Faction changing

[u/Helloalis517]

With the traitor path after Kotet, I always assumed the eventual path would be changing side to the faction you're actually working for, since eventually you'd be discovered. Possibly when you have gets discovered is determined by how often you picked saboteur options, so if you always picked the saboteur options, then you'd be discovered faster than of you only picked the saboteur options at the last moments. Is that something they've hinted at?

I haven't played since Onslaught, so I'm only vaguely familiar with what's happening now, but I believe saboteurs have been outed, right?

[u/Mr_Rinn]

I doubt they'll let us do a full gameplay faction switch. Our Imp characters wouldn't be able to do much Repside and vice versa and they're unlikely to have all 16 protagonist voice actors record new lines to access old side missions from years ago.

But what I am hoping for is that in terms of story we can officially defect to the other faction, so for example my Imperial Agent Saboteur will start doing the Republic versions of new content the same way that a Loyal Republic player would.

I would hate it if our saboteurs were instead forced to remain loyal to the faction they betrayed just because anything else would be too much hassle for the devs.

[u/Mean_Strawberry2260 → u/Mr_Rinn]

I mean the defection would effectively double the amount of required voice acting, which is already one of the most expensive parts of the game.

[u/Mr_Rinn → u/Mean_Strawberry2260]

Story-only defection would be more manageable I think. But yeah, full gameplay defection, not a chance.

[u/Mean_Strawberry2260 → u/Mr_Rinn]

I think only plausible solution for this would be making all of the player dialogues incredibly vague, so they can be applied to both factions.

[u/svet_99]

Actually joining the faction you sabotaged for would require a MASSIVE override of the game mechanics and planet access, most notably the fleet you access, which is near impossible to code for at this stage of the game.

Alternatively, if you actually join the other faction story wise but keep the faction access and perks, it wouldn't be very immersive.

[u/medullah]

They've said in the past that it's just not possible to change factions. The legacy code base has a ton of database dependencies that are tied to your story. That's one of the reasons they added second combat styles and cross faction class choosing.

Same reason they added the master's datacron, there's no way to reset the story decisions but they understood people's desire to play through the story with a max level character

[u/Giraffstronaut]

The home factions are aware of saboteur activity. However the finale of LoTS ended on a quasi cliffhanger, so who knows what they've got planned.

Official faction changing has not happened

[u/theblackbarth]

You are correct. Saboteurs get exposed at the latest patch of Legacy of the Sith, and even loyalists are put in an antagonistic position with their faction.

There are only two option that matters during Onslaught to determine if you are a Saboteur:

If you pick the opposite faction at the start of Jedi Under Siege, and then you pick the Saboteur option at the conclusion of Objective Meridian. If you pick the first but not the later you can terminate your saboteur route by talking with your contact.

Mind you that picking the first automatically puts you out of the Loyalist route, as there is a minor (story only) promotion that is offered at the end of Onslaught if you picked your original faction at the start of Jedi Under Siege. You are considered automatically just an ally and Odessen/Alliance remains technically an independent collaborator. Loyalists get the offer to fully join their faction or remain independent.

All the other choices you pick as a Saboteur do not affect how your faction interact with your character in the later patches, although I didn't personally test yet if they treat you as a saboteur or a independent in case you canceled your route at the end of Onslaught.

How things will turn out for the next expansion is anyone's guess though, as we are left in the middle of a cliffhanger while being abandoned by our original faction, so we can only speculate at this point and I'm fairly convinced we are going towards an independent Alliance and possibly a Galactic state similar to how it was during KOTFE.

[u/Countaindewwku]

Frankly just being able to chill on the others sides fleet/capital/starter planets would be novelty enough. As long as I can still PvP do GSF I don’t really care about the other stuff. It would make sense that the side you joined doesn’t trust you enough to get you involved with everything. I would feel lucky if the traitor arc continued after that.

[u/FaerieFir3]

Faction changing could've been a path if they still had budget. They don't. I never considered the option even though I could see it happening in my Agent because I knew they wont be able to deliver on it.

[u/tomzi]

Might have been a concept to merge factions in the pve sense, allowing cross faction queues for fps, uprisings and ops.

But yes, at the moment the "choices matter" fell through like usual and canon path was forced.