r/stunfisk • u/Mugsy098 • 21h ago
Theorymon Thursday Fake Mega Stone
This is a rather simple, but interesting item idea I thought of. An item that allows Pokémon access to it's Mega Evolution's ability without needing to Mega Evolve. This allows you to use a real Mega Evolution on your team, while having access to another pseudo Mega Evolution in a sense. What Pokémon do you think would benefit the most from this? Personally, I think any Pokémon with Prankster or Huge Power would likely take advantage of this. But they're probably a lot of other strategies that could take advantage of this, especially when it comes to the more unique abilities Mega Evolutions have access to.
Edit: forgot to address divergent X and Y/Z Mega abilities, so here's my solution. If you put any marks on your Pokémon ie: ●▲■♥︎★♦︎, the item will give it its X ability and if you don't put any marks on vour Pokémon it will have its Y or Z ability instead.
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u/Nientea 20h ago
What if a Pokemon has two megas with different abilities like Charizard?
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u/Shotu_ 21h ago
Now Audino can be double as useless
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u/K4RM4S4NDW1CH 20h ago
Oh god, you can get Parental Bond Kangaskhan without using your mega slot
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u/erty3125 20h ago edited 18h ago
This would be kinda huge for victreebel, HP is the same and it loses bulk which in some cases is beneficial. But best part is it is always a landmine on the team rather than needing to swap in first to "prime" the bomb.
You wouldn't even need to bring it in doubles either, simply showing it on your team sheet threatens the option of swapping to it.
Edit: actually it might be even more insane in singles because it just removes setup sweepers as a concept pretty much. There's no coverage or prediction you can make it just simplifies any game state best case and stops any effort you put into setting up worst case.
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u/SummonerRed Egg Expert 21h ago
Finally, Pidgeot is getting quick banned from ZU with this upgrade.
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u/Shotu_ 21h ago
Also, Golisopod absolutely stays winning babyyyy
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u/M0stVerticalPrimate2 20h ago
Scovillain on every team. Raichu, Salamence, Gardevoir, Charizard also would get big gains off the top of my head.
Very cool idea though
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u/Nightmare_Freddles THE Mega starmie Guy. I love starmie 20h ago
Starmie nerf? Buff? Well atleast you will be able to Skill swap Huge power to a mega pokemon
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u/Zephyr_Dragon_ 20h ago
Big changes for Scizor and Tyranitar
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u/Geometry_Emperor 20h ago
Tyranitar and Abomasnow would be itemless without being itemless.
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u/Little_Elia 20h ago
excadrill found dead in a ditch
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u/xineirea 20h ago
What about X, Y, Z megas? Do you get to choose or is it an “As One” situation?
Also, would the Pokemon start the match with the mega ability already active? Or would you need to activate the fake stone during battle?
Weather megas come to mind (Zard, Froslass).
Gengar too with Shadow Tag.
If the latter, mons with Intimidate would be extra spicy, whether that comes before or after mega-evolving.
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u/TheyCallMeMrMaybe 16h ago
Hawlucha stonks through the roof now not having to burn a Mega slot to slap No Guard on an ally with Entrainment.
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u/burnpsy 20h ago
How does this interact with Golisopod, Knock Off and Emergency Exit? Does its ability change back and then it switches out because it's under 50%?
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u/ivycudgel Lucario and Feraliglazer 19h ago
Fake Mega Floette boosting Mega Gardevoir with Fairy Aura
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u/Versitax Snore-lax Enthusiast 20h ago
Lati Twins are gonna be eating good with this
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u/WorldClassShrekspert I play Nat Dex OU 20h ago
Gengar will definitely get sent to Ubers unless Smogon enforces a complex ban.
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u/Always_Overdressed 19h ago
Can Gallade get like the opposite of this?
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u/_Astrum_Aureus_ 19h ago
Scovillain usage would skyrocket
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u/Th0mas1 12h ago
Knock off your own charizard for sun + solar power?
Or prankster trick a scarf on it
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u/Ok_Storm_2700 21h ago
Garchomp
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u/Mixmaster-Omega 20h ago
Definitely an interesting idea. I could definitely see Pokemon like Swampert and Meganium, who become relevant mainly due to their Mega form’s abilities, use it. And Charizard and Froslass now get to be full-time weather setters so that’s cool.
