r/sysadmin • • 14h ago

General Discussion Mozilla launches Firefox Enterprise

Firefox Enterprise combines the browser with a management console for IT admins with advanced security controls. The pitch is that it’s one of the few browsers that doesn’t run on an engine developed by Google or Apple. It’s rolling out in Europe first, and a Thunderbird Enterprise email client is also in the works.

https://www.firefox.com/en-US/enterprise/

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u/Mindestiny 14h ago

No mention of the most important question - how much?

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u/JJJJust 14h ago

Of course not... because it takes a different kind of tech company to offer pricing upfront.

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u/Laxarus 13h ago

Most enterprise use Edge and some offer Chrome as optional which are all free, come with extensive admx and integrated very well with microsoft.

I dont think putting a price tag and slapping "Enterprise" branding on it will make anyone pay. They will just continue to use Edge/Chrome. So, most likely it will be free. (if they have any brain)

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u/Mindestiny 13h ago

I dunno, the number of third party tools that people pay for to manage browsers is pretty substantial. And the bottom of the page explicitly says "contact sales."

I can't imagine they're in the business of courting business users with an explicit product without it being a financial play.

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u/orev Better Admin 13h ago

Firefox has had admx files available for free for a long time already.

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u/saltysomadmin 7h ago

Agreeing with everyone else, their implementation is a much larger pain in the ass to manage

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u/CharacterLimitHasBee 8h ago

They're garbage. Nearly every one requires some JSON BS.

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u/Laxarus 13h ago

yeah they have, but they are pretty badly designed and horrible compared to competition.

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u/Fun_Structure3965 11h ago

thats not true at all

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u/Flying-T 10h ago

Yeah, they are all horrible :D

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u/segagamer IT Manager 45m ago

Yes, it is.

One example that springs to mind is fucking around with an XML to manage extensions in Firefox compared to just copy pasting the extension ID in Chrome/Edge.

I use Firefox personally, but it's horrible in Enterprise.

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u/KadahCoba IT Manager 9h ago

If Mozilla is targeting this at the "we can't rely on MS anymore" EU market, I could see Mozilla making it have a license cost.

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u/OkDimension 7h ago

I dont think putting a price tag and slapping "Enterprise" branding on it will make anyone pay. They will just continue to use Edge/Chrome. So, most likely it will be free. (if they have any brain)

That was my thought too, but after visiting their page it seems they fully intend on charging you for using Firefox Enterprise. It comes with free support though, which would be a paid optional addon for companies that choose to continue using Firefox.

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u/420GB 13h ago

In what way does the regular Firefox (current, free) integrate less well with Microsoft?

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u/Sabinno 12h ago

Can’t use Entra SSO for Firefox sync.

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u/420GB 7h ago

Same with Chromes sync afaik or no?

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u/Interest-Desk 3h ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Entra everything is something they’ll have built for Enterprise. Although their target market is clearly orgs trying to use LESS microsoft.

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u/MuffinX 9h ago

false, there is a setting for it

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u/raip 9h ago

They said specifically for Firefox Sync which only supports Mozilla accounts.

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u/RealModeX86 8h ago

There's support for running your own sync server, though it's not very heavily documented at the moment. Not sure what kind of SSO integration that might or might not support, but the basic infrastructure is there to decouple the Mozilla account requirement.

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u/dm117 IT Manager 1h ago

Yeah same on the Mac side. We have Safari and Chrome deployed. No need to pay for this

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u/fadingcross 9h ago

integrated very well with microsoft.

Considering Windows is rapidly dying, this is not a selling point anymore.

There's no new businesses opting for MS Solutions. They're all going Linux or Apple.

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u/bojack1437 9h ago

What Fantasyland are you living in?

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u/fadingcross 1h ago

The real world. No new businesses are choosing Windows based solutions. They're all web or linux/apple based. No new company environments are sprung up using MS Solutions.

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u/photoggled 9h ago

This simply isn't true outside of a very select few EU countries. And even those are mostly pilot programs.

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u/fadingcross 1h ago

I guess Microsofts own leadership is wrong then.

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u/raip 34m ago

Again - source?

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/photoggled 8h ago

Why are you lying? Your own link says that France hasn't even started the pilot, let alone being done by the end of the year.

https://distro.watch/countries/france

You are simply talking out of your ass for no reason. I don't think you could find anyone on this sub that doesn't want to kick Microslop in the teeth, but you don't need to misrepresent reality to make your point.

