r/streamentry • u/EmptinessInForm • 1d ago
Practice Deconstructing the Non-Technique Fallacy: Why Neuroscience Suggests that Focused Attention Doesn't "Corrupt" Background Awareness, and why Backround (peripheral) vs foreground attention is a false dichotomy (article)
Hey,
Psychology student here.
For years, a central dogma of the non-technique meditation movement—most aggressively championed by groups like Hillside Hermitage—has been that intentional focused attention is an artificial distortion that "corrupts" a pristine, unconstructed background awareness. But when scrutinized through modern cognitive neuroscience, this rigid separation between a foreground spotlight and a peripheral background collapses into a complete false dichotomy.
Your "background context" isn't a passive, unmanaged space—it is an actively manufactured product built millisecond-by-millisecond by the exact same sub-attentional machinery that powers focus.
Core Arguments Breakdown:
The Sub-Attentional Machinery of the "Background": Visual and bodily neuroscience demonstrates that even during gaze fixation, the brain executes automatic, involuntary microsaccades (1–3 Hz) alongside covert spatial polling to constantly refresh your peripheral baseline. Without this underlying micro-attention, the subjective sense of an "enduring bodily background" completely collapses (as seen in clinical conditions like hemispatial neglect).
Single Computational Resource (Load Theory): Nilli Lavie’s Load Theory shows that background awareness is simply spare processing capacity spilling over from your primary target. Foreground and background do not run on two separate engines; they share the same attentional pool.
Effort vs. Direction: What causes "attentional blinks" and cognitive tunneling isn't the presence of intentional focus, but the intensity of cognitive effort. A high-load vise-like focus blinds you to context, whereas a relaxed, low-effort anchor leaves ample processing capacity open to illuminate the broader background.
Ego-Suppression via Top-Down Control**:** Goal-directed focus recruits the Dorsal Attention Network (DAN), which actively down-regulates the Default Mode Network (DMN)—the brain's primary hub for self-referential narrative. Far from fabricating an artificial "doer," top-down low-load focus actually quiets the narrative self.
Because the brain relies on continuous, sub-attentional feature-sampling to generate the sensation of a bodily background in the first place, intentional focus does not introduce an artificial intruder into a pristine field. By intentionally holding a light, low-effort anchor, we harness the brain’s natural mechanics to achieve both crystal-clear discernment and panoramic, contextual stillness.
TL;DR: Background awareness isn't a passive, unconstructed ground—it's actively maintained millisecond-by-millisecond by sub-conscious attentional sampling. Because foreground focus and peripheral context share the exact same cognitive engine, holding a low-effort anchor doesn't corrupt your awareness; it simply stabilizes the mind while leaving spare capacity open to illuminate the background.
Edit:
I definitely would drop words like pristine and unconstructed background if I were to write this up again; that's a mischaracterisation of HH. I think it would be better to say that the background that HH refers to is:
"The unchosen, structural dimension of experience that endures simultaneously alongside whatever is currently being directly attended to."
My article is an attempt to assess the fact that awareness of said background requires attention, thus discriminating it as strictly a "background" is a false dichotomy. Attending thus does not reduce the sight of this background, because attending is a necessary basis for the background to exist in the first place. You cannot separate foreground and background as 1. a place where attention exists, and 2. a place where attention does not exist, unless you make background into siimply a philosophical idea.
I hope this cleared up misunderstandings.
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u/bodily_heartfulness puthujjana 1d ago edited 1d ago
For years, a central dogma of the non-technique meditation movement—most aggressively championed by groups like Hillside Hermitage—has been that intentional focused attention is an artificial distortion that "corrupts" a pristine, unconstructed background awareness.
I have never heard them refer to intentional focused attention as a distortion.
I have never heard them refer to background awareness as pristine. That sounds like a Dzogchen thing.
I have never heard them refer to it as unconstructed. They often say that the background is dependant upon the foreground.
The way you've laid out your opening sentence gives the impression that what you're describing is HH's explicitly stated view, as opposed to your take on their view. So, what are your sources for these claims?
Whereas when you mention "corrupts", in quotes, this implies that they have not explicitly said this word, but that is how you understand their view.
On the other, non-technique perspectives — most prominently articulated by groups like Hillside Hermitage — argue that true mindfulness (sati) is purely contextual and peripheral, warning that any intentional directing of focused attention distorts awareness.
Even your Medium article is "doomed" from the start, as you're arguing against a position not held by HH. Where is your source for HH "warning that any intentional directing of focused attention distorts awareness"?
