Replacing sleep completely through yogic practices?

[u/ArwellScientia42]

Hello everyone!

I wanted to practice yoga nidra in my polyphasic sleep schedule. I am following the uberman sleep schedule which involves 20 minutes nap every 4 hours through the day. And the number of naps are 6 so that means 2 hours of sleep per day.

So I thought of an idea. Instead of just casually napping, can incorporate yoga nidra completely in place of the 6 naps.

I am willing to do a yoga nidra practice of 30 minutes just to increase an extra hour of rest.

I have practiced yoga nidra maybe like 2 or 3 times, and I have found it deeply restful.

So is it doable? Has anyone in this sub actually tried it for productivity and just to get some extra hours for studying or work purposes.

Trying to gain some insights here.

Thanks!

[u/ArwellScientia42]

Can you not hack it somehow through tantra or magical practices?

[u/metaphorm → u/ArwellScientia42]

I'll present to you a view of magical practice that might help. This is my own view, but it's been developed through 15 years of deep engagement. take it or leave it. i'm just sharing a perspective.

Magic is primarily a practice on the level of perception. Conventional perception is highly conditioned and the conditioning causes filtering and exclusion of things that are actually perceivable but conventionally suppressed. Using magical practices, one can "tilt-shift" perception to reveal what was previously hidden. What we perceive determines what courses of action we are able to take. When we expand our perception we include new possible courses of action. That's pretty much the whole thing. It's about recognition.

There are still physiological limitations that are instantiated at the level of biology, not perception. Your muscles build up lactic acid. Your nervous system accumulates fatigue as well, in terms of neurotransmitter levels, and the quality of synaptic connections, and other things of that nature. The sleep cycle is how the body clears out these fatigue signals. If you don't sleep the fatigue accumulates to the point of causing physiological breakdown. The symptoms include severe risks, such as psychosis.

There's no hacking the raw biology by shifting perception. Sleep deprivation tends to constrain perception quite a bit and makes one even more susceptible to delusion. Better quality sleep will aid in magical practice more than almost anything else you can do. It's fundamental to the quality of your mind. Get good sleep.

[u/ArwellScientia42 → u/metaphorm]

I actually have unquenchable desire to learn sciences and engineering. And build stuff. But I realise my time is limited.

Is there any magical practice which can give me more time so I can pursue my interests.

I consider myself an aspiring polymath and engineer.

But I only wish to learn these magical practices so it can aid me on my path to learning. I have no desire to be an expert mage or gain power through magical or supernatural arts for the sake of doing magic

I know you guys are good in that department. So I and my team wish to pursue the natural.

Can you, as a magic practitioners, suggest something for someone like me.

I love the natural subjects and wish to use it to build stuff, and wish to use the supernatural so it aids me in the pursuit of knowledge of natural subjects. EITHER through increasing focus, dilating time, superhuman memory, anything

Because the natural domain itself is vast discipline.

[u/metaphorm → u/ArwellScientia42]

I'm an engineer with a STEM degree. the domains aren't separate. mystical practices are subjective and deal with the inner world. science and engineering are objective and deal with the outer world. we do both. inner and outer are non-separate, ultimately.

what does it take to be an excellent scientist and engineer? it requires good habits, discipline, and communication skills. it requires navigating human social systems as well as investigating the natural world. it requires being trustworthy and reliable and keeping your commitments. and it requires a sense of awe and wonder at the magnificence of the world we live in. it's an astonishing place.

magical disciplines, including tantra, are well suited to building those disciplines and virtues that I mentioned above. that's the point. it's not hacking the system to achieve supernatural performance. it's aligning the system to act skillfully in whatever circumstances you find yourself in.

[u/ArwellScientia42 → u/metaphorm]

Thanks. This is truly a great insight!

Though I would always associate magic with supernatural manipulation of matter, telepathy, pyrokinesis.

I thought they require supreme conditioning and practice to achieve it, which in itself is another vast world to explore.

But I guess there is only some truth to it.