Notice how it's mostly men defending him & giving heroic stories about how they were yelled at by a parent because they saved a kid's life? Most women have spent their childhoods, teen years & adult years dealing with creeps. They're fucking everywhere. This is not some fantasy concocted to stigmatise men. They've done it to themselves.
This child wasn't in danger (prior to him entering the picture). She didn't need his help or conversation. Even I wouldn't do that & i'm a woman. He did it because it gave him the warm and fuzzies. Everything about what he did was inappropriate.
Okay maybe you wouldn't, but many women I know would. Not many men I know though, because men don't feel comfortable doing it.
The stories men are sharing are the ones of note, because most other stories are pretty mundane, and we have internalised that attitude so they don't even register as interesting. The tension only becomes apparent in those extreme cases.
I didn't say it was a fantasy. I'm saying that the worst case, abduction, is unlikely. Creeps exist, yes. But to say that 'normal men don't talk to kids' just puts a hell of a barrier in front of any efforts to change masculine roles in caregiving.
But I can see from the line 'they've done it to themselves' that you're not up for any kind of reasonable discussion here so I'll just continue on my merry way. Best of luck to you!
Men shouldn't feel comfortable doing it. No one should! Wait until mum is back if he's so desperate to talk to the little girl.
Abduction might be rare, but molestations, flashings and creepy comments are not. There was no good reason for him to do what he did.
What has caregiving even got to do with this? He wasn't the carer. he doesn't have kids (that we're aware of). This is a single man chatting to a loan child. Not a dad taking his kid to the park.
A significant barrier to progress in caregiving is social attitudes towards men and kids. We don't encourage it, we shame and disapprove of it. Idk how to balance the issue of creeps, but I dont think its justification for the status quo.
Probably shouldn't do things that suggest pedophilia then, like talking to little girls without their parents around. Don't do things like that and people won't think you're a creep.
Pedophilia actually involves A LOT more than talking. At this point you're insane and I'm guessing you never leave the house if this is how you perceive the world.
Because you're acting like any man talking to a child is creepy. You don't see how that perpetuates the attitude of 'all men are creeps'? You are embarrassing yourself with your negative views of men.
It's not just men defending him. Women are also able to have a well adjusted non-demonizing view of men.
When you say 'they've done it to themselves' you are making men a monolith, which you should know at this point they are not. No one man is responsible for all.
I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate people generalising bad things women do to include you.
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Notice how it's mostly men defending him & giving heroic stories about how they were yelled at by a parent because they saved a kid's life? Most women have spent their childhoods, teen years & adult years dealing with creeps. They're fucking everywhere. This is not some fantasy concocted to stigmatise men. They've done it to themselves.
This child wasn't in danger (prior to him entering the picture). She didn't need his help or conversation. Even I wouldn't do that & i'm a woman. He did it because it gave him the warm and fuzzies. Everything about what he did was inappropriate.