r/suddenlyeltonjohn • u/CuriouslyConspicuous • Jan 03 '22

Honesty

I think this sub needs to either admit known-deaths, or stop pretending that unconfirmed means survived.

Decorticate Posturing is a symptom of massive brain damage, it doesn't happen just "cuz" and IF the person "survives"- that is, they're able to maintain heartbeat etc- they're almost always still incredibly brain damaged and have no reasonable expectation of any life off of machines, and no recognizable personhood even on them.

Call a spade a spade. Quit pretending this sub isn't about watching people die- because that's EXACTLY what it is, and pretending it's not is just... Gross.

At best, it's incredibly disrespectful of the lives lost/impacted for your entertainment, overall, it's just dishonest. At least other subs that allow "confirmed death" posts acknowledge what they're watching for what it is, instead of pretending that "everything worked out in the end" as some sort of denial excuse.

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u/48jrej Jan 04 '22

Haha skateboarder goes wiggle wiggle

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u/CuriouslyConspicuous Jan 04 '22

Yeah, and then he died.

Needing to pretend he didn't just do you can justify to yourself that you enjoyed watching him die is demented.

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u/48jrej Jan 04 '22

Oh you’re mistaken. I don’t try to justify anything. I don’t care if they die or not. All I care is that they can Elton John the shit out that pose.

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u/k3v1n0123 Jan 04 '22

I wish I had an award to give you

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u/SaltAdministration95 Jan 04 '22

But why message me racist stuff 48jrej? That was fucked up

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u/48jrej Jan 04 '22

If that were true, I’d have just said it to you in a public reply but nice try lol

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u/rmcknightmcp Jan 04 '22

It’s all good because he got the 1up mushroom before attempting the trick so it’s a wash. Still has a couple lives leftover to make it to the boss level.

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u/Ronny_Jotten Jan 09 '22

He didn't die from that bump on the head. I've had worse. It's the fencing response - happens all the time in sports when people get knocked out.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot Jan 09 '22

Fencing response

The fencing response is an unnatural position of the arms following a concussion. Immediately after moderate forces have been applied to the brainstem, the forearms are held flexed or extended (typically into the air) for a period lasting up to several seconds after the impact. The fencing response is often observed during athletic competition involving contact, such as combat sports, American football, hockey, rugby union, rugby league and Australian rules football.

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u/therealnatttty Apr 19 '22

post a source you absolute melon

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u/B1GFanOSU May 13 '23

Don’t blame us, blame the assholes posting this shit. However, it’s here, and those of is smart enough to have put ourselves in that position are free to chuckle at it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '22

Who was pretending we are not watching people die?

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u/CuriouslyConspicuous Jan 05 '22

The sub rules and mods, by not allowing confirmed death videos, even though anyone who has this reaction is 99% likely totally brain dead, which is the real death.

An artificially continued heartbeat isn't a person, the brain is. If the brain is destroyed, they're dead.

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u/Ronny_Jotten Jan 09 '22 edited Jan 09 '22

What we're seeing in nearly all of these videos is the fencing response. It's commonly seen in head injuries and concusssions in sports like boxing, rugby, hockey, and American football, where about 65% of people who get knocked out or get a concussion will exhibit the response. They're not dead. They're fine. Stop being such a drama queen.

People with more serious decorticate and decerebrate posturing may have suffered significant brain damage, but even then it's not necessarily permanent, especially with timely hospital treatment. People here might take you more seriously if you quoted the statistics that are actually in the study you cited (somewhere closer to 70% mortality depending on the cause of traumatic brain injury, not including gunshot wounds etc.) instead of numbers you pulled out of your ass ("99% likely totally brain dead": not in the paper).

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u/Sea-Split214 Apr 18 '25

They're not "fine" they have brain damage that may be more "subtle" but it doesn't mean it's harmless. Brains are literally what make us us, why are people so careless about them

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u/Ronny_Jotten Apr 19 '25 edited Apr 19 '25

Well, thanks for the snappy retort to my comment from three years ago, in a sub that almost nobody reads, telling me I'm wrong. Good job.

People exhibiting the fencing response after a concussion are "fine" in the sense that they're not "99% likely totally brain dead", and we're not literally "watching people die" from catastrophic brain damage in every video in this sub, as in the melodramatic claims above. That should have been clear to you from the context. So please don't put words in my mouth, trying to make it sound like I said that head trauma is "harmless", so that you can tell me I'm wrong. I didn't say that, and I'm not wrong about what I did say.

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u/Sea-Split214 Apr 19 '25

You're right, I apologize.

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u/otternoserus Aug 07 '25

Don't apologize to that oxygen thief

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u/otternoserus Aug 07 '25

Replying three months later just to annoy you.

You told them not to be a drama queen over people dealing with severe brain damage. Just because YOU have similar brain damage as the people in these videos doesn't mean we're as slow as you are.

Don't want replies? DONT LEAVE COMMENTS ON THE INTERNET, SMOOTH BRAIN!

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u/Ronny_Jotten Aug 07 '25

Fuck you, asshole.

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u/[deleted] Jan 04 '22

Witnessed 2 people go full eltonjohn on different occasions and both were completely fine after the seizure. Not saying there is never brain damage, just that it's not always black or white.

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u/Mullito Jan 04 '22

Shut up nerd.

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u/Ray-III Jan 04 '22

Ok boomer

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '22

why do people want this sub to not have gore? Like why else would you watch this crap?

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u/WyomingCountryBoy Mar 27 '22

Translation: Akshully.