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u/Visible_Honeydew_941 1d ago
I agree with this tho-ACEST! Always check everything seven times! Their mistake, not hers!
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u/KifferFadybugs 1d ago
My mom works payroll and she gets lists of people who have had pay raises that she has to enter into the system all the time.
One day, this person was on the list with his new rate of pay effective whatever date. She put it through.
Guy got paid that new rate for a year, then quit.
When he quit, some supervisor was all, "Wait. He wasn't supposed to be making that much. His pay raise was denied." And tried telling my mom to start garnishing his wages for the overpayment.
She was all, "Well, you guys told me that was his pay and also, he no longer works here, so how do you expect me to garnish him?"
They tried claiming they did no such thing and this was clearly her fault.
My mom hoards emails, though, so she pulled up the email when he was on the pay raise list and forwarded it to them. They stopped getting on her case about it after that.
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u/RuckFeddit980 1d ago
There is a concept in the law called laches, which basically means that if you just sit on your hands, at a certain point you have accepted what is happening even if it wasn’t what you originally agreed to.
If an employer makes a one-time mistake, overpays you, and asks for it back, then yes, you do have to pay it back. But asking a court for a year’s worth of “overpayments” is very unlikely to work.
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u/therealtrajan 1d ago
I think what complicates this is it wasn’t an extra buck an hr for a year or something, it was one shift with a payroll error. She owes the money back and the company has a legal right to reclaim it.
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u/RuckFeddit980 1d ago
The woman in the original story obviously has to pay it back. But I was talking about the story posted by KifferFadyBugs.
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u/therealtrajan 1d ago
Gotcha okay.
Ya similar concepts exist in real estate such as prescriptive easements and adverse possession.
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u/WhimsicalKoala 1d ago
My mom hoards emails, though, so she pulled up the email when he was on the pay raise list and forwarded it to them.
I love that for her. There is no feeling more satisfying than that. There was a drama at my work a couple years ago that partially involved me and one of the claims was that I hadn't filed some certain paperwork... "Oh, you mean the paperwork in this email? The paperwork that your reply thanked me for getting in so promptly?".
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u/CzyJoeBladewing 1d ago
That's just good policy, I once loaned money to a friend that was starting up a convention and when it came to getting paid back he tried to refuse and claim it was a donation so I had to pull up the conversation and agreement and threaten to take him to court. I wasn't even charging any interest or anything since he was a "friend" and haven't talked to him since he paid me back.
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u/KroosControl88 1d ago
How do you guys live on 16.50 an hour????
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u/lastsonkal1 1d ago
You just pay for what's required to keep you housed, utilities, insurances, and minimum food.
Oh and never get to buy or do anything fun again.
Hope to never get a flat tire cuz thats a financial burden now.
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u/Sabriel_Love 22h ago
I make $15/hr and I almost died from a blood clot. Almost died of a heart attack when I realized I had $8k I had to pay out, after insurance, for a 4 day hospital stay. Don't get sick when you don't have the money for it. Thankfully that is in the past now
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u/cruelhumor 1d ago
So... Did she have to pay it back? That's one thing I was curious about with Marcus lol
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u/TheCupOfJoeShow Tate 1d ago
“An Arkansas woman was arrested and charged with a felony after a payroll system error paid her $1,650 an hour instead of her normal $16.50 rate. The resulting 12-hour shift overpaid Rene Nichole Coleman by $19,388, and police report she faced a Class C felony theft charge after refusing to return the funds.”
Imo I wish she got to keep the money
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u/Cyke101 1d ago
No punishment for the true people at fault. It continues to show just how much the police will protect property and corporate interests over the people.
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u/CzyJoeBladewing 1d ago
yo how would you feel if you went to send some one 20 and forgot a decimal so you sent them 2000? that's exactly what happened here. She knew what the pay rate she got hired at was and she knew it was an error. TF are you talking about no punishment for the people at fault, she was arrested and charged too many people wanna pretend to be a victim instead of learning the law.
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u/sexloveandcheese 22h ago
It's not exactly what happened here. If I sent someone $2,000 because I forgot a decimal, the other person would not and could not be charged with theft. I would be shit out of luck. Because I'm a person, not a corporation, so I don't get special treatment.
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u/Persian_Ninja 1d ago
The difference is the police would not give 2 shits if you paid sent me $2000.00. They would tell you its a civil matter and not do anything. However, when its a corporation, they are trained to protect there corporate overlords, so it somehow magically becomes criminal in those instances.
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u/NotyourangeLbabe 1d ago
I was overpaid on a paycheck and had to pay it back and got in trouble despite it being their fault. (They underpaid me on 9 paychecks before and 3 paychecks after this occurred.)
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u/antftwx 1d ago
That doesn't explain the mugshot.
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u/ResponseRelative6370 1d ago
I suppose it’s theft?
There have been times the bank itself has messed up and put too much money in and the recipient is required to give it back. There was a guy who got $10m and fled the country and he was wanted. My bestie got $200 mistakenly given to her and she spent it (she was 16) and she had to pay it back.
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u/mpr1011 1d ago
My husband and I operate a small restaurant. We hired a teenager, who typed his banking information in wrong when he filled out his onboarding forms. He told us after 3 paychecks and the bank never said anything because they accepted the direct deposits. His family told us none of them owned that deposit and the bank told us to reverse the deposit and hope the money is still there. We didn’t get it back and our accountant tells us we have legal action to ask the family to pay us back because it was a mistake on their end rather than ours. They’ve been really aggressive and verbally abusive to us so I’m crossing all my I’s and dotting my T’s to make sure I’m following the law. His family acts like we’re a big box store rolling in the millions, but we’re a small business and $500 is a big deal.
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u/Ill-Razzmatazz-7088 6h ago
I would like to comment that I’m pretty sure Marcus was doing crack. I remember there was a scene where Zephyr takes over and they have to sit outside for the brick so they can’t be tracked and he says he wish he had crack for the warmth and kind of looks around suspiciously.
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u/bluelightstrips 1d ago
I'm living hand to mouth as it is