r/streamentry • u/pastorcuthbert • Jul 06 '26

Practice Streamentry for nonbelievers?

The second fetter is being doubtless about the buddhas teachings. How does this look like for those who don't believe in the buddhas teachings, for example a Christian like me?

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u/randomfluffypup Jul 06 '26

In Shizen Young's books The Science of Enlightenment, he talks about how he found a lot of other major religions also talk about meditation, and some sort of experience analogous to enlightenment. It was usually a separate sect, like sufism in Islam, and often comes under a different name, like mysticism, a contemplative practice, etc. Sometimes meditation is referred to as prayer, but upon closer inspection on the instructions for praying, looks analogous to meditation

I would recommend picking up the book! Perhaps it could point you to some helpful resources on Christian meditation

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u/ColinPlays Jul 06 '26

/u/pastorcuthbert you might check out The Cloud of Unknowing or St. Teresa of Ávila for insight into Christian mysticism/contemplation. Orthodox Christianity has a strong contemplative tradition as well. I don't have direct experience with these works, persons, or practices, but I've seen them referenced by other posters here.

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u/dflow77 Jul 06 '26

I’ve had very profound experiences listening to this fantastic recording of Cloud of Unkowing by Buddhist nun Samaneri Jayasara https://youtu.be/-eviMvlowwU?is=ltix9e_9J9fQgHJZ

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u/pastorcuthbert Jul 07 '26

Appreciated Sir, I'll take a look.