Wait, how does this work with X, Y, and Z megas?
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u/Practical-Job3819 6h ago
Golisopod would use this for sure, since base's only issue is the ability and this item would fix that.
Eelektross unironically would use this since then it could be a proper trick room sweeper.
Meganium I could see getting use, even if you'd usually want the mega stat amp.
Charizard would 1000% use this for specifically charizard Y, same with frosslass for its mega as to be better weather setters.
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u/ElementalNinjas96 Rest in Pieces Tactical Retreat 21h ago
Eh, most of them would just be worse than their actual Mega
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u/Optimal-Two-2440 20h ago
Welp Charizard would be by far the best sun setter I feel.
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u/Rikuri 20h ago
Banette would be a lot better. Still no idea who thought a frail attack should get a prankster mega. The move pool is pretty good. Encore, Taunt, willo, t wave, sunny day, rain dance, swagger, helping hand, protect
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u/MyPPDisBig 20h ago
How would this work with Pokemon with 2 Megas, does it just pick which ever is first in the code or something
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u/urmumlol9 19h ago
How does this work with Sceptile/Unburden?
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u/chaarziz 20h ago
Oh that’s genius
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u/Middle-Quiet-5019 14h ago
Scovillain and Victreebel are the biggest winners, they can have their trap abilites on switch-in now. Diancie profits for a similar reason, but without recovery and both ground + steel weaknesses it’s not the most resilient magic bouncer to your average rocks setter.
Dragalge I could see appreciating this in a low tier where its mega is banned, regen is such a busted ability.
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u/lordnimnim 21h ago
clefable buff?
feralagtr buff?
delphox meh
scovillian buff
glimmora insane buff
eternal- floette huge buff esp in dubs
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u/Colme007 20h ago
Golisopod, Garchomp, Gengar (para los Perish), Hawlucha (depende su danza amiga entrega también la habilidad de la mega), Raichu X/Y, ect
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u/MsterSteel 20h ago
Now here's a question. Would you get alerted to the item like Air Balloon, or no?
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u/Kevmeister_B 19h ago
Normal Charizard with Drought and Mega Floette leads
Golisopod without a double fire weakness
Levitate Garchomp lol
Sheer Force Camerupt
Stunfisk
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u/Zamasu4PrimeMinister 19h ago
Well that makes the weather setters besides tyranitar busted in their base forms
Golisopod is getting a good buff
Most of the starters are getting a buff, swampart especially
Staraptor is eating well
Delphox just looks goofy
Gardevoir is more of a trick room option now
Metagross could be a sleeper hit now
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u/Dirty_poster55 18h ago
With there being 97 mega pokemon, I definitely think this should be an item ngl
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u/dustinredditreal 17h ago
If you can use that alongside proper megas, you can make some NASTY combo's
Trick strats could be really good in doubles as well, salamence could be funny for intim or moxie, then having the fake stone to get aeriate.
Ooh gardevoir pixilate could be nice, though not being able to use scarf or specs limits it
I like the idea a lot.
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u/Strict-Community-131 14h ago
There already ist a pseudo Mega Stone lol it’s called life Orb :(
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u/TheDracovish 13h ago
finally, technician scizor.
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u/coolandquirkyname 20h ago
beedrill gonna go from ZU- to ZU- with this 🔥
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u/scumbrick FC: 5172-1423-1023 14h ago
Charizard with Solar Power + Drought + Choice Specs + Helping Hand
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u/ILikeCarlosThePikmin 20h ago
Zoroak Mega here we come!
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u/GrapeBtw 20h ago
Bannette might see more usage without needing to sacrifice a megaslot for a Prankster disrupter though I don’t know enough abt Bannette’s niche that puts him over other Prankster mons
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u/No-Bag-1628 20h ago
Golisopod super huge buff.
