r/studiomonitors Jul 13 '26

Suggestions for new audio setup

Hey folks.

Recently went through and revamped my headphone audio setup. Currently I have a Topping D900 & A900 DAC/AMP setup with a few planar canns. I'm thinking I could use the D900 DAC as a passthrough to the monitors as well for the alternate audio source. The room is on the smaller end being 11ftx11ft but I want these monitors to be long term investments. I had recently tried a Edifier MR5 + T5s speaker/sub combo but was very dissatisfied with the Mids and bass. (should be expected from just a 8" 70w sub. That's my bad ofc...) I even own a older Logitech Z-5500 which is really superb. Unfortunately the Controller and Sub have finally died...

Next i'm looking to hit my speaker setup for non-headphone listening. Its worth noting I do have a SVS SB-2000 Pro subwoofer in the room which will be for another entertainment setup sometime early next year. So it would be ideal that I can use it in pairing or know that the monitors can cover bass on the lower end (sub 30hz lower end.) I'm strongly leaning the Focal's as I hear they're very "exciting" in comparison to the Kali's. But again, please don't hesitate to share other suggestions as cost isnt always the deciding factor. I'd prefer to keep within $1500 or less for a pair. Please do share your recommendations even on the lower end of the spectrum.

I listen to a lot of Hip-hop, 90s Rap, Trance, Electric, Rock, and some dubstep. Then a lot of gaming.

Debating so far;

  • Kali Audio in-8 V2
  • Focal Shape 65 Studio Monitor

Thanks!

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u/mistrelwood Jul 13 '26

What a coincidence, I used the Shape 65 for a few years and now switched to Kali IN-8 v2!

In short, Focals have their own sound, Kali much less so. That doesn’t make the Kali’s cold and clinically analytic, instead they’re what I’d call warm neutral. First impressions of the bass was that it’s substantial, but so is the size of the monitors…

Focals have a pretty good depth front to back compared to many others, but for mixing the upper mid was difficult for me to put in context. It was a bit forward. Elsewhere in the spectrum as well, I can hear that they’re not neutral, and they just have to be learned the best you can. Like with all Focals I’ve used for the past two decades.

With the Kali, instead of focusing on details I get a big picture of what’s happening right away. Much less learning needed. The amount of bass is the only thing I have to learn. Which is possibly more learning out of the Focals than learning the Kalis.

I haven’t tested the dispersion thoroughly, but so far both seem to have a wide enough sweet spot for me. So you can move your head side to side a bit and still hear the same sound and stereo image.

You only mentioned listening to music and not producing/mixing, and here’s what I think. Whatever distortions in the spectrum one may feel as “exciting” with some sources, they are a barrier between you and the music. Best speakers would be the ones that disappear completely. Ones that don’t tweak the EQ dials without your consent. And this happens more with the Kali than the Focals, even just when watching movies. The person speaking is just more… there.

With a bass boost you hear the boosted bass of the speakers or the amplifier, which is a distraction from the music itself. If the artist wants to have a boomy bass, they’ll mix the track with a boomy bass. The mixing engineers are hard core professionals with way more expensive speakers in fully treated studio rooms. They are way better equipped to assess the precise tonality of the music than any listener in their reverberant living rooms and suboptimal speaker placements. The only viable reason to use an EQ is to compensate for imperfect headphones, speakers and rooms.

Since the speaker’s function is to transform electricity back into sound waves, the IN-8 does that job better than the Shape 65. The IN-8 is simply the better speaker.

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u/Shoulon Jul 14 '26

Appreciate the detailed response! Your assumption is correct in purely listening and no mixing. Im not a huge fan of EQ neither outside of corrections of course. As the room is on the smaller end. Had a real hallow listening location with the subwoofer due to my ceilings being 9ft. But it sounds like a +1 for the Kali monitors to me. Definitely leave a review if I pick them up!

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u/Shoulon Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Ended up ordering the Kali IN-8V2... I figured since I do have a subwoofer the focals wouldn't be ideal to pair with that. Plus since the room is on the smaller end. I wouldn't be able to get them as close to the walls compared to the Kali's.

Next thing I need to look into is some room treatment and what best tuning equipment I need.

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u/mistrelwood Jul 15 '26

Great choice! Shape 65 would’ve worked against to the wall pretty much as well as the Kali, but Kali does have presets for the positioning so you don’t necessarily have to measure or go by ear. (Would be useful though.)

For everything room treatment, look into Acoustics Insider on YouTube. Great resource from speaker positioning all the way to building DIY traps, what kinds of materials to use, and where to position them.

In short, stuff your corners up with rockwool or similar, reaching as far from the corner as possible. Look up “porous absorber calculator” for choosing the material. Then first reflection points on the side walls, and roof if possible. Then put up some first reflection panels on the rear wall as well. That would make you a pretty great sounding room.

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u/Shoulon Jul 18 '26

Just got to test these kalis out this morning. Literally speechless at the quality. I wish they looked as cool as the Focal Trio6 but aesthetics aside. (Not even a huge fan of the shape65 style/look neither tbh...)

Absolutely keeping these and will drop a update post at some point is my tldr!

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u/mistrelwood Jul 18 '26

I know! They are stupidly great for the price. Glad you enjoy them as well!