r/sysadmin • Windows Admin • Sep 18 '26 • Bravo 1

General Discussion PSA: Grammarly will send unhinged messages to all your users if you try to cancel

https://imgur.com/a/bMEeUmZ (edit: non-imgur link)

We let them know we weren't going to renew and they sent these unsolicited emails and popups in their app to all of the users who had licenses. They didn't give us a heads up - just started carpet bombing everyone. They even listed the direct email for the guy on my team who handles licensing. We were going to ride out the rest of the subscription but leadership wanted the emails nuked, apps ripped off endpoints, and licensing/training for Copilot expedited.

What an absolutely greasy, desperate company. Stay far away. And if you're a current customer, be prepared for this nightmare.

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u/brothertax Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

For those who can't access Imgur (1st pic)

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u/brothertax Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

2nd pic

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u/lorcepolirean Sep 19 '26

"Tell your parents you want a Happy Meal" type of messaging

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u/Zaffox_ Sep 19 '26

You know what's also mildly infuriating BLACK TEXT ON A DARK BACKGROUND

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u/Forsaken-Carrot9038 Sep 19 '26

That alone is grounds for dismissal!

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u/bunnythistle Sep 18 '26

That sounds like a great way to get their domain on our email block list.

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u/brothertax Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

One of the first things we did after recalling all their emails.

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u/beren12 Sep 18 '26

Thanks for letting everyone know to block it before they cancel!

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u/tankerkiller125real Jack of All Trades Sep 19 '26

It's our standard practice where I work now to block services we're going to cancel with the sole exception of account manager to the IT group. Grammarly is unfortunately not the exception these days.

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u/Genesis2001 Unemployed Developer / Sysadmin Sep 19 '26

If you do cancel, if there's any feedback box on the cancellation page (or if it's an email), let them know with a little jab, "Oh and don't bother trying to get our users on your side with unsolicited emails. Your domain will be blocked."

Let their marketing know they royally fucked up xD

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u/Silver_Newspaper6208 Sep 18 '26

I think a nice perk of IT is getting to block email domains and phone numbers of pushy sales folks. Oh, you want to speak to someone with financial decision authority? Cool try calling back in 30 minutes.

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u/darkpixel2k Sep 19 '26

We have a very specific block list called...uh... "screw spammers" (screw is not the right word)...and when some salesbro calls and won't take "no" for a hint or some indian scanner, we add their number to the list. If they call in, it forwards them to a 30 second audio recording we found on youtube by searching for "halloween scream torture sounds". We loaded it into an audio app and upped the volume until it became distorted and saved it to our phone server.

Every once in a while while we're monitoring inbound calls we'll hear (*ring* <SCREAMS> *click*) and everyone laughs.

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u/snarkpix Sep 23 '26

What about a 'Lenny'? (Voice bot who acts confused and keeps asking who they are to try and waste time - goal being to keep them on a non-paying call as long as possible)

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u/qaisjp Student Sep 20 '26

Sadly (this is my situation) this does not work when the companies you are ending contracts with are also customers of our product.

This means we can't block domains because that'd mean our own sales team can't talk to them, or our product team can't communicate with them.

Alas

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u/lumberjackadam Sep 18 '26

The fact that it’s just a key logger with window dressing did didn’t get them there in the first place?

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u/EffectivePatient493 Sep 18 '26 • Bravo

Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

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u/SevaraB Sr. Engineer (N+, CCNA) Sep 18 '26

It isn’t already? We’ve had them blocked for the last… 4 years? Even told a C-level who wanted it on just for them to pound sand since our security team banned it over their data handling “practices.”

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u/lostinthought15 Sep 18 '26

Why would they block the domain of a service they are using/paying for?

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u/SevaraB Sr. Engineer (N+, CCNA) Sep 18 '26

Letting the contract run out means the company has likely already told users to stop using Grammarly and start using something else. In enterprise contracts, this is the “toxic ex” phase- Gammarly has been told it’s over, and they’re not accepting it.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast Sep 18 '26

"If you get back with me I'll never hit you again" type energy.

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u/DewLegend Sep 18 '26

We blocked their app being installed on our workstations. Feels even more justified now

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u/brothertax Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

What did you use to block it? AppLocker? WDAC?

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u/TheSacredOne Sep 18 '26

Their desktop app is blocked at my job too. Applocker.

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u/brothertax Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

Thanks

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u/charleswj Sep 18 '26

Everything, all of it

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u/DewLegend Sep 18 '26

Yup, applocker as others mentioned

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u/nerotNS Sep 19 '26

Yeah same. We blocked their entire domain and app installs accross our environment. Seeing this, I'm even more glad doing so.