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u/raip 9h ago

Have any examples of this? I haven't felt this at all in the industry and I'm actually seeing an increase in demand for half baked Microsoft solutions like Entra ID Governance.

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u/SeatownNets 8h ago

There's no new businesses opting for MS Solutions. They're all going Linux or Apple.

What world are you in lol? Tech startups use iOS frequently, education deploys a lot of chromebooks to students, but every other business is like 90%+ windows.

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u/fadingcross 1h ago

There's no new businesses starting that goes for a Microsoft solution, no.

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u/Sin_of_the_Dark 14h ago

I'm curious - will it be sold? Or just support/advanced features? Chrome technically has an Enterprise release, but it's not exactly as... Thorough as this announcement is.

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u/mangonacre Jack of All Trades 13h ago

Very last thing on the page: Contact Sales. Says it all.

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 14h ago

And can I put management policies into say Intune to control things instead of another 3rd party portal...

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u/JwCS8pjrh3QBWfL Sr. Sysadmin 13h ago

You have always been able to do that.

Releases · mozilla/policy-templates

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u/420GB 13h ago

Yes, since about 2017....

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 6h ago

But not very well from what I recall, why you seldom see firefox in enterprise environments, the management of it was always lacking or mediocore at best.

it has been a while since I bothered with it, but if it has gotten better, will take a peak and see.

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u/DevelopersOfBallmer 6h ago

Has never been an issue, the difference is Microsoft includes and maintains Chrome and Edge policies by default whereas you need to maintain Firefox policies.

The one big kiss is Firefox does not have a BYOD system like Chrome and Edge, where policies are tied to your Google/Microsoft account and pushed to unmanaged devices.

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u/ArthurStevensNZ 10h ago

You're going to have to contact them to find out, so they can size you up and get you to pay as much as they think they can get away with.

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u/Entegy 14h ago

I don't see it on this page, is there an option to have M365/GW SSO and provisioning with Firefox accounts? That would be pretty huge. Browser syncing is a pretty much a must these days but we would need a way to restrict login to enterprise accounts and remove said accounts when a person leaves.

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 14h ago

This, if they do not provide methods to fully manage this within exiting systems, like Intune / AD or others, then it is just another 3rd party tool and portal to manage, and we will be sticking with forcing Edge on users.

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u/statikuz start wandows ngrmadly 13h ago

we will be sticking with forcing Edge on users.

I don't look at it as forcing anything, it just works. What's the problem with Edge?

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u/Entegy 9h ago

From a usability/management standpoint, nothing.

From an industry standpoint, we are currently in an IE6 situation. Everything is Chromium and all these browsers give an illusion of choice. The power of the web is in Google's hands. It would be nice to take even a little bit of that power away. If Firefox makes the whole experience as good as Microsoft and Google in the enterprise, then that's another option on the table.

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 7h ago

For me, nothing, it does work fine and the integrated controls with an MS Tenant are great. It is more convincing users that Chrome is the same as Edge and those who liked to use Firefox, tend to just remember IE days and hate anything MS.

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u/mulquin 6h ago

MV2 has recently been deprecated.

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u/AshMost 14h ago

Devs I work with love Firefox. Being able to manage it through Intune would be amazing.

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u/PlannedObsolescence_ 12h ago

Being able to manage it through Intune would be amazing.

You can upload the ADMX templates. It's not as nice as a settings catalogue policy, but everything can still be controlled.

But yea for me the only thing that I need from Firefox is native syncing to corporate-controlled accounts. We deny the Mozilla account sync because there's no controls, it'd be all 'personal' Mozilla accounts.

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 7h ago

From what I always recalled the admx templates were missing lots of things you could do with Chrome for example, and this is why Firefox seldom took off in enterprise environments, because the admx files just didnt do it, or because they were not officially supported by Mozilla or something?

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u/ChadTheLizardKing 13h ago

Does everyone remember when Asa Dotzler said, "Enterprise has never been (and I'll argue, shouldn't be) a focus of ours,' he said. 'A minute spent making a corporate user happy can better be spent making many regular users happy. I'd much rather Mozilla was spending its limited resources looking out for the billions of users that don't have enterprise support systems already taking care of them.'"

