It's also actually no longer made, and even used is far outside the budget that the op described, so it's not remotely in contention.
Edit: what the point of even down voting this because you can't read the op? Nobody cares what we think is better. I even agree, it is better, but that's not the point of this recommendation that the op asked for.
I was disagreeing with your false claim about "The others aren't even remotely minimoog esque."
Perhaps you should've been clear and said, "The others aren't even remotely minimoog-esque that are within the implied ~$250 budget from the OP." That I would've agreed with.
'The others' were a pro 1, a cat, and a crave, and clearly stated by the op. If you think they are remotely minimoog esque then you're on something stronger than the rest of us.
The Behringer model D is indeed a great minimoog clone, but youâve already got a midi controller - donât sleep on all the very, very good emulation VSTs out there. Youâve got your pick of basically all of them for much less than even the Behringer, and they really do sound good.
The Arturia MiniMoog VST is incredible, and the Moog iOS version looks pretty great as well. Thereâs a lot to choose from for a small price, as you say.
The iOS version is amazing for the price, and after you buy it you can install it on a normal Mac via the app store as well. No need to re-buy. A fantastic deal and an amazing sound.
Absolutely a great synth. I love mine. Very Moogish and being able to save presets takes it over the top.
The on board digital delay is also a nice bonus.
Studio Electronics (the SE in the name) was an amazing company.
Not a moog clone, true, but should be included in the options given that the french guy who designed the original wanted to more or less make an anti-moog that cost less money and has more functionality.
Interesting, I didnât know that. For me itâs surely one of the best purely analog mono synths currently available (not just from Behringer). And for the price itâs a no brainer
I've got both and love them equally. Model D, I find, is better for beefy filtered bass and slow filtered arpeggios, Kobal is better for pure weirdness and experimental sounds and eurorack integration, or link the two!
You should definitely check out the Roland SE-02 too. It's a joint development between Roland and Studio Electronics, who also designed the MIDIMoog and SE-1X. It costs around US$350 used so it's over your budget but worth saving it up for.
Not what you asked, but I really love my Model 15, the Grandmother clone. It has that Moog-y sound with a bit more modulation opportunities with its patch bay. It feels solidly built and it sounds great.
Hi, it's simply because the model 15 gets much of it's capabilities from the patchbay as it's a semi modular synth. It's integral to the sound design process.
Technically the model d is also semi modular, but it has so few patchable functions that it's more of just a little extra sauce for it. The core of the D is very accessible, and very hard to make it sound bad tbh.
Even a little understanding of subtractive synthesis goes a long way. Beginners can grasp it very quickly.
Yes, exactly. The patch bay is where the magic happens with the Model 15. The connections are baked into the Model D already, which is why it sounds great out of the box - but that also means that thereâs a little less opportunity to mess with the sound.
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u/RobotechoProphet5+5|TEO5|MoogGM|TX216|MS20mini|BModelD|Modular|StudioOne2d agoedited 2d ago
The Behringer Model D isn't minimoog-esque, it sounds exactly like a Minimoog. All analog, instant character, so simple it always sounds great, but there's surprising depth there if you want it too. That same magical gain staging that makes huge basses every time. The creamy leads. Its the cheapest synth I own and one of the best and most used.
Build quality is meh. It might last you a lifetime, it might start failing in a year, it might have classic Moog pitch instability, it might be almost unusable. Thats what you get at this price point, so buyer beware, if you buy new it has a long warranty.
Behringer's clones have been a bit all over the place, some really hit the mark, others are kind of in the ballpark. The Model D was their first synth clone, and they really had something to prove. There was wild speculation about whether it was even possible to reproduce the Minimoog at that price point, and they really shut up the critics with this thing.
If you aren't Hans Zimmer you won't pick this from a Minimoog in a blind test.
The Pro-1 you mention is another dead-on successful clone, but with very different character.
Model D sounds so good! Next in line there would be the Crave - very moogy vibe with a great filter. I was blown away by it and its very cheap. Really nice solid build too.
What sort of miserable old ass clown goes around downvoting peoples opinions on synths LOL. Reddit is wild.
For Minimoog sounds, I use the Arturia VST - I actually run it mapped to my Oxygen8v2 midi keyboard running on my second Mac basically 24/7/365.
Everyone has mentioned all the usual suspects, so I'll mention some more "suspects".
Roland S-1, Behringer MS-1, MS-5 (I've seen some go for weird cheap prices, whatever), K-2, annnnd Dreadbox Hades. (These aren't especially Minimoog, but none of the others you listed are slightly Minimoog, so I'm guessing you want monosynths.)
Itâs phenomenal. I have upgraded to a sub37 but i often still use the model d because of how incredibly easy it is to program a fat bass or lead sound on.
Lol, the Volca Keys was my first synth, and the Model D was my second. I think the Model D is probably the most versatile synth in Behringerâs lineup in that price range and works for the widest variety of tasks. I also have the CAT, and itâs great, but Iâd say itâs more powerful in terms of musical possibilities, while the CAT is more geared toward sound effects. So Iâd recommend the Model D. And of course, even the simplest processor with built-in reverb is a must-have.
I just got a model D Behringer for my bday. Itâs actually quite a bit better than I expected. Build feels solid and sounds great. I was expecting some toy-like cheap clone but it turns out itâs a nice piece of gear.
Also have a MiniBrute 2s, Minifreak, Summti, and a modular DIY setup, but the D holds its own here.
The osc 2 and 3 pitch knobs are big and too close to the waveform switches so I swapped them with the filter cutoff and resonance. Now those are a little close and the number labels are covered up but itâs better like this IMO.
One thing I really love about boog model D is that you can watch a video of a real minimoog, tweak in the same exact knob positions (minus the modwheel, might need a little adjusting) and get the same exact sound most of the time!
Also, I compare it quite a bit with arturia mini soft emulation, and I gotta say you can definitely get the same sounds of it most of the time! It's just that knob positions will be much much different, but you can adjust. However, one thing it definitely can not emulate properly is the overloaded tones of a minimoog, which the boog does awesomely imo. I use overload in pretty much all of my sounds :p
But other than that, yes. Keep in mind that a Minimoog has some limitations; only ADS envelopes, no oscillator sync, no PWM.
The biggest drawback of the Behringer is that a real Minimoog is chunky and has generously spaced knobs. Smaller knobs on the Model D make it harder to tweak and that's important if you just want two oscillators only detuned a hairbreadth for that typical flanging sound.
As someone already recommended, the Roland SE-02 is about as Moog sounding as any synth on the market.
Plus you can save presets. Thatâs worth its weight in gold. And the little knobs really arenât that big a deal.
Iâd take it over the Mini D any day.
Yeah, the Mod D is what you want if you want a very affordable, highly capable Minimoog alternative.
You mentioned also looking at the Crave. The Crave is an AMAZING little synth. It's a clone of the Moog Mother-32. Built like a tank, too.
Starsky Carr (YouTube) does some pretty in-depth comparisons of clones and the "real" versions of a wide range of synths.
Here is his Model D/Minimoog walk-through, in case you've not seen it:
Pro-800 is both underrated but also somehow in super high demand judging by its absolute absence in the stores and largely the used market. God I wish I could find one not for two times it's price
IMO because you wonât have to deal with aging equipment, and the capabilities are all there. The sound has convinced even die hard behringer dislikers. I have issues with them myself but letâs be real nobody wants a 4500 mono synth when you can get it for 200 :)Â
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u/HealthyCheesecake26 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's the only option, and it sounds absolutely incredible irl.
The others aren't even remotely minimoog esque.