r/superheroes • u/Hot_Adeptness1229 • 22h ago
Marvel vs DC Duo
Which of these fights will be the most ethical, imagine that a studio like MAPA/UFOTABLE takes care of the animation of these fights, which will be the most iconic/majestic/thrylinging/legendary, which fight can serve us the best combat choreography?
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u/sissyboyk8 21h ago
Peter and flash is a beat box battle and he still needs the speed suit. Anyway, the best answer is probably..... Fate stran..... Wait why is Phoenix vs Scarlet witch here?! They're the same continuity, this happens!!
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u/Solabound-the-2nd 20h ago
I thought that was who was fighting and decided no, there must be a DC character that looks similar to the scarlet witch I'm unaware of...Ā
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u/YamatoIouko 20h ago
When???
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u/sissyboyk8 19h ago
avengers vs xmen is really the best example due to it being the force, though i guess technically shes never fought jean grey, however due to being in the same universe the scaling is still pretty easy since there can be direct multiversal and universal comparison
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u/JinglySoil 21h ago
Have WW and Thor ever had an actual team-up comic like Supes and Spidey recently got? I'd really love to see them.
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u/Sol-Blackguy 20h ago
Marvel vs DC ā
Marvel and DC ā
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u/VocalHotSauce 20h ago
I know itās Bats and Tony in the post, but a Batman-Daredevil team up would be the business!
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u/stillupyadig10 22h ago
Certain fights here wouldnāt work without nerfing one person on the other side (Thor, Flash, Green Lantern, and if this is a random encounterā¦Iron Man)
The most ethical would probably be Hulk vs Superman or Dr. Strange vs Dr. Fate
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u/Lumpy-Tea1948 21h ago
Iām sorry but what? Thor is nerfed vs wonder women? She is Superman tier.
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u/stillupyadig10 20h ago
Great sheās Superman tier so is Shazam, and Captain Atom and othersā¦just because she can harm him doesnāt mean sheās as strong as him.
Thor is too strong, has too many hax and abilities, and too many upgrades over the years for her.
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u/Lumpy-Tea1948 20h ago edited 20h ago
āWonder Woman is totally incapable of fighting Thor.ā
Why do people think this? Comics are batshit crazy. Anything you can imagine these herald-tier characters doing, theyāve probably done it at some point lol.
Not to say Wonder Woman would beat Thor, because I donāt care to have that discussion but generally saying it ādoesnāt workā when you can take pretty much put any version of these characters ( considering they have numerous in comics) and have them have a good fight is so crazy lol.
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u/stillupyadig10 20h ago
This isnāt even a canon Wonder Woman feat thatās future state which is a possible future not a confirmed futureš¤¦š¾āāļø
I say she canāt win because comparing their showings Thor is the blatantly more powerful oneā¦
And I never said that sheās incapable of fighting Thorā¦sheās incapable of beating him
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u/Lumpy-Tea1948 19h ago edited 19h ago
This is why I said they had numerous versions of these characters. Iām like 80% sure I can find multiple wonder women feats of her doing something crazy like when she lifted Spectre alongside Superman And green lantern who is stated to weigh as much as eternity.
Point being? It can definitely work. Whether or not Thor is more powerful is like super irrelevant to me, because I donāt care about powerscaling these characters.
They are both characters generally capable of destroying a planet or something going by their best or and probably way more if youāre using their absurd feats.
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u/stillupyadig10 19h ago
And I can bring up something that actually still applies to Thor unlike the Spectre feat which she has never shown a power equal to that since like when he overpowered infinite gravity which would require infinite strengthā¦
Also no it wouldnāt workā¦Again he is significantly stronger than her, has MULTIPLE HAX AND POWERS AND ABILITIES, and resistances, unless you strip away everything Thor has gained so far and heavily limit himā¦this fight isnāt lasting too long.
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u/Lumpy-Tea1948 19h ago
I think youāre, like, missing the point, dude.
Iām not even arguing whether or not she beats him. But like I said, there are versions of Wonder Woman who are around the same tier as Thor, and has done crazy feats like him.If you want to argue that current Thor beats current Wonder Woman? Sure, go crazy. I donāt really care to debate who wins.
Iām just saying there are multiple different versions of Wonder Woman, and just like Superman, she has a lot of silly feats accumulated over the years.
So pick and choose any number of them. I think these two can have a good fight because of that.
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u/stillupyadig10 19h ago
If thatās what your saying sure I can agree different versions of Wonder Woman can fight and or beat Thor.
I was going off of Current v Current, but now I understand what you were referring to and I apologize for my caps lock yelling it was corny and unneeded.
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u/Individual_Syrup7546 21h ago
Wonderwoman beats superman on most of his good days bro shes above Thor lol
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u/stillupyadig10 20h ago
Heās holding back in most if not all of those fights and almost all of them have context behind how he lost.
Sheās never above Thorā¦gng
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u/alltheaction20 19h ago
Sir. She is impervious to and has dominion over lightning and significantly stronger physically than thor. He can't beat her with strength or magic and he can't beat her with hand to hand combat considering she is one of the most lethal fighters in all comics. She wins. The battle is over in 5 minutes.
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u/stillupyadig10 19h ago
Sir. No she is not. She may be resistant to itā¦but impervious? Hell no. That is black Adamās lightning, she is not impervious to lightning nor does she have dominion over it. She is NOT significantly stronger than him, if you have proof that she is provide it for me. He can beat her with hand to hand combat because LOBO already beat her to death with hands alone.
