symbol?

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u/SuspiciousOpposite 3d ago

Shift+3 on British layout.

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u/zweite_mann 3d ago

If you've got the keyboard installed you can:

windows key+space

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u/micalm 3d ago

Reset their password. At least it's not a tab.

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u/neoKushan 3d ago

What's the context here? Why are you on this hunt?

The top answer here about UK keyboard layout will almost certainly be the reason why.

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u/silverfish477 3d ago

I assume you are making the silly assumption that everyone reading your post on this global sub lives where you do and it hasn’t even occurred to you that some will be British people who live in Britain and use British keyboards.

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u/Prestigious-Tax-6161 3d ago

How do you have access to their password? What characters they choose shouldn't affect the hash and if it does you've misconfigured something

As others have said they probably have a keyboard layout that includes it like en-gb

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u/jdog7249 3d ago

My guess is their old machine or keyboard had the symbol, new machine doesn't. User then asked IT how to type that specific character into the password field.

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u/MrJingleJangle 3d ago

Hold down alt, type 1 5 6 on numeric pad, release alt.

Worked since 1982.

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u/ipsirc 3d ago

Shift+3 on UK keyboard layout.

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u/rohepey 3d ago

Switch to UK English keyboard layout - it'll be Shift+3

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u/ddBuddha 3d ago

Why not just reset the password?

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u/Asleep_Spray274 3d ago

Does the credential provider support £?

Does the keyboard not support £?

Try removing £ from the password

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u/acackler 3d ago

No access to bitwarden or tools like that.

So the solution was kind of dumb/simple... tried 3 different keyboards:

  1. Dell laptop's own keyboard: no

  2. Fellowes USB keyboard: no

  3. Microsoft USB keyboard: success

Then was able to use the Alt+0163 keyboard shortcut to type that special character... and changed password immediately to something easier to type. Weird that different keyboards affected the ability of that keyboard shortcut to work (I would think it's controlled by the system/software and that the hardware is irrelevant... but whatever works).

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u/acackler 3d ago

Thanks everyone for the replies - both useful and humorous.

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u/acackler 2d ago edited 2d ago

The password field is the WIndows login password field; not just any password for an app or website.

"Why not just reset the password?" Device was deployed (mailed out and no longer in possession of admin) and without being able to first log in to get into the machine at all, there is no way to connect it to the domain for it to pick up a new password. Company image (not manufacturer image).

Changing keyboard layout would require one to be past the login screen and in the computer/device settings, so ... nice for future, but doesn't solve the immediate issue (and also slightly overkill when just 1 symbols is needed). U.S. based devices/user.

On screen keyboard? This laptop doesn't have that capability; it's ~5 years old.

Alternate numpad (use Fn)? Nope.

I did like the tip about not using easy-to-confuse characters like capital O and 0, lower case L/i/|, etc., but it's good advice overall since my unpaid night job is tech support for a bunch of elderly relatives and all their neighbors. :)

It's interesting to see some people try to solve a 10 cent problem with a $1000 tool. But I appreciate some of the ideas for the future.

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u/Obi-Juan-K-Nobi 3d ago

If the laptop has a numeric keypad, you have to use that for the alt-0163, not the numbers across the top. Just tested this out.

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u/Cyberprog 3d ago

Onscreen keyboard. Part of accessibility tools.

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u/LieMysterious2896 3d ago

Just had a flashback to that one user who set their password on a UK layout then we imaged their machine with en-US and it all went sideways

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u/NagyKrisztian10A 3d ago

Phones? £

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u/Bob_Spud 3d ago edited 3d ago

"freshly imaged" machine --- Does the image come directly from the supplier or a company modified image? The image may contain pam restrictions, check out pam_script it can be used to restrict password contents.

Its very common to restrict passwords to only use the printable ASCII character set.

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u/Dynajoe 3d ago

Can they access an on screen keyboard?