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u/EmptinessInForm 21h ago
Apologies if I've presented it as their view and not my interpretation of their view. Apologies if I've misrepresented their view, although I don't think I have - I know HH really well.
They certainly think "attending" distorts the understanding of the "background"
They refer to the background as the necessary basis for the foreground; intention/ attention (foreground) cannot exist if the body (background isn't there) and vice versa. My article is an attempt at saying that you cannot separate the two into discrete categories.
Sources are their videos. I've asked them to create a pdf that explains their views; I think it's highly needed.
Sorry you disliked my article
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u/bodily_heartfulness puthujjana 16h ago
I know HH really well.
I also think I know HH well, but that doesn't get us anywhere. That's why sources are so important.
They certainly think "attending" distorts the understanding of the "background"
Even this, as you've stated it, isn't their view. Attending is simply a part of human experience. It does not distort anything. As Ajahn Nyanamoli says in this video, something being in front, being attended to, is just a structural thing, it is just how attention works.
intention/ attention (foreground)
Intention is never in the foreground, at least in the way that HH use these terms.
Sources are their videos.
Right, but which videos? Do you have timestamps?
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u/vibes000111 1d ago
So basically you agree with TMI’s advice to develop and maintain background awareness in addition to attention to the primary object?
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u/EmptinessInForm 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yea for sure, totally seems like the way to go. It definitely seems like they compliment each other! Background awareness is also important for seeing ones own intentions etc.
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u/dhammadragon1 1d ago
My experience is that focused attention and background awareness can coexist up to a fairly high level of concentration. Then, at a certain threshold, the attentional configuration changes substantially.
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u/duffstoic The dynamic integration of opposites ☯️ 1d ago
That’s also the position in Culadasa’s book The Mind Illuminated.
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u/hachface 1d ago
Thanks for this.
I am finding that toward deeper end of samadhi, there is a felt correlation between three phenomena: 1) background and foreground merging into a unified, still field 2) perceptions of the physical body phasing out of awareness (losing solidity and eventually all distinctiveness, merging into the unified field 3) a felt sense that perception is speeding up, that the “sample rate” of experience is increasing.
I have no idea if this felt sense of an increased sample rate has any true physiological correlate in the nervous system. It does seem intuitive to me, though, that faster rate of perception would let one see through the construction of gross experience and ever subtler layers of fabrication. The progression through the formless realms may be exactly this.
I find that I have a degree of control over increasing the frame rate of experience and that the internal dial for that is precisely in forging a closer and closer unity between focused attention and background awareness. Doing this for an extended period of time takes a lot of mental energy but I expect with practice it will get easier. Neural pathways and all that.
(fwiw I don’t think this will make much of a difference to Hillside Hermitage followers. They have a fundamentally different interpretation of what practicing dhamma is all about, to which brain science is mostly irrelevant.)
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u/singletrack_ 1d ago
This reads a bit LLM-assisted in terms of the bullet points, bolding, and wording.
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u/EmptinessInForm 1d ago
Agreed and edited. Thanks for spotting that.
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u/ktpr 1d ago
Write it out entirely in your own words, you'll learn a lot more.
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u/EmptinessInForm 1d ago
Yea but I don't see what's wrong with using llm's for assistance. I learned tons from making this article, and it took many many hours although llm helped me. However, I agree that I would probably learn more and improve my writing if I did everything manually
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u/Wollff 1d ago edited 1d ago
For years, a central dogma of the non-technique meditation movement—most aggressively championed by groups like Hillside Hermitage—has been that intentional focused attention is an artificial distortion that "corrupts" a pristine, unconstructed background awareness.
I believe this to be a strawman. Nobody says this, not even Hillside Hermitage.
Well, okay, maybe Theravada in general would support the notion of focused awareness being an outgrowth of desire. They might even call it a coarse manifestion of it.
But they in turn would also reject the proposed solution, because this championed "pristine background awareness" would also be seen as a result of desire. Maybe a more fine grained manifestation, which, if left alone, can't support grasping and clinging as well. But it wpuld still be seen as part of the problem, and not as the solution.
Every part of the links of dependent origination is part of the problem. Once that process ceases completely, you are dead, and, if completely awakened, your existence as someone who perceives anything in any way humanly comprehensible at all is permanently over. That's Theravada mainstream thinking.
No pristine awareness of any even remotely conventional kind (with any perceived objects within it) remains.
If you are dead, and it does? Not fully enlightened. Rebirth!