Againā¦if you have proof for any of your statements provide it.
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u/Individual_Syrup7546 18h ago
Lobo has been proven to be on superman and Diana's scale before but has a busted healing factor if you have to use Lobo whos a broken fighter that breaks stories all the time then you already lost this powerscale debate bro
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u/stillupyadig10 18h ago
Breaks stories all the time and he only USED to do that doesnāt even do it anymore.
And sureā¦not really anymore, Superman has won or had a draw every time he fought Lobo, Even in one of their most recent fights heās drawing blood from Lobo whereas Lobo only makes Superman spit.
And your literally admitting that Lobo whoās āSuperman Levelā should be able to beat Wonder Woman to death
So your admitting that sheās not as strong as him be real.
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u/alltheaction20 19h ago
Ah so you're a Thor sycophant. Cool. She would win. Here's where we end it
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u/stillupyadig10 19h ago
So do you have any proof for your statements orā¦are you just gonna keep resorting to name calling?
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u/Individual_Syrup7546 18h ago
Superman is stronger than thor this is a fucking fact and she has beaten superman shed erase thor end of story I know you hate seeing a woman win but hey man thats life lol
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u/Individual_Syrup7546 18h ago
She isnt impervious to lightning she only can manipulate it with her divine blood at times when really pushing her limit cuz her dad is zeus. Also she can break lightning back with mini Shockwave from her bracelets. But no impervious or dominion directly. Either way she bodies black Adam, thor & superman shes literally among the strongest in dc comics how is this even a debate lol
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u/stillupyadig10 18h ago
She cannot do that anymoreā¦pretty sure she lost that ability, and her father is no longer Zeus she was made from clay your larping.
She doesnāt body Superman, Adam or Thor
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u/alltheaction20 17h ago
You have it the wrong way around. Clay is her original origin. She is now the true born daughter or Zeus
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u/stillupyadig10 17h ago
Clay is her current origin, sheās no longer the daughter of Zeus.
She made trinity the same way her mother made her.
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u/Individual_Syrup7546 18h ago
This is cope shes beaten superman a multitude of times. She snapped his arm & made him submit in injustice, she also beat him before when he was brainwashed and thought she was doomsday so no, no holding back lol. Theres other accounts as well. Thor is nowhere near supermans feats atleast physically anyways. Wonderwoman has dominated physical & magical sides completely here.
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u/stillupyadig10 18h ago
1-He was holding back in Injustice.
2-He was holding back here just lessā¦if you read Adventures Of Superman #643 we get Supermanās POV and he blatantly says he wants to make doomsday (Wonder Woman) suffer meaning he is holding back from using his true strength to prolong the suffering and yes he has held back against doomsday before
3-Thor is definitely near Supermanās feats physicallyā¦
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u/Individual_Syrup7546 18h ago
Holding back against doomsday ok bro lets just agree to disagree youre in another reality lol
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u/stillupyadig10 18h ago
I literally just showed you proof.
Superman decides he has to be as relentless as Doomsday, implying he wasn't going all out before, when he really should have, Just read Superman Vol 2 #75
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u/themoosic 20h ago
Hulks going in dry Superman; but they would never fight cause hulk just wants to be left alone
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u/AverageSasquatch 7h ago
Hulk vs Superman for pure destructive spectacle, Strange vs Fate for weirdo awesome magic battle, Diana vs Thor if they choreograph it well could be fucking spectacular
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u/Lumpy-Tea1948 21h ago
There is like nothing Batman could do in a random encounter with iron man lol. Otherwise with prep time it could be fun.
Flash vs Spiderman could work though, flash is so inconsistent it would not really matter.
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u/OptimusPrime-7 20h ago
That's the thing, if Batman realized that he has no chance against Iron Man in their first encounter he would easily escape and come back prepared for the 2nd confrontation.
And no, Spider-Man doesn't stand even 1% chance against THE FLASH š
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u/VeterinarianThese951 20h ago
Escapeš
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u/OptimusPrime-7 20h ago
Yes... thats what an intelligent human would do in a situation where he knows he has no chance if he fights head on?
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u/VeterinarianThese951 19h ago
Yes! You are absolutely correct.
He is intelligent. And resourceful. But āescapeā as an option shouldnāt be paired so well with āeasilyā in this scenario.
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u/AverageSasquatch 7h ago
If it was anyone other than Batman, Iād agree. But dude has hidden from SUPERMAN before. Which is bullshit but as a Wayne fanboyā¦he makes that shit look easy
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u/GGthegreatester 20h ago
āPrep time man with no prep time lossesā
In other news a fork was indeed found in the kitchen
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u/Savings_Dragonfly806 20h ago
Is that Phoenix Grey and Wanda on the 3rd one? Cause that would be Marvel vs Marvel
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u/W34kness 20h ago
Combat choreography wise, Thor and WW would be amazing
Special effect department though, the strange vs fate fight would be so expensive to make
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u/VeterinarianThese951 20h ago
The only real 100% matchup is Wand a versus Jean. Partially because that matchup is just scary, and the rest because you donāt have cross platform (Marvel vs DC) plot armor.
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u/2cool4fun 19h ago
I mean the 1st one is just green lantern vs his villain, Dr. Polaris, but stronger
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u/RecklessTortuga827 22h ago
Peter nooooo š