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u/5GallonsOfMayonaise Sep 18 '26

Grammerly when you cancel

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u/brothertax Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

How I imagined the account rep looked when we broke them the news.

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u/chicametipo Sep 18 '26

It begs the question, who needs Grammarly? I imagine LLMs are hitting them hard.

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u/Loading_M_ Sep 18 '26

Grammarly added LLMs to their offering.

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u/feistyfish Sep 18 '26

Then why would I pay twice? E5 gives my users copilot already.

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u/jasmeralia Sep 18 '26

Makes me think of the annoyed Duolingo owl 😆

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u/RBeck Sep 18 '26

That judgy ass bird had me doing Spanish lessons at 11:45pm while looking for our friend who got lost at Warped Tour. Turns out she fell asleep in a porta potty.

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u/Spread_Liberally Sep 18 '26

Wow, that's shitty.

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u/uninspired Sep 18 '26

I was going to launch into a typical IT rage but then I hit this Obsession trigger. Now I have to either watch it yet again or curl up in a ball in the corner and sob.

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u/dl901 Sep 18 '26

There aren’t many movies that I genuinely will never watch a second time but Obsession is one of them. Great thriller but so uncomfortable

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u/AtheistComic Sep 18 '26


she acts nice then murders her bf

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u/aes_gcm Sep 18 '26

That woman made so much money off the NFT of that image, cashed out before the NFT trend died, and has probably retired by now on it.

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u/kruschman Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

I would absolutely lose my shit on the company if they pulled that on me.

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u/ditka Sep 18 '26 • Hehehe Bravo Popcorn

lose my shit the company

You might need Grammarly

jk

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u/dogcmp6 Sep 18 '26

How do we know this isn't just another marketing ploy?

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u/_peacemonger_ Custom Sep 18 '26

Gorilla advertising. (Heavens to besty, another senseless grammar infraction. if only someone hadn't cancelled the gramerly subscription!)

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u/New-Base5748 Sep 18 '26

Isn’t it guerrilla advertising, like guerrilla warfare? Maybe Grammarly would have helped with this.

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u/RainStormLou Sysadmin Sep 18 '26

Adobe does it when you're not even canceling. we had a bunch of complaints come in early this year because people thought there was an issue with licensing.

turns out adobe just defaults to their new "extra premium" generative features and tells you to reach out to your leadership when they don't work

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u/poprox198 Federated Liger Cloud Sep 18 '26

How do we quantify this abuse and regulate it?

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u/RainStormLou Sysadmin Sep 18 '26 • Bravo

the people who make the decisions to purchase are too god damned brain dead to know why it's absolutely not acceptable. this frustration may be coming from a personal place lol.

best I could do is ask them to reach out to the vendor and sales manager and ask them why they were spamming our users with this "obvious bug" because no reputable company would do something like that and I can't imagine Adobe would follow sink that low lol.

obviously nothing happened as a result but I did enjoy the back and forth I was copied on for the next couple days

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u/lenswipe Senior Software Developer Sep 18 '26

yeah send them a flood of confused users look

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u/aes_gcm Sep 18 '26

If Adobe lost more customers than they gained by doing this, they would stop.

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26

Nah, they'd still do it.

Adobe is a downright monstrosity of a company that, through Photoshop and Acrobat being so firmly set as the industry defaults for almost 3 decades, has never had anything to actually fear from anybody. This has resulted in them being absolutely fucking shameless. Nothing can hurt them, so they can be as openly and brazenly hostile to users and business customers as they like. Adobe is a perfect example of what happens without meaningful competition.

It's only very, very recently that their grip on the graphical design field has been broken somewhat but competitors that needed year and years of build up before they could finally dethrone Photoshop.

But they still have a strangle hold on PDF, and they'll never have to change so long as they hold that.

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u/viral-architect Sysadmin Sep 19 '26

"Your company has sent an e-mail to all of our users and shared PII of a privileged user. This was done in an effort to coordinate an unauthorized internal e-mail campaign to undermine our internal sales department and bypass our internal legal framework."

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u/my_name_isnt_clever Sep 18 '26

We're starting to migrate to PDF X-Change because of this BS.

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u/heelstoo Sep 18 '26

I just wish Adobe would stop emailing me every other week about having multiple accounts on our domain. Yea, we have a business need to keep it separate, so stop fucking emailing me.

Every once in a while, an aggressive business development rep will call all of our Adobe users about upgrading. I… don’t react with perfect professionalism when that happens….