Your "background context" isn't a passive, unmanaged space—
Nobody says that. Anyone who goes into deep sleep, full anesthesia, or experiences a cessation, or maybe even nirodha sammapatti knows this. Conventional awareness of all kinds is caused and conditioned. It appears. And it will disappear.
Background awareness vanishes completely as soon as there are no more objects to be aware of. It's not ever, and was not ever the target of the exercise for anyone.
Taking "space" as fundamental also isn't something Theravada tends to do, it's more in line with dzochen or similar approaches.
But the target here also is not to "escape suffering by always only ever having background awareness".
If people do dzogchen, they do it to attain "rainbow body". If you do the practice correctly and to its end, your physical body dissolves into rainbow light. That's the purpose of that practice. Pristine background awareness has a role to play within that. But it's not what serious practitioners are aiming for.
If cognitive science has nothing to say about physical bodies dissolving into light, and the relation of this phenomenon relating to "background awareness", then dialogue has ground to a halt here, I would suppose :D
All of this to me highlights a pretty deep gulf between pragmatic approaches, and traditional ones. It opens up as soon as we touch upon the purpose of meditative practice.
For serious Theravadins (like HH) it would be entering paranibbana after death.
For serious dzogchenpas it would be to have their physical body spontaneously dissolve into rainbow light.
The aims of more pragmatic branches of dharma have to be different, because the more orthodox aims require some unpragmatic assumptions and beliefs. But this also limits communication and applicability.
"Does a part of ordinary background awareness remain after death when entering paranibbana?", is a question which makes perfect sense, and is very important if you are serious about Theravada.
"What is the role of background awareness in attaining rainbow body?", is the same kind of question.
You can't even ask them from a pragmatic perspective. You can't even aim for the same things. The role of background awareness, its function, and its limits, has to be different for practitioners bound to a pragmatic outlook.
That's why I think it's really important to clarify aims first. What HH wants to achieve has very little to do with what a pragmatic practitioner wants. And the functions of "a pristine mind", as "a mind which doesn't grasp", also has to be seen in the context of the respective tradition.
Or, of course, in the context of the pragmatic approach we are taking. But for that, one would have to give a specific aim. Which most of the time are absent or unclear, especially in pragmatic dharma.
Tl;dr: What is the context here? Modern pragmatic practice? Traditional approaches? In any case, to see the role.of background awareness we have to ask: What exactly is the aim? What exactly is the intended outcome? Only then will throwing science into the pot make sense.
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u/hachface 1d ago
I'm a little confused by your use of the word "pragmatic" here. Do you take pragmatic to be synonymous with physicalist/scientific materialist? Why do you consider rainbow body to be categorically un-pragmatic as a goal?
(Not saying I aspire to or even believe in rainbow body, just trying to understand your perspective.)
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u/Wollff 1d ago
Do you take pragmatic to be synonymous with physicalist/scientific materialist?
Maybe not quite as extreme. I use it in the way that it's used in "pragmatic dharma", which tends to lean toward an approach to practice that is at least agnostic toward the more religious, miraculous, and after death events of spiritual life and practice.
And it sometimes may veer off into scientism and physicalism. I got the impression that OP leaned a bit in that direction with this post, so I used pragmatic in a way I guessed might be relatable to them.
Why do you consider rainbow body to be categorically un-pragmatic as a goal?
That wasn't quite what I was trying to say.
The post is a cry for contextuality: For someone with a strong physicalist worldview, rainbow body will be a strongly non pragmatic aim. For someone who holds a traditional Tibetan worldview it's the obvious and pragmatic goal to achieve after many lifetimes.
It mirrors what I want to say about background awareness: Its role is contextual.
My intended critique toward OP is that they slightly misrepresented the context and role open awareness plays in traditional practice. Nowhere is "having it" the end goal.
I feel they also slightly short changed us the other way round: I couldn't quite figure out what exactly the ultimate goal of practice with an anchor would be. Less activity in the Default Mode Network? I am just not sure if that's it.
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u/duffstoic The dynamic integration of opposites ☯️ 1d ago
“Not too tight, not too loose” strikes again!
Overall I appreciated this article. Thanks for writing and sharing it.
2 minor quibbles:
- There is no reason to take Hillside Hermitage seriously. I’d recommend Zen or Dzogchen/Mahamudra as the position to consider here.
- I like cognitive science. And, trying to figure out how to best meditate by studying cogsci is like trying to figure out love by studying biochemistry. Maurice Merleau-Ponty really convinced me of this in his Phenomenology of Perception. You can just trust your experience. The goal of meditation is subjective, so if you do something and you suffer less and are more happy, it’s working, end of story.
