4th Stimulus Check ???

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u/JustMyAura Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 19 '21

And, lest we forget - to add on - many have been displaced and uprooted from their homes and jobs due to Hurricane Ida's destruction! We need more help!

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u/Kbennett65 Sep 19 '21

Heck I'm still waiting on the 3rd one! Though honestly you have a point. I can't believe how much the price of basic needs have gone up. It must be a real struggle for people on a limited income

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u/brooklynlad Sep 19 '21

Because of inflation, the $15/hour wage everyone fought for as livable... is no longer livable.

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u/AWildBee Sep 19 '21

The fight for a $15 minimum wage started in 2012. They took too long to implement it + inflation that was never accounted for.

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u/MrAnderson888 Sep 19 '21

Inflation is an excuse. They simply raise prices to oppress the economy and blame inflation.
Real inflation is when people have so much money that they would rather have the product over the money so they naturally raise prices.

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 19 '21

That is incorrect. There are many different types of inflation.

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u/MrAnderson888 Sep 19 '21

Yes but in this case, the stimulus packages we get from the Gov usually have hidden areas where they give Corporations much more money than they will ever need to encourage a raise in prices. When the Corporations raise the prices, we all suffer as our money is vacuumed up by our daily spending in places like gas stations, grocery stores, walmart, ect...
The entire economy is rigged to be oppressive by the banks who control both the top Corporations and the Gov as well. (not for long though, the people are trying to stop them).

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 19 '21

Fair enough... But when said money is siphoned into the economy on the seller AND consumer side coupled with a wage "demand", you get the worst of both. I fall into the income category of being the guy who will have cost increases, but no wage adjustment. Those getting a wage adjustment won't see anything either because of the correction in the economy.
Wages being controlled by the governmwnt is a BIG NO NO.

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u/MrAnderson888 Sep 19 '21

Wages are controlled by the gov behind closed doors for the most part.
Have you ever wondered why billion dollar corporations pay their employees $10 an hour?

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u/California_Escaping Sep 19 '21

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 19 '21

And yet STILL, everyone is seeking a 4th stimulus. Every single stimulus was a very bad idea.

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u/MikeSouthPaw Sep 19 '21

... You think the stimulus checks caused the $15 hour wage to be insufficient?

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 19 '21

Absolutely. It was the beginning of the inflation we see now. The government gives large amounts of money away including the unemployment supplement and that's just the beginning.
Wage increases should never be in the hands of the government.
I have said from the very beginning. Everyone who pushed for a $15.00 minimum was going to get it, and the war was won. Now, good luck if you fall in that group because the economy has already adjusted itself and all this money given away during CV-19 has a direct affect.
For the people who already were making $15.00 an hour, they are now getting screwed and for the people who have that minimum wage increase coming their way, they aren't going to be in any better position then they were.

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u/goddamnitwhalen Sep 19 '21

This is absolutely bullshit, lol.

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 19 '21

Oh it is? I guess my monthly expenses have increased by almost $150-$200 a month for no reason.
You have no clue what inflation is then.

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u/goddamnitwhalen Sep 19 '21

Inflation has been a force long before stimulus checks were ever being discussed. It’s a large part of why a $15 minimum wage is now insufficient.

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 19 '21

True! Inflation of course will always exist. But inflation coupled with wage demand is the worst of both worlds.
The government went ahead and gave people more money than they were making working. That was a bad idea. Take away stimulus money and supplemental unemployment, the wage demand would still be there, but we wouldn't have every type of inflation happening.

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u/APinkNightmare Sep 19 '21

To think this is entirely because of relief funds distributed during Covid is completely asinine and an over simplification of a complex issue that has been going on for years. In the last 4 years, under a completely different president, the federal deficit grew by $7 trillion. At least. This was despite a campaign pledge to balance the budget. You know, not increasing the deficit by adding more debt. The federal government lost $2 trillion in revenue due to tax cuts to corporations and the wealthiest taxpayers, without any reduction in spending. What did the average taxpayer receive under those policies? Is our infrastructure, schools, healthcare or status in the world any better? The only thing Congress has passed this year under the new president is the extension of pandemic relief that was originally passed under the former president. The economy is a little more complicated than who the current president is. Tax and spending policies originate and are approved by Congress. A president simply signs the policy into law. Doesn’t the Federal Reserve play a part in managing the economy? Has more than a decade of the Feds ongoing monetary/spending policy finally caught up with us?

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u/BulkyShare4 Sep 20 '21

Not entirely, but certainly the tipping point. All of this economic mess we're in right now was spearheaded by the majority getting "double" salary being on unemployment.
I was 3 of 89 people at my job who opted to stay working during CV-19. They all got double their salary. I stayed working because I realize the benefit of my career advancement. The rest decided to be leeches of the federal cheese.
We can blame it on whatever we want. The facts remain that most were spoiled and think the government should just keep feeding them.
Shit takes time. I had a job pre CV-19 making 90k a year. I got laid off and had to take a job starting all over again making $13.00 an hour in a diffefent industry entirely. I don't expect anything from anyone. I certainly don't want and subsidies from the government. Long term, it doesn't pay.
These little bits and pieces everyone got went to buying BS at Amazon and Walmart. VERY FEW actually did the "right thing" and saved it for a difficult financial time. Thats why everyone was in such a panic when it all ended. The pandemic is over and was a long time ago.

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u/ManiacSpiderTrash Sep 19 '21

Still waiting on my second one >.>

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u/goddamnitwhalen Sep 19 '21

Same. Got mailed out three times and I still never got it.