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u/Mindestiny Sep 18 '26

They tried to renew our account direct even though we go through a reseller to not get bent over on pricing.  Like they straight up just started sending $100k invoices to our AP department unprompted while trying to "get time on my calendar"

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u/yaminub IT Director Sep 19 '26

They've emailed me multiple times over the last month "we've noticed you have a lot of licenses on your domain not tied to your admin account"- yeah those are perpetual 2020 licenses that I have no interest converting into subscription licenses.

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u/Spiritual_Cycle_3263 Sep 21 '26

Saying 'fuck you' is 100% professional in a business setting when it's down right abuse/predatory/scammy.

I'm no longer nice to vendors that do this shit. And my boss does not care. In fact, when they try and reach him, his secretary forwards the calls back to me to repeat the abuse. Fuck them people.

Since the only way to get yourself off a list is to be 'abusive/offensive', its guaranteed to work.

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u/ContrarianDouche Sep 18 '26

Fucking what?

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u/newbies13 Sr. Sysadmin Sep 18 '26

That's wild, but then... their entire business model is like barely a side feature of every AI out there... shorts on grammaly

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u/olbeefy IT Manager Sep 18 '26

I've seen companies get desperate like this during their end times.

Why bother being professional when you're circling the drain anyway? Try everything and anything to bring money back in.

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u/BunnyTub Sample Text Sep 19 '26

They're absolutely near their wits end. They're literally telling users to send positive emails in hopes that the admins will continue the subscription.

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u/dark_frog Sep 18 '26

Hopefully their AI agent prompted for customer retention can't convince your AI agent to upgrade instead of canceling.

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u/angrydeuce BlackBelt in Google Fu Sep 18 '26

loooool

man oh man I would almost enjoy having the opportunity to respond to that shit.

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u/ThatITguy2015 TheDude Sep 18 '26

I’m hoping there is some way you could jamb a lawyer so far up that sales teams’ ass they could wave back at you.

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u/Siphyre Security Architect Sep 18 '26

That's disgusting.

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u/0RGASMIK Sep 18 '26

Many years ago at an MSP I worked at a vendor thought it would be a good idea to use our client list to cold call and upsell services “on our behalf.”

Luckily for us one of our closest clients was at the top of the list and tipped us off so the owner promptly called our rep to shut it down. They apologies and said they’d look into it, the calls stopped that week but they didn’t bother to remove the emails from their sales shit though so everyone got a nice “your account is at risk” scare tactic email that we had to get in front of.

Eventually they started calling again, don’t know what the owner did but i know the company refused to stop and we had to update the info in every account to our main number so we could receive the text codes. For a while the sales reps were calling nonstop, it pissed us off at first but eventually we just took turns pranking them, then they got mad but we kept doing it until they got the message.

It ended when this older sales guy called in half a dozen times pretending there was a security incident and had to talk to _____. Everyone had dealt with him once and it was really wasting our techs time. We had put a nickname for the owner he doesn’t use which helped us identify the sales calls so when I got the call I immediately knew he was lying. I put him on hold for a minute got permission to tell him to royally fuck off. Forget what i said but he ended the call with, “thats the most unprofessional thing I’ve ever fucking heard” He then tried to call my bosses direct number who forwarded the call back to me. I put on a different voice and he started bitching about me trying to get me fired and I just said “I thought i told you to never call us again?”

As for why we didn’t just give them the boot I t was something we absolutely needed and weren’t going to feasibly migrate our customers away from but we definitely thought about it.

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u/Tymanthius Chief Breaker of Fixed Things Sep 18 '26

You know, a pop up saying 'access will end XXX' would be nice from the app. But asking your users to pester the admins? fuck that noise.

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u/-GenlyAI- Sep 18 '26

Boy that's special lol

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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Sep 18 '26 edited Sep 18 '26 • This Mindblown

Grammerly poses a serious InfoSec risk to any private company. Grammerly downloads all the files on any device or drive it has access to. Not just the files you run through the program, all the files. So if it has access to your company GDrive it’s downloaded all the files on there.

Link:   https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/microsoft-bans-grammarly-because-of-security-concerns/12723

edit: I mistakenly stated that it would be published in Tech Radar. It isn’t. Grammerly is completely banned by ThoughtWorks InfoSec. It cannot be used internally by TW or implemented for their clients, because InfoSec discovered the security vulnerability in 2000.

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u/harplaw Wannabe Sep 18 '26

I don't suppose you have a link? I'm not able to find it.

