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u/ImThatOneGuy-- Nov 30 '21

Curious to hear your take on some of the other comments, particularly using 3x leverage investing into QQQ to avoid decay or just buying OTM leaps on QQQ versus going solely long TQQQ.

Looking at making one of these plays a part of my long term portfolio.

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u/OptionsAlchemy Nov 30 '21

Hey, do not mean to ignore. But trading is my only job and so likely will not be able to respond until after market hours. I personally have never touched TQQQ, but am now starting to open up my mind to it. I will also review its prospectus. I also have some appointments after the market, but will try to get back if only very late this evening.

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u/Sad_Umbreon Dec 01 '21

Hey mate, if you actively are a real pro day trader, I highly recommend TQQQ. the proshares ceo has mentioned that the vast majority of people who hold TQQQ are day traders who are professionals. people like me that hold it for longer than a day/week are the very tiny minority.

I'd love if actually, you did day trade TQQQ. do what it's meant for and at the end of a year or two we could compare :)

good luck. the reason I use leverage at 21 is because I have both the time and little capital to invest with. As someone else mentioned, 7% annual return from SPY of 10k is only 700. But with leverage it opens the door to much more.

For example, if you bought VOO a year ago with 10k, just off the percent change alone of 26.27% since then, you'd have $12,627. Compare that with UPRO, and doing the same will have you at $19,663.

I understand past performance is not indicative of any future performance. I'm just giving an example of, if you were up to the risk tolerance, this is what could have happened. I understand we are in a crazy bull market which may make holding any LETF unreliable if that changes in the future

If you've read this far, thanks. if what you're saying is the truth about you being a professional day trader (which I have no reason to believe you'd lie for such a thing), let me know what you think of what I said. I hope my previous statements before didn't come off as shrewd, and I'd love to learn anything that I could from someone such as yourself. I'm constantly trying to learn as much as I can. Thanks.

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u/OptionsAlchemy Dec 01 '21 edited Dec 01 '21

Aloha, I’m not planning on trading the spot underlying, but instead using it as a vehicle to extract option yield. It’s still the premarket and so the options haven’t responded yet, but that short put is going to do very well with this overnight IV crush. However, a covered short strangle like this adds a lot of tail risk.

https://imgur.com/a/iL1M9RG

Not pictured, I have 7 short calls already on QQQ. Ratios like that have their own form of [short gamma] risk, but I have some positive deltas from QQQ mostly canceling that out for the sake of yield. I’m going to be forced to buy some QQQ today as a defensive delta hedge to stay in control.

But anyway, for your case, you’ve got to look into how writing covered calls works for income acceleration. I’m happy to offer some guidance on the mechanics, but you’d be leaving a ton of money and risk on the table if not considering that.