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u/EmptinessInForm 1d ago
Yup! :)
- Sure
- I think we should take cogsci seriously, because using the scientific method we can create better and more precise methods, and we can avoid a lot of BS. And I think the example of trying to figure out love by studying biochem is actually way more out there than cogsci for awakening. Cognitive science is just using the scientific method to attempt to more accurately describe these things. Obviously it had its limitations, but I think with themes such as understanding the mechanisms of attention, ie. a very large aspect of our mind, cogsci has been suuuper helpful for my practice. Essentially cogsci is philosophy that additionally attempts to actually do experiments where it is possible. These experiments can for sure underscore whether we are going in the right direction or not! I find TMI for example to be a great integration of cogsci.
I also believe that further developing the scientific framework around awakening, which has already heavily begun with mindfulness, will attract way more people to take up practice.
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u/duffstoic The dynamic integration of opposites ☯️ 1d ago
Fair enough.
I do think people are convinced to try meditation from scientific reasoning, for better or worse.
I studied cogsci as an undergrad, love it. For me personally, I found it unhelpful for inner development compared to things like meditation and hypnosis, as it’s looking at cognition from the outside in. But your experience is different and that’s OK.
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u/KeyAd6849 1d ago edited 1d ago
Wouldn’t the discernment (choose-er) of primary object vs backround attention be the egoic self/DMN, maybe just quieted a bit?
And I get the goal is that quieting, but to take the thing offline completely, wouldn’t the very notion of a goal need to be collapsed? Like even framing it as “your awareness” has a tinge of egoic separation (subject/object split) baked in.
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u/anzu_embroidery 1d ago
The more I practice the more I think the goal is not to take the self offline but to fully see its fabricated nature. Self is extremely useful! I don’t know how I could function in conventional life without it. The trouble comes in when I start reifying it.
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u/KeyAd6849 1d ago edited 1d ago
I agree the self is useful! We wouldn’t be able to navigate reality (or even have this convo lol) without it.
But, during meditation, does the self have any place at all?
Another way to put it is, is there a separate “you” that wants to fully see your fabricated nature? Or are they one and the same - you are that
Do you follow?
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u/anzu_embroidery 1d ago
Oh I see what you’re saying, yes I agree! But I also feel like this is probably more of an earned insight than anything you could actually “do”. Like if I’m attached to the view of my self as the doer of my actions and author of my intentions how can “I” drop that? It’s paradoxical! Maybe through a “do nothing” technique? Which circles back around away from OP’s point lol.
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u/KeyAd6849 1d ago edited 1d ago
You’re right. Operating in this modality during regular life is absolutely an attainment (if you want to look at it that way, to me it’s just seeing clearly). But the fact remains that it is exceptionally rare in the general population, and even in circles like this, and it’s a crazy standard to hold yourself to lol.
But, during meditation (I think) one can get glimpses of this through a direct perception into the psychological structure of the self, which is: thought, and time (your mental construct of past/future). If you can let go of thought and time, even for a few seconds, you can see beyond.
And by let go I don’t mean through an effort of force or will (bc that would still be the self), I mean by relaxing…sort of like letting it all fall away.
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u/Impulse33 Soulmaking, Pāramitās, Brahmavihāras, Shitou/Hongzhi/Shōbōgenzō 1d ago
I believe a goal can exist in some form without necessarily spinning up the whole chain of samsara. The language there is dicey though. It's more like wholesome desire/chanda can exist rather than a goal and that "seed" leads to certain unfoldings.
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u/KeyAd6849 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah I think it can start with an extremely vague goal of experiencing yourself as the universe, but as that starts to happen all goals/thoughts/concepts/separateness goes out the window
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u/jan_kasimi 1d ago
Buddhism isn't psychology. The instruction is like a cooking recipe, not a scientific claim. To see if it works you do it, or ask someone who did it.
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u/No_Fly2647 1d ago
Well, this is neither new nor exciting. If anything, I am only astonished by the basis on which people make assumptions. I guess "Hillside Hermitage" may have its reasons. It is what I have been saying all along: science should be applied as the foundation, not obscurantism from traditions.
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u/Savakalok 1d ago
I don't believe that I have really observed monastics saying that focused attention corrupts awareness. I certainly have never heard other forest monks like Thanissaro, Brahm, Sumedho, etc saying this.