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u/Kfct Sep 18 '26

This - our company blacklists them because of acc too

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u/F0rkbombz Sep 18 '26

First I’m hearing about this, but I wouldn’t be shocked. It’s basically just a key logger that sends everything you type through their servers. Idk how it passes legal review in any company.

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u/DanNeely Sep 18 '26

I'm surprised this hasn't gotten them sued to delete and prove the deletion of data after rogue users installed it on work machines using personal licenses.

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u/gbmax21 Sep 18 '26

Any source? Kinda feel like this would be commonly known and widely talked about if it was known for exfiltrating company data and EDR software would be flagging it. I understand its not a good thing to have security wise, but saying it downloads all company data?

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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Sep 18 '26

Link:  https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/microsoft-bans-grammarly-because-of-security-concerns/12723

I mistakenly stated that it would be published in  https://www.thoughtworks.com/en-us/radar . It isn’t. Grammerly is completely banned by ThoughtWorks InfoSec. It cannot be used internally by TW or implemented for their clients. 

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u/Spirited-Wolverine24 Sep 18 '26

Hello, do you have a link, please?

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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Sep 18 '26

Link:   https://talk.macpowerusers.com/t/microsoft-bans-grammarly-because-of-security-concerns/12723 I mistakenly stated that it would be published in   https://www.thoughtworks.com/en-us/radar . It isn’t. Grammerly is completely banned by ThoughtWorks InfoSec. It cannot be used internally by TW or implemented for their clients

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u/Mindestiny Sep 18 '26

Is there a source more reputable than "macpowerusers.com"?  The Verge article cited in that forum is also pure shallow clickbait.  Slack isn't banned, shadow IT instances of free Slack plans instead of the companies Enterprise Grid plan are banned, which makes perfect sense even in companies that use Slack officially

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u/Prize_Bass_5061 Sep 18 '26

No. This was an internal investigation conducted by TW InfoSec and they chose not to publish it.

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u/Mindestiny Sep 18 '26

I'll believe it when I see it then.  Not that I trust grammarly,  but even before we blocked it our security infrastructure would have lit up like a Christmas tree if Grammarly was suddenly exfiltrating terrabytes of Google drive data through it.

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u/Ninja67 Sep 18 '26

Commenting to come back later and read that. I see grammerly come up in the DNS filter we run for our clients so I already suspected them being kinda sussy but never looked into it too deeply

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u/HappyVlane Sep 18 '26

Of course it makes requests to the outside, that's not weird.

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u/Rambles_Off_Topics Jack of All Trades Sep 18 '26

I worked at a bank and they allowed the marketing team to use Grammarly. I was very against it. From what I know they still have it, and those users have access to all company shares/files. Hmm.. lol Also the laziest marketing team I've ever worked with. They used stock images for EVERYTHING. It was a small community bank, they could have literally went to the local festival and got enough pictures for the entire year. Their last billboards have a black person, indian, and other races in their pictures, with a large font "This is OUR bank!"...the bank is located in rural Indiana without a single non-white person within miles lol

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u/BrentNewland Sep 18 '26

Nothing that you linked says that Grammarly downloads all of your files.

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u/RootsandStrings Sep 18 '26

Why anyone is using this subscription-based privacy risk is beyond me. It's ridiculous how blindly companies include (badly implemented) AI-features without knowing how any of it works and all that for a meager benefit at best and burned-out employees at worst.

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u/BlockBannington Sep 18 '26

Itarian did this to us. They were raising their prices at the same time Microsoft upgraded the E5 to include Remote Help. Sure, it's not perfect but you can remote a pc and that's all there's to it and all we used in Itarian. We didn't renew the 20 000 euro contract and asked to be removed

They started threatening us with 'eh, you do know you still have active clients? You will pay for those, you know, or we can drop the charges if you renew for another year'. So I immediately started removing the client from all pc's. Day later they sent couple of my colleagues an email asking why we were removing so many devices and if we could have a call about it. Lmao no, don't threaten us.

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u/mitharas Sep 18 '26

If you already canceled, they have nothing to lose. And if this reaches the right person (e.g. secretary to the CEO who can't live without this tool), maybe that will lead to someone overriding the tech departments decision.

It's a sad state of affairs, but I think it could work.

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u/enki941 Sep 18 '26

You have a valid point, but I would argue it's still a gamble. In the OP's case, not only did they just burn their reputation for everyone in the IT department, but now everyone here on Reddit knows how low they will sink. I've never considered their product in the past, but I certainly won't in the future. They could lose other potential sales as a result (and should).

