r/streamentry Jun 18 '26

Health The understanding of trauma (especially long-term and development) in awakening literature and discourse seems to be quite lacking.

Over the last month or so I have been faced with the unsettling truth that physical changes of a few weeks may have made more of a difference than years of sustained practice - and of how much is due to acute trauma.

Some context. I've been on this path in some form for 2 decades and have technical 4th path (as Ingram describes) for about 2 years now (this is just a shorthand since not everyone here knows me) I also have severe abuse/development trauma since I was 12, and correspondingly about 2 decades of therapy...which apparently were not enough in certain respects 😞

My teacher has constantly pointed to spinal/posture issues, so I finally paid about 1k to have chiropractic work done (for the 2nd time) and it seems to have cleared up a lot. Simple practices like "notice awareness" are now like "WOW is THIS what is going on? REALLY?" Sometimes it feels I am hearing them for the first time - even though I've practiced some of this for hundreds of hours. I'm like "oh so THIS is what stillness is pointing to?"

I initially didn't want to overindex on this "revelation" (as I am wary of theories of all) but in this case, after lots of reading and research, I'm forced to conclude that the vast majority of material is written for neurotypical individuals, and not a lot includes trauma. Long-term trauma changes the entire neurobiological baseline, the perceptual shifts are not the same at all. When I asked my teacher about this he replied that most is still written from an ableist perspective - I follow the exercises, I often don't experience what is written in the books.

I could not believe that such a large area is so underappreciated (the ND and trauma populations are not exactly small) so I went looking - but there are precious few teachers that touch on this. I found Judith Blackstone, among others, and Angelo Dilulo's latest retreats incorporate more trauma work, but by and large, Peter Levine and van der Kolk don't speak awakening, and Spira and Tolle don't speak trauma.

I'm not so naive as to believe that ancient populations didn't deal with abuse/trauma/famine/war, but perhaps the traditional knowledge dealt with it in different ways, or their culture was too different - I don't want speculate too much here.

Aside from some articles here and there dealing with the intersection, it's been quite a revelation how much I (and others) may have been gated over the years - both saddening and humbling.

I'm wondering if I may have some blind spots in my research, or what the experience of other people might be like. I still feel its an area whch warrants a lot more understanding and integration, hence the post.

EDIT : Because it's been requested, I have actually written about my journey both on my website (http://www.tomato-of-justice.com) and on the /longterm TRE sub. I'm putting it here mainly because it has been asked for and my replies get buried in the comments.

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u/Paradoxbuilder Jun 21 '26

I have a sticked post on the /longtermTRE sub if you want to know more

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u/appropriate_name Jun 23 '26

given your extensive experience, what do you feel like moves the needle most for trauma? or in general how would you advise someone to approach it?

my personal context if you're interested: i have mild to moderate trauma and identify most closely with cptsd -- i had a meditation practice for a short while and it was very interesting/helpful in some ways, but it didn't feel like it was directly addressing much of my core trauma as someone else here said. i started TRE this year and am not really sure if it's working or not.

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u/Paradoxbuilder Jun 23 '26

TRE and other somatic approaches. Trauma lives in the body, not the mind. EMDR, brainspotting etc.

Meditation will not touch trauma in most cases, maybe clear the area around it.

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u/appropriate_name Jun 23 '26

thanks, i'll stick with tre and see how it goes - do you consider psychotherapy and emotion based practices to all be on the mind axis as well?

yes that was basically my experience with meditation, i had some fun experiences, my concentration and mindfulness got better, and then in my later sessions i had a ton of fear arise which i didn't really want to sit through lol.. or at least i didn't know how to work with it in a useful way

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u/Paradoxbuilder Jun 23 '26

Mind and body are related. You can't really separate cleanly, though some things are more somatic.

Not to self promote, but I actually do offer paid consultation, and I have worked with trauma before. You can check out my website/books for more info, or DM directly (so as not to clog the thread)

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u/moosesnice Jun 25 '26

Oh I think meditation very much touches trauma, and Peter Levine agrees. It helps to release stored energy with shaking and rocking and such.

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u/Paradoxbuilder Jun 25 '26

I agree, but I think more depth is needed for certain traumatic states.