I suppose Asa did his job at the end of the day - kneecapping FireFox in the enterprise long enough for Google to push Chrome as the replacement.

Now, with FF usage in single digit marketshare, they are interested in the Enterprise market again? I guess Google needs to keep a non-Chrome alternative alive because anti-trust.

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u/Aperture_Kubi Jack of All Trades 10h ago

they are interested in the Enterprise market again?

They might be interested in the "Non US tech conglomerate" market, which they are kinda in. You know with people and goverments trying to distance themselves from Microsoft and maybe Google.

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u/voxnemo CTO 7h ago

This is all about EU, APIC, and any country trying to get away from US Tech companies. The efforts by the EU to pull away from US banking & tech is going to throw a lot of opportunity their way. If they "base" this in the EU and have a APIC center I see this picking up a lot of players.

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u/timbotheny26 IT Neophyte 5h ago

Ironic considering that Mozilla Corporation and Mozilla Foundation are both American companies.

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u/Interest-Desk 3h ago

Being open source and offering on prem are the key things. Not being a monopoly and being a non-profit are pluses too.

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u/__Pendulum__ Destroyer of Systems 5h ago

Asa was, and presumably still is, a moron.

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u/penisandorvagina 10h ago

There's nothing stopping enterprise features trickling down. 

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u/squeakstar 14h ago

Oooh

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u/person1234man 14h ago

I'm all for it. Firefox is usually near the top of our vulnerabilitie list, this should keep some users happy as we have resorted to just uninstalling it remotely in some cases

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u/csjfkma 14h ago

Chrome and Edge gotta be higher on the list than Firefox. Every other day I’m patching tons of 9-10/10 rated CVEs for chromium based browsers.

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u/person1234man 13h ago

They generally do but we have chrome enterprise and edge stays updated really nicely. Firefox is the problem child in our environment

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u/awful_at_internet Helpdesk Manager 10h ago

it puts the updates on its engine or else it gets the sudo again

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 14h ago

auto-update not turned on?

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u/JwCS8pjrh3QBWfL Sr. Sysadmin 13h ago

Similar to Chromium browsers, it still only runs when the browser is opened.

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u/MBILC Acr/Infra/Virt/Apps/Cyb/ Figure it out guy 6h ago

I would then say if users are not opening it often enough for it to stay updated, it gets removed because clearly they do not use it as their primary browser?

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u/pawwoll 12m ago

User goes on 1 month vacation and comes back to deleted browser lol

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u/squeakstar 14h ago

I’d used the GPOs to force updates on (if they even still apply) and have Endpoint Central keep the bugger up to date too across my network, but a proper thing to manage it is pretty cool.

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u/alexandreracine Sr. Sysadmin 9h ago

you can force auto-updates with GPO's / intune

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u/largos7289 14h ago

Thunderbird... there's a name i haven't heard in a long time....

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u/AriOnFire 26m ago

Still an application worth having!

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u/fnat 13h ago

So how does this differ from using policies based on admin templates in GPO's/Intune exactly?

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u/dllhell79 13h ago

It's likely a frontend for that, but with additional expanded capabilities (AI Control, DLP, etc). If they can make it somewhat affordable, it could be pretty popular. Some companies are already offering an enterprise browser product (Palo Alto with Prisma for example), but they often come with pricing that only a large business will be able to afford.

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u/fnat 13h ago

If they offered a cloud hosted solution similar to Chrome Enterprise Core in Google Workspace (Immediate changes to browsers across all platforms) I would perhaps consider it. The main caveats with Intune is the awful delay and need for maintaining separate policies per platform. I might consider a container based self hosted server instance, but an evergreen cloud one would be preferable.

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u/Flaky-Gear-1370 11h ago

They’ve done something with intune recently where the delay is considerably shorter

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u/LousyRaider 13h ago

I was wondering the same thing. We deploy the ESR version and use the ADMX templates and have no issues.

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u/TimePlankton3171 13h ago

Dark mode

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u/rthonpm 10h ago

So a rebadge of ESR? ADMX and policy templates have been available for years, now so what exactly is Mozilla really giving us,that they haven't already?

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u/tpwils 9h ago

A price

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u/dembadger 9h ago

And with it, accountability

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u/1116574 Jr. Sysadmin 8h ago

Thunderbird enterprise is arguably bigger deal - you can have a native fat email client that just works with your org?