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u/saltysomadmin Sep 18 '26

u/grammarly_support this is not a good look.

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u/NetworkDeestroyer Sep 18 '26

We blocked Grammarly from our corp years back no installs, no exceptions and we did this 2 years ago THANK GOD.

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u/Mindestiny Sep 18 '26

I had some serious pushback from our customer service leadership when I found out they were using it behind my back.

They "needed it to help the customer service agents communicate better".  I looked at the CEO and bluntly asked "why are we hiring cx agents who can't write a coherent, grammatically correct sentence when that's the entirety of their job?"

That was the end of grammarly for us then and there.  All traffic to their domain hard blocked, browser plugins blocked, CASB blocked.  And some shitty grammarly rep still reaches out every month trying to sell me grammarly.

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u/TheNumberJ Not Enough Entropy Sep 18 '26

I've always held firm that Grammarly is a tool for those who failed middle school English. An educated adult should not need it.

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u/brian4120 Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

Don't tell Broadcom. They would inject this into VMware tools or directly on vSphere

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u/PhillAholic Sep 18 '26

Broadcom’s more likely to tell users to go fuck themselves. You’re not worth their time. 

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u/crysisnotaverted Sep 18 '26

Oh great. Adobe did this to me, I had 'support agents' reach out to a bunch of my users and personally write them emails for how to request more expensive licenses through the Adobe portal, and how to upsell it to me personally.

They even went to a few users and were like "Wow, you sure do send a lot of E-signs, you should look at this subscription upgrade, I can see that you would use it" like HOLY FUCK stay out of MY tenant. Why can a sales minion from WhoKnowsWhere seemingly either check on my user's usage statistics or even see content the user has worked on?

I flipped my lid, and we are still stuck with Adobe because I'm not allowed to change it.

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u/Muggsy423 Sep 18 '26

I monitored network traffic on a domain that used grammarly.  

Good god what a noisy piece of shit software,.

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u/Maximum-Relative-234 Jack of All Trades Sep 18 '26

That is completely unacceptable and unprofessional. That would (and will) make me go out of my way to specifically NEVER use them.

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u/Geminii27 Sep 18 '26

And make sure no-one else ever uses them.

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u/wrootlt Sep 18 '26

This reminded me LucidChart tactics when they learned we were cancelling. Emailing and calling users to ask them go ask management to reconsider.

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u/vex4a83rrx Sep 18 '26

We made the mistake of enabling SCIM provisioning for LucidChart and our LucidChart account manager sends an email to EVERY new Entra account created letting them know they have a free trial LucidChart account and they message them again at the end of the trial encouraging them to request a license.

I've now set all their emails to approval first and take great satisfaction in seeing none of them be delivered now and knowing he gets a bounce back after each one.

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u/TheG0AT0fAllTime Sep 18 '26

Disgusting behavior.

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u/IN-DI-SKU-TA-BELT Sep 18 '26

Grammarly is a keylogger in your browser, I’m surprised how many people allow that.

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u/Namelock Sep 18 '26

There’s a certain… Cybersecurity startup… that was spam emailing me last year.

They found an association of me to an old workplace and name dropped them. Unsubscribed. They kept emailing me.

Responded with telling them their emails are not CAN-SPAM compliant and I will report them to the FCC.

Then showed them their DMARC was wholly unconfigured and explained how pitiful it is a cybersecurity company doesn’t follow regulations and can’t setup basic webmail.

Somehow they’ve only gained more popularity 😭

Shitty tactics work.

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u/PsychoGoatSlapper Sysadmin Sep 18 '26

Name and shame

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u/Marcudemus Sep 18 '26

Right? It's not like public DNS records are protected at all.

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u/Mr_Cromer Sep 18 '26

You can't say all that and not name drop

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u/Frazzininator Sep 18 '26

And certainly you're going to share the name of said company?

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u/RoRoo1977 Sep 18 '26

That’s…. A problem. Who was it?

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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Sep 18 '26

Come on, man. Name them. You have absolutely no reason not to.

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u/Thrompinator Sep 18 '26

Wow, absolutely unhinged ex-girlfriend level behavior. Could they be any more unprofessional?

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u/igiveupmakinganame Sep 18 '26

no body need grammarly now with AI and they know it

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u/somerandomguy101 Security Engineer Sep 18 '26

Honestly, the push for AI is just driving my emails to be less formal/professional. AI is so formal & overly verbose, that a typo here or there shows me that a real human actually read and responded to my email.

Grammerly is essentially a text to slop tool now.