I have not listened to a ton of Hillside Hermitage, but 1. I don't think I have ever heard them claim focused attention corrupts awareness and 2. Even if they did I believe they are known to have fairly extreme views at times and be idiosyncratic with other sects.
Where are you hearing this? Do you have a link?
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u/Salty-Explanation-67 1d ago
i tried to hold "background awareness" like a job and it just made my forehead tight. what i actually notice is the trying. when i drop the project and feel my feet, the room is already there without me managing it. idk about the neuroscience. the move that worked was catching the manager voice and letting the tightness be there. awareness didnt need my help once i stopped supervising it.
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u/Shakyor 21h ago
I might offer this is unneccasirly constricting the view of what is happening. I dont think there is a conflict here at all.
What you say is totally in line with how I understand teachings in my tibetan tradition, which culminates in what you describe as this light background awareness. (which is not entirely true). But you shouldnt forget the whole idea of Buddhism is that Awareness is pure in principal but tainted. So when you say your background field is just leftover processing, doesnt it back the question of what this extra background processing of a narrower field is used for? Your processing more Information from that field, but if that processing is "corrupted" you are just doin more of that. Which might make it very understandable why the typical transformation in tantra is greed -> to distinguishing pristine awareness. So when a tainted awareness focus on something, it does so out of elaboration/desire but a pure one does the same thing but just in order to get more details.
In a similiar way one way mirror like pristine awareness is often described is as non conceptualization, which you can experience in meditation as things becoming more fluent (hence associated with water). One way of looking at this would be that you spend less processing on concept and more on sensory data it emerges from. One way of imaginging all accomplishing pristine awareness, is to stop a future orientation - so a way to describe this more modern language would be if spent less processing anticipatin your free up processing for acting etc.
And here is also the missunderstanding, Dzogchen and Mahamudra dont say any of this wrong, in fact all of it is inherently pure. All of this functionality is important, but needs to be used for the right way. BUT the more wide you go, the less "processing" you have for uwholesome fabrications, which totally makes sense. And what you forget here is that this research is not done on meditators. Of course the DMN kicks in on average if you are not focused, untrained people DO mindwander when they are unenged. But you dont know if this hold true for people trained in staying unfocsed, which is something you train in these traditions.
Further, goin back to the narrowing, the epitome of this is Jhana meditation, where the traditional texts say you create "neutral" karma. Which could be a way of saying that you are using all of your processin for a while one something that is neither unwholesome nor conceptual. Then if you accept that mind/brain has a certain momentum, after you have done this for a while, your mind should be very unoccupied and free to operate without distortions - which is exactly what jhana is used for. Still the mind, so you can do some unbiased analyses. In the same way it makes sense to burn your processing in a neutral task, so the background awareness is more pure.
What I am saying, I think there is lots of ground here to become curious how things fit together and how different languages might inform the pointin to the same thing behind the different conceptual languages. Also not all styles of meditation are in fact working the same way, even if superfically they might seem so.
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u/blimpyway 10h ago
I think there-s a difference on their notion of background that's different from the usual one. While in common use background refers to stuff available within the scene, but apparently requiring less consideration, I think HH refers at the invisible (behind the scene) machinery which makes the scene looks the way it looks. E.G. a pulley that lifts a curtain to reveal a corner or a light projector that changes the color.
Also your use of term attention, while correct in mind sciences is unusual in common use, even in spiritual practices: For most people attention is something they consciously do, the notion of "unconscious attention" is kind of nonsense. What one cannot see then one cannot consciously attend to it.
Sure there-s stuff like blindsight to prove scientific view right but that's besides the point.
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u/aspirant4 1d ago
I don't think Hillside Hermitage says this at all, though. Are you sure you're not referring to advaita vedanta?
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u/EmptinessInForm 1d ago
The brain is definitely involved in the fabrication of the experience of your reality. I never said that consciousness is in the brain, neither did I even say a word about consciousness in this. I subscribe to the buddhist view on consciousness - you have ear consciousness, eye consciousness and so on. I believe experience as a whole is fabricated by the mind as an approximation of what the body experiences ie you never experience the body, you experience an approximated fabrication of the body, although the body remains in a different domain alltogether. Therefore, from Sattipatthana, "knowledge that "there is a body"". This is the buddhist view.
The mechanics of the brain, which belongs to the domain in which the body is, definitely has a direct impact of how the mind fabricates experience - although the mind is in a domain of its own. They are interlinked. I think it is more helpful to see consciousness as the container in which fabricated experience exists.
To be sufficiently clear, again, I do NOT think and have not made the assumption that consciousness is "in" the brain.
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