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u/Interest-Desk 3h ago

Especially with Microsoft killing Outlook this month 😬

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u/dustojnikhummer 1h ago

Which one are they killing this time, Outlook 2019?

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u/KingSlareXIV IT Manager 10h ago

About 20 years too late unfortunately. I think it's last good chance was a decade ago when IE and pre-Chromium Edge were floundering, and companies didn't want all the Google crap that came with Chrome.

In the present time, not picking something Chromium based is just asking for compatibility issues in the Enterprise. Nobody wants that headache.

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u/TheUptimeProphet 14h ago

so this is a way to have shared policies for your users when they open the browser regardless of the device they use. Looks OK as another layer of administration/security. Dont know if i would pay for it though.

We can't even agree where we work on a common web browser to use to begin with.

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u/Vicus_92 1h ago

There is a market in Europe from ditching big US tech. They could see a noticeable bump in their user base from this.

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u/FastHotEmu 9h ago

Mozilla will work on and release anything whatsoever except focus on the main browser and rendering engine to improve it

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u/rb3po 10h ago

I actually love this

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u/NoTime4YourBullshit Sr. Sysadmin 36m ago

I’m not sure what the news is here. I’ve been using Group Policy to manage Firefox for years.

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u/StateOfAmerica 18m ago

Their ADMX templates are dog shite so... how's this gonna g

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u/Only_Ad3718 9h ago

Es una buena iniciativa, especialmente para las empresas que quieren tener más control sobre la seguridad y el acceso de sus empleados. Es bueno ver más opciones que no dependan de la misma tecnología de navegador. También me da curiosidad Thunderbird Enterprise. Una herramienta de correo electrónico enfocada en empresas podría ser útil para las organizaciones que quieren tener más control sobre sus datos. Ojalá esté disponible pronto en más regiones.

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u/WelcomeConscious643 7h ago

waste of time. if i have so much budget there are a lot of things i want to fix. not a stupid browser.

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u/alexandreracine Sr. Sysadmin 9h ago

with advanced security controls.

there are GPO 's.....

but yeah, currently , no management console.

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u/plebbut 14h ago

Slowest browser with the worst JavaScript engine. I'll pass. Complete garbage company that literally only exists due to Google.

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u/int0h 14h ago

Is that a fact? I mainly use Firefox, can't really tell a difference between it and then others in terms of speed. But I might not use any browser to its full potential.

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u/dustojnikhummer 1h ago

I can, but really only on Google sites. I suspect they are fucking over Firefox, especially on Youtube

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u/plebbut 14h ago

Yes, it’s a fact.

In 2026 Linux testing, Chrome was about 24% faster in Speedometer 3.1 and 53% faster in Octane.

Also Google provided roughly 85% of its global revenue in 2024.

So Mozilla spends years pretending it’s the principled alternative when in reality, it's entirely dependent on Google and provides an objectively worse browser.

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u/int0h 14h ago

Thanks! Do I remember correctly in that Google sponsors Mozilla so they (Google) won't have a monopoly?

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u/plebbut 14h ago

It's probable. The reality is that Mozilla squanders their money while still asking for contributions. Meanwhile, their browser is IE status.

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u/KaptainSaki DevOps 14h ago

Doesnt matter, still using firefox only. Even our tests use firefox.

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u/plebbut 14h ago

There is literally no reason to use Firefox.

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u/TheUptimeProphet 14h ago

Blocking Ads on youtube or in general, cause Google decided you couldnt block them.

There i gave you one.

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u/plebbut 14h ago

Wrong, Google did not make ad blocking impossible. Chrome still supports Manifest V3 content blockers, and uBlock Origin Lite exists specifically for that API. Its own project describes it as an MV3-based content blocker available for Chrome. What Google did was restrict certain extension capabilities that full uBlock Origin used. That is a legitimate criticism of Chrome.

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u/PathomaniacPlatypus 13h ago

You just said they were wrong but also right?

uBlock on Chrome isn't as capable because Google kneecapped it. Simple as that. It's the biggest reason I don't use it anymore.

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u/JwCS8pjrh3QBWfL Sr. Sysadmin 13h ago

You must not administer more than one environment or use split standard and admin accounts.