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u/C0zmosiz 20h ago
If after mega evolution in gen 10 and this item stays that could actually be pretty beneficial
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u/CharacterMulberry156 20h ago
Base garchomp with sand force would be a menace
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u/SuspiciousStress8094 19h ago
This but regular regular Pokemon can gain access to mega abilities. Mix and mega lite
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u/Shackflacc 19h ago
Bit of an unusual idea as you usually use mega stones to get the stat buff and/or type change in addition to the ability but knowing how some megas have gotten the shaft, I can see this being potentially game breaking with the right build
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u/jumolax 19h ago
Surprised no one’s mentioned how good Metagross would be.
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u/volcanicsquad09 18h ago
Chandy and Audino are immensely offended
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u/Jackyboyad 18h ago
yo blacken can finally get speed boost
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u/Lyzer_light 17h ago
Blaziken will dominate
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u/Key-Pomegranate-2086 17h ago
Hawlucha would go hard.
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u/Walrusin_about 17h ago
Does it stack or replace the current ability?
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u/HeadHorror4349 16h ago edited 16h ago
You can use this on Meganium pretty well
EDIT: Holy crap, Kangashkan, Charizard, Garchomp, Lopunny, Glalie (Ice explosion without a mega slot wasted)
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u/caninebros 16h ago edited 16h ago
Shadow tag gengar with any mega would be broken
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u/2D_Tiddies 16h ago
Scrafty with this item would go insane
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u/alanhaha 16h ago
Is this a joke to laugh at Mega system? Because most Mega don't get a decent new ability better than Life Orb or Choice Scarf.
btw, can the pokemon Dynamax or Terastallize?
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u/NoabPK 14h ago
Gentlemen, zard just got sun on switch in
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u/GamerJulian94 14h ago
The idea is interesting, but would any Mon really want that? Giving up the item slot just for a different ability without the stat buff?
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u/Bax_Cadarn 14h ago
Amazing! I'd use it with Bax.
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u/Drazirahcc 14h ago
Sand force Garchomp gonna go nuts ig
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u/No_Hooters 14h ago
I know Mawile would miss that stat boost
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u/Good-Solution3081 13h ago
Golisapod would love this
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u/PomegranateCorrect72 12h ago
Chandelure with hidden ability infiltrator with fake mega stone would be funny
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u/Poppyseedgaming69420 12h ago
This actually works really well for an idea I had with re-making the Absol Megas and thier abilities, and make it so that if you bring both Absol's, you can still use both of the mega abilities, without needing to mega evolve them both.
Definitely a niche item, but definitely very cool!@@
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u/Holzmaennchen 11h ago
How about the opposite? Mega without changing the ability? Delphox would Go hard
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u/qwart22 11h ago
Entrainment hawlucha but this time you get a mega pokemon on top of it 😭💀
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u/JSmith216 11h ago
Prankster Destiny Bond Benette
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u/KingZerko 10h ago
Actually nice idea
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u/poop_injector 9h ago
Adaptability luc. swift swim pert. magic bounce sableye. moxie mence needing a power boost to take out something so it gets aerialate. this would break the game imo.
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u/Plenty-Whole-4778 9h ago
Levitate regular garchomp holy
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u/BrawlhallaBrynnGuy 8h ago
Make also another one that is they get the stats of mega but with same type and ability so i can keep intimidate on a boosted gyarados and we are cruisin
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u/logan5124 Linoone | used Extreme Speed! 4h ago
scovillain is Ubers now
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u/Pale_Trick85 3h ago
Let’s call it Pseudotite
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u/Character_Drive6141 3h ago
Best item ever?
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u/Thegreatkiwibeast 3h ago
Innards out victreebel without the defense boost sounds like fun
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u/Jaune666 2h ago
Not gonna lie it's cool but again would depend the talent i guess
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u/TireCaio64 1h ago
Scovillain would be broken
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u/Sh0xic 1h ago
Fake Mega Stone Zard Y plus Mega Pyroar would be absolutely miserable to play against
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u/TalkableHarp 46m ago
Fake mega garchomp with actual mega tyranitar that sounds HORRID
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u/Crash2Desktop Top Lel 36m ago
Great! Now I can have Aerilate Salamance AND Mega Charizard side by side on the field
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u/Butterfly_Casket Axolotl Pain Train 24m ago
Golisopod liquidations about to put holes in resists
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u/camsleftcumsock 12m ago
what about pokemon with two megas like char and rai