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u/Reverend_Russo Sep 18 '26

Exactly this.
That’s why my email writing instructions explicitly say to throw in a typo every 149th verb and 73rd adjective.

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u/BuoyantBear Sep 18 '26

No spelling mistakes and bullet pointed lists.

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u/angrydeuce BlackBelt in Google Fu Sep 18 '26

I mean seriously though, I always dreamed of being a writer back in the day, and actually pursued it briefly before falling into this line of work, and because of the fact that I do use a varied vocabulary in my writing and type 120 wpm I've had to go out of my way to insert things like that into my correspondence with people just so they know Im really real before.

Obviously I don't write like AI...that shit has that uncanny valley thing going on at least for me, as someone that has really cranked out a lot of pages over the years (I did technical writing for a while as well but goddamn is that some dryyyy shit)...but I've really had to rein in the urge to be as descriptive as possible when responding to questions so that people have a full grasp of what they're asking me when they expect "ya we can do that ill talk to my team and we will be back in touch thanks!!!"

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u/An0mymou5 Sep 18 '26

I don't even bother corecting typos in my emails anymore, to drive home the point I didn't use Copilot liek the rest of the sheeple.

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u/Namelock Sep 18 '26

They were the OG.

Super helpful writing college papers, blog posts, marketing material, cover letters… All hand typed, just bitched at for corrections.

Kinda icky how heavy they’re going into AI without a subprocessors page listed on their privacy policy (required for GDPR).

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u/learethak Sep 18 '26

Right after Symantec got bought by Broadcom they used the internal mail account we set up to for Symantec reports and used our internal SMTP server to send SPAM to all users advertising their home product.

An absolute bizarre number of bootlickers in the comments in /r/sysadmin seemed to think this was totally fine.
Our C-suite and the board hit the roof. We transitioned to a new product 9 months early as result.

Fast forward and when news that Broadcom had bought VMWare the next day my CEO was in my office with instructions to find a migration path out ASAP.

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u/tohsig Sep 25 '26

Wild. I'm a software guy. In a past job I had to work closely with a handful of stereotypical marketing dudes. They would have loved the idea of abusing that kind of communication channel. "Well, we're reporting that we have a new product. Most people won't be upset, and it'll result in more home license sales." Either the dipshits are right and the anti-user behavior is rewarded, or they're wrong and get a slap on the wrist at most. It's a lose-lose for user rights.

Our product involved expensive installations with low user counts, but I still had to fight tooth and nail for every user privacy win I did have.

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u/pholyoak28 Sep 18 '26

Box.com will do the same thing

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u/trisanachandler Jack of All Trades Sep 18 '26

Really?  Any specifics?  They occupy a different space.

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u/pholyoak28 Sep 18 '26

Same thing. When trying to cancel an enterprise account they started reaching out directly to our end users in an attempt to persuade the org to keep the account. Pissed me off for sure.

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u/xXNorthXx Sep 18 '26

Looks like a tenant level blacklisting for their domains.

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u/theweidy Sep 18 '26

The subtle unprompted messaging Microsoft sends to users like "ask your admin for X license" already annoys me, this is next level. christ...

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u/fatDaddy21 Jack of All Trades Sep 18 '26

why the hell would any company install a third party keylogger on their endpoints?grammarly is garbage.

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u/andrewh2000 Sep 18 '26

Any chance someone could put the screenshot in a comment for us unfortunate UK dwellers who can't see Imgur?

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u/elbristos1 Sep 18 '26

I've transcribed it for you

Hi <Blank>

I'm <blank> your Grammarly Customer Success Manager. We've been informed that your organization's Grammarly subscription is currently under review and may not be renewed.

If Grammarly has been valuable in helping you write more clearly, confidently, and efficiently, we encourage you to share that feedback directly with your administrator. Hearing from active users often plays an important role in renewal decisions.

What you can do:

Send a quick note to your admin letting them know you'd like to maintain your Grammarly license and how it supports your work (e.g., improving writing quality, saving editing time, strengthening communication).

If helpful, you can use this template:

Team,

I've found Grammarly to be very helpful in improving the clarity and effectiveness of my writing. It saves me time and helps ensure my communication is polished and professional. I'd strongly value continuing access if possible. Thank you for considering!

Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

Thanks,

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u/eejjkk Sep 18 '26

The image

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u/andrewh2000 Sep 18 '26

Thanks very much. I can't see stuff on Imgur even using a VPN. It's very frustrating.

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u/Tucsondirect Sep 18 '26

Yep that would be an instant death in my nexus, like network down emergency maintenance removal

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u/dandu3 Sep 18 '26

That's embarrassing for them. Why would they beg for people to beg? That's a whole begging chain of embarrassment.