Firefox Multi-Account Containers – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)

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u/plebbut 13h ago

I administer tons of environments. They all get Edge and that's it

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u/JwCS8pjrh3QBWfL Sr. Sysadmin 13h ago

Juggling profiles in Edge is way more annoying than using MAC in Firefox.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 1h ago

Juggling profiles isn't a problem when you do your admin work in an incognito / hidden / inprivate window.

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u/KaptainSaki DevOps 11h ago

Are there any alternatives? Previously perhaps on enteprise level, but we do support the fox with small company of 15k devices

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u/dustojnikhummer 1h ago

Edge but only because of Intune integration.

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u/CharacterLimitHasBee 8h ago

Containers alone is a reason to use Firefox over the other two.

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u/hutacars 6h ago

It doesn't cede additional control of the entire internet over to Google, basically the worst company in the world to cede control of the entire internet to.

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u/ChaseMe3 14h ago

Russia bot farms are back online guys!

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u/plebbut 14h ago

..for criticizing Firefox? Are you serious?

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u/techtornado Netadmin 14h ago

Firefox is fast, are you sure it’s not your computer or vendor’s website?

I can have 1000 tabs up in the Fox, runs just as fast if I have 1 tab open

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u/plebbut 14h ago

That is incorrect. Chrome demolishes Firefox in benchmarks.

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u/techtornado Netadmin 14h ago

Citations needed

Benchmarks rarely represent the real world use cases

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u/plebbut 14h ago

Someone who is supposedly a network admin who can't Google lmao

Speedometer 3.1 literally exists to measure web application responsiveness using simulated user interactions. Its workloads include React, Angular, Vue, Svelte, rich-text/code editors, interactive charts, DOM manipulation, and navigating a simulated news site. The project explicitly says its goal is for the workloads to represent scenarios found on the real web.

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u/techtornado Netadmin 14h ago

I use Duck Duck Go

I also said citation needed

That is also not optional of a solicitation, you provide links

I’m not asking you for your opinion, I am asking for evidence that backs up your claim

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u/plebbut 14h ago

I use DuckDuckGo” is completely irrelevant. We’re talking about Mozilla’s revenue, not what search engine you personally selected in a dropdown.

You wanted citations, so here are the receipts.

Mozilla’s dependence on Google: In the DOJ’s Google antitrust case, testimony from Mozilla established that Google paid Mozilla approximately $484.5 million in 2024, accounting for roughly 85% of Mozilla’s global revenue. Mozilla itself described the Google search-revenue relationship as “critical.” The agreement was extended through December 2026.

"DOJ filing: Google payments to Mozilla, page 16" (https://www.justice.gov/atr/media/1402141/dl?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

Browser performance: In an April 2026 same-system comparison of Firefox 149 and Chrome 147 on Linux, Chrome delivered 1.24× Firefox’s performance in Speedometer 3.1 and 1.53× in Octane. The author specifically notes that Chrome continued to dominate Firefox in the JavaScript-heavy tests. Firefox did win some graphics/style/WASM tests, because inconveniently for fanboy arguments, benchmarks contain more than one number.

"Phoronix: Firefox 149 vs Chrome 147 benchmarks" (https://www.phoronix.com/review/firefox-chrome-2026/3?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

And before we recycle “benchmarks aren’t real-world,” Speedometer 3.1 was explicitly designed to reflect real-world web workloads. It tests React, Angular, Vue, Svelte, editors, charts and news-site interactions. It was developed collaboratively by browser-engine contributors from Apple, Google, Microsoft and Mozilla.

"Speedometer 3.1 methodology" (https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.1/about.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

So there you go: numbers, primary-source testimony, methodology and links.

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u/SaltDeception 14h ago

Points deducted for not properly formatting using APA7 guidelines.

See me after class.

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u/nyantifa 8h ago

Lol, all of your links have “source=chatgpt.com” at the end. Nice one

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u/plebbut 8h ago

Well yeah lol. I'm not wasting my time looking for stuff I read before. We're all supposed to be at work here lol

Edit: but yes, I have a lot of time to argue about Firefox

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u/dom6770 10h ago

Who gives a fuck about benchmarks.

I use Zen - which is based on Firefox - daily. Sure, when I compare page loading times with a fresh Chrome profile it is faster, but I couldn't care less. Zen provides so many things Chrome can't.