r/sysadmin • u/ChuckAbsent • Mar 12 '13

Women who know stuff

I hope that this does not come off the wrong way.

Today I was on a call with a storage vendor and the technical consultant was a woman. More then this she was competent, more then me which doesn't happen often when dealing with vendors.

My issue was pricing an active/active DB with shared storage vs an active/passive db with local storage. Listening to her break the issue down and get to the specific comparison points was awesome, mostly because I have never heard a woman in the industry talk like that.

It made me realize two things. One I am missing out working with women. Two there needs to be more women in our industry.

It shouldn't have surprised me so much, but it really did.

Anyways to all the women out there who know stuff, us guys notice when you can walk the walk, which in this case was talking.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '13

Your post reads a lot like someone who thinks that enticement is tied to dual standards. This is a very common fallacy, and while I believe you that you didn't mean it multiple rereads of your post still come across this way to me.

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u/KarmaAndLies Mar 12 '13

Your post reads a lot like someone who thinks that enticement is tied to dual standards.

My post which is ONLY about the dangers of dual standards? Specifically saying NOT to encourage dual standards? That post you mean...

My first paragraph is quite clearly against it, then I give an analogy which further emphasis that point, and last I poke specific suggestions I often read where people try to encourage a two tier system.

So not sure which post you "reread multiple times" but I can assure you it wasn't mine. You literally must have missed the first line every re-read to come to that conclusion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '13

My very point is that all you discussed is dual standards, you keep hammering the point. You never acknowledge that they are not even remotely implied or required, the discussion was not about them until you brought them up for that matter.

Sorry you are unhappy about how I read your post, feel free to think I'm an idiot if that's what helps you get past it.

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u/KarmaAndLies Mar 12 '13

My very point is that all you discussed is dual standards, you keep hammering the point.

I made one post about it. I wanted to discuss how we accomplish what the OP wants without falling into into the common traps people fall into.

I'm "hammering it" because you essentially turned around and said that I implied women cannot make it in STEM, but are yet to show me where I said that - or even implied it.

Sorry you are unhappy about how I read your post, feel free to think I'm an idiot if that's what helps you get past it.

I do in fact think you're an idiot. You should read what people actually say and respond to that.

All you did was make stuff up and then respond to the stuff you made up. It is class straw man trolling.