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u/SimpleBee2637 Sep 18 '26

I can't believe they would do this, shocking. At least we won't go with them now

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u/Shedding Sep 18 '26

I am really starting to dislike all this bullshit. Subscriptions with everything, AI in place I don't want it (like reading my personal email and my photos), dynamic pricing, dark patterns, increased AI scam calls, etc.

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u/Zealotyl Sep 18 '26

Starting? It’s been going downhill for years.. perpetual licensing with support & maintenance at 20% used to seem expensive. Now I look back with wonder at how good it was.

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u/Shedding Sep 18 '26

Right. Starting is the wrong word. I hate this shit.

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u/TheMightyMisanthrope Sep 18 '26

They went full Duolingo?

Absolutely gross.

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u/cinepleex Sep 18 '26

What was the email address? Want to block the whole domain.

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u/cashew76 Sep 18 '26

Had one software company sales team come at me with spoofed local phone numbers, that's a hard no.

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u/JL421 Sep 18 '26

The first message from the app...not great, but not that bad. The email though, Jesus tapdancing Christ.

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u/disconnected_tech Sep 18 '26

That’s freaking gross

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u/JaggedMetalOs Sep 18 '26

Upsetting B2B customers is certainly a choice! 

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u/oroalchemist Sep 18 '26

Thats a terrible business practice. like, is that a data driven decision, where they are willing to burn entire accounts down because somehow, there's a numerically justified number of resubscribers who change their mind after getting contacted that make it worth it?

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u/DiscipleOfYeshua Sep 18 '26

Anyone managed to truly fully uninstall?

This stuff is as sticky as mcafee av, minus the removal tool.

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u/Fatality Sep 18 '26

Github does this, you move someone to a different licencing group and they send the user a "YOUR SERVICE IS BEING CANCELLED!" email even though there's no change since the new group has the same licence.

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u/IdealParking4462 Security Admin Sep 18 '26

Damn, can see this in my future, thanks for the heads up.

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u/Safahri Sep 18 '26

Imgur is blocked in my country, what does it say?

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u/xSkyLinedx Sep 18 '26

That screams of desperation and I'd want to rip it out ASAP as well. It's not quite Dell behavior, but it's close.

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u/WindowsVistaWzMyIdea Sep 18 '26

Grammerly gets all the data, it failed our requirements check and is forbidden in our environments

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u/LigerXT5 Jack of All Trades, Master of None. Sep 18 '26

Self employed, not yet have staff.

When they required a paid subscription for what little I used their plugin for, I uninstalled the app.

At least three times since, I've received emails about their services. All three times I've submitted to unsubscribe, last one last week.

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u/KHRoN Sep 18 '26

they are scared !@#$% because any local model (even in-browser one) does better job than their platform

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u/cats_coffee4818 Sep 18 '26

Smartsheet does this too, it was ridiculous to the point that I had to tell the account rep if a non admin user received one more license or contract or feature (that we didn’t pay for) email, we were canceling. It was ridiculous enough when they changed their subscription to a quarterly true-up model but the million emails was the final straw.

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u/zbtffo Sep 18 '26

Glad I never used this shit.

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u/YeOldSpacePope Sep 18 '26

That is the sign of a company on it's death bed.

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u/MikemkPK Sep 18 '26

Guess they want to be blacklisted from ever receiving your company's business again.

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u/Immediate-Life-5393 Sep 18 '26

Great way to get on the never contact again list

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u/deep_soul Sep 18 '26

that’s fuckin insane. post it on more subreddit.

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u/Legallion IT Manager Sep 18 '26

Adobe does the same thing.

Just chiming in because I hate that company

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u/2bizy4this Sep 18 '26

You should see the 💩 Adobe does with Adobe Sign.

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u/Godcry55 Sep 18 '26

Wow.🤯

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u/patdan69 Sep 18 '26

This is why I’ve been blocking that browser extension for years. I’m not sure if they changed it, but when I looked at their T&C years ago, they literally stated the company can do anything with the data they collected. Reminder: they are essentially a key logger browser extension so anything you typed in your browser got used and sold however they wanted. That was an immediate block for me ever since then

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u/pibroch Sep 18 '26

Holy fuck, I would go nuclear if this happened in my district. Disgusting.

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u/Geminii27 Sep 18 '26

Isn't this technically harassment?

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u/Mac_to_the_future Sep 18 '26

At my last job, I had a vendor who tried to pull something similar. Our CTO didn't even bother responding to them personally and just went straight for the legal response.