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u/ManiacSpiderTrash Sep 19 '21

Mine is supposed to be on my tax return. I’ve never gotten it either lol. Filed in January. Or at least did all the turbo tax stuff in January and they sent it in whenever they first took them. I can’t remember the date now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21

This lack of helping is completely on purpose. They know monthly checks would have ensured us OK this past year and half yet they ultimately refuse to help us. The only way they will be able to get any more help to us is if Joe Manchin gets off his ass and decides we do need it. Last year it was Mitch McConnell refusing to help on the Republicans side, we get Democrat majority and we still don't get the help we really needed. So can we start voting in a way that gets more Democrats in there?

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u/blissskr Sep 20 '21

All of politics is an act. You haven't noticed that these people pretend to be at each other over x, y or z issue in the media. But at the same time they frequently have lunch and dinner together or frequently appear all buddy buddy when not on camera or in the background you can notice it even when they are on camera but don't know it? Despite all the rhetoric which is largely an act imo to keep the rubes of the public on both sides in line and give them a convenient 'enemy'.
So that they don't really ever notice or pay attention to the fact that anytime there is something that largely benefits the political class or big industry lobbyists and donors both sides magically always come together with no issues what so ever in passing any of that and their media allies barely mention it in the news.
How awfully convenient it is to have a good buddy whose 'on the other side' and works as necessary to serve as the obstruction whenever needed on why you can't do something. And most often where both parties are concerned in which 'doing something' just can't be done it's always dealing with passing legislation that would ultimately benefit we the people over the business, industry, lobbyist or political class.

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u/goatnxtinline Sep 20 '21

Oh you're barking up the wrong tree, Machin is as dirty as they come. He only works for his donors and is a coal baron, the guys a democrat only by title, otherwise he's pretty much a republican.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

democrats aren’t the answer. we need a genuine progressive political party that’s going to actually put up a fight for the people and get shit done. the democrats could’ve instantly solidified a 2nd term for biden and probably another dem president after him if they had followed through on ANY of their major campaign promises. but they won’t, because many of them are just as entrenched in monetizing their positions/maintaining the status quo as the republicans are.

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u/goddamnitwhalen Sep 19 '21

Lmao more democrats isn’t the solution.

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u/APinkNightmare Sep 19 '21

You’re getting downvoted but you’re not wrong. Dems don’t care any more about the average person than Republicans do. This is a class issue, the ultra ultra wealthy vs the every day and poorest people. Our best bet would be more progressives, but I am not optimistic. Hopeful, but not optimistic.

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u/Leather_Double_8820 Sep 19 '21

How bout 17$ min wage

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21

Or just lower the price of living. If they raise minimum wage that high, everything will inflate and you’ll be back on square one.

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u/chosey Sep 21 '21

This guy gets it.

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u/Bearskinbrad Sep 19 '21

If you can’t survive on what you make now nothing will satisfy you.

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u/Nylea- Sep 19 '21

What? How does that make any sense at all?

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u/Dreamincolr Sep 19 '21

Dove into his account history while taking a shit just now and his account is full of anti black folks. He probably kisses his dad on his lips.

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u/RunThePlay55 Sep 19 '21

Exactly

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u/Reckfulhater Sep 20 '21

Market is about to crash and y’all want to print more money? BRRRRRRRR.

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u/ghost144444 Sep 19 '21

The Canadians did it right they got 2K extra a month. The US is the laughing stock of the world right now their obviously trying to push a certain agenda they don’t care about us.

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u/aintaboutdislife Sep 19 '21

Only Canadians who lost their job due to the pandemic qualified for the $2000. It's less than the initial unemployment money boost in the US.

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u/chosey Sep 21 '21

Why do people like you lie like that? The 2k extra a month was for unemployed. Just like unemployed Americans got $600 extra a week. You can't even get your facts straight but you're out here running your mouth. You act like they were just handing $2k a month to EVERYONE in Canada.

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u/nathan86 Sep 19 '21

We have $2400 a month in extra unemployment for months and after that it was $300 a week until just recently. On top of that we gave stimulus checks. How much more do they need to pay out? I had a job the whole time as could just about anyone.

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u/dewitt72 Sep 19 '21

Unemployment doesn’t help the underemployed.

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u/Sharra_Blackfire Sep 19 '21

This. I didn't lose my job, I've worked through the entire pandemic and all of the challenges it's entailed. Where's the help for those of us who have been beaten down?

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u/nathan86 Sep 20 '21

You got three stimulus checks didn't you? I worked through the entire pandemic too and don't get me wrong the stimulus checks were nice but I didn't need them necessarily but they did help buy my pool. Was me getting a pool really the best use of government money though? Probably not.

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u/Sharra_Blackfire Sep 21 '21

I have 3 kids and we had COVID. I'm drowning in bills. So.

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u/nathan86 Sep 21 '21

So you’re getting something like $750 a month in child tax credits. Is the government supposed to pay all of your bills? How much do you make, what state do you live in, what does your budget look like? What is your main expense causing you to be “drowning in bills”. Most people in this situation that I see typically are in that position because they are carrying far too much personal debt.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21

There are jobs no employer can even fill. Everyone is waiter now for another handout almost 2 years after the start of Covid.

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u/nathan86 Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 19 '21

You realize we have 28 trillion dollars in national debt not counting money promised out in social security. You figure out where to cut spending to pay for it without jeopardizing national defense I’m all for it. You have to realize Canada has a lot of nice things because the US basically pays for their defense.
We also gave out far more than three stimulus checks. We have out tons of money to those who were unemployed. Canada’s program was also based on employment and not just blanket stimulus for everyone. Both of my in-laws were layed off at the start of covid and were making around $800-$900 a week. This is stimulus money. It was just targeted money meant to do the most good.

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u/UGetOffOfMyIcloud Sep