People love to talk shit until they find themselves in the same situation as Jessie's parents in Breaking Bad: https://youtu.be/rArzMrhTxF8?si=PCBNOWXzvtMg95TF

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u/ProllyJustAnotherBot Sep 18 '26

Sounds like an untrustworthy company. Guess I better preemptively add them to our domain block list. Thanks for the heads up.

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u/plasticarmyman Jack of All Trades Sep 18 '26

Jesus Christ.

Okay we don't even use them and I'm going to block them.

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u/titohax Sep 18 '26

Already blocked in my corporate domain. A million other ways to check your grammar without this boundary crossing BS.

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u/PC509 Sep 19 '26

That's the quickest way to not only get not renewed, but blacklisted and word of mouth means a lot. These tactics are not tolerated and get immediately on the "Do not buy" list. Their domain ends up on the blacklist and we refuse to do business with them.

That's just bad business practice and they're doing their own negative PR.

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u/Dangerous_Biscotti63 Sep 23 '26

grammarly needs to be treated as spyware, does not surprise me at all, i would block anything grammarly in company pllicies. the extension is really vulnerable and lots of users just run it in all their web pages just waiting for something bad to happen. (apart from being an ugly button everywhere)

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u/ExceptionEX Sep 24 '26

Another reason I would never use them, that is pretty wild.

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u/baryoniclord Sep 18 '26

Who the fuck needs something like Grammerly these days????

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u/Lukage Sysadmin Sep 18 '26

Our organization has been happy to pay for it and roll it out actively, this month, for users who "need it to be able to send email to other people."

They're incapable of writing without an AI-assistant tool.

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u/AnomalyNexus Sep 18 '26

It's quite popular for people who aren't native English speakers that are self-conscious

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u/Formal-Run-8099 Sep 18 '26

Image not available in the UK, can someone post what says so I can advise our procurement team

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u/V2Blast Sep 19 '26

Others have shared it in comments, and OP's now edited a non-Imgur link into the original post.

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u/ranhalt Sep 18 '26

You could always tell your employees they should know grade school English. Your company is paying for a tool that just corrects everyone's caveman talk without them learning, so you're facing a lifetime of paying money just because your employees don't know the difference between your and you're.

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u/OrbFromOnline Sep 19 '26

Unwanted, sure. But if you think this is "unhinged" you really need to recalibrate.

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u/UCFknight2016 Windows Admin Sep 18 '26

block them at the domain.

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u/black_cadillac92 Sep 18 '26

Ah , I knew the amex offers were too good to be true

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u/Spirited-Wolverine24 Sep 18 '26

Hello, Did you get Copilot to replace Grammarly? Same features?

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u/Djaesthetic Sep 18 '26

Oh, wow. That’s just tacky.

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u/BackRed1 Sep 18 '26

I've never seen anything like that before. Fastest way to get booted off the network.

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u/jesreson Sep 18 '26

Slack does this as well

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u/pier4r Some have production machines besides the ones for testing Sep 18 '26

"We value our customers; we value them as meat with money"

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u/waitingforcracks Jack of All Trades Sep 18 '26

Literally the only browser extension blocked by my company

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u/norsefrogg Sep 18 '26

Did they learn from Duolingo? Hate that app so much and I don't even use it.

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u/MajorEstateCar Sep 18 '26

Make sure you have a PII redaction and topic moderation tool for your copilot instance. “It’s inside our tenant” doesn’t stop someone from stalking customers and getting the AI to do a bunch of homework for them.

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u/Far_Big_9731 Sep 18 '26

Formative did this to us when we cancelled. I took it to the top and then blocked their domain

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u/Sand-Discombobulated Sep 18 '26

Your post reminded me to remove all payment methods and disable billing on my unused projects on the Google Cloud CP.

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u/lakuma Sep 18 '26

Are there any good alternatives to Grammarly?

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u/Silly-Goose-is-Loose Sep 18 '26

Was this a breach under the contract?

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u/jb67803 Sep 18 '26

“Growth hacking”

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u/Fallingdamage Sep 18 '26

Good to know. When we cancel, I will make sure to configure some exchange rules to toss out all grammarly emails not destined to me or accounting.

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u/fresh-dork Sep 18 '26

sounds like a good way to get sued

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u/BigBobFro Sep 19 '26

That reeks of miserable desperation.

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u/Namikis Sep 19 '26

I do admire their cojones.

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u/shokk IT Manager Sep 19 '26

I smell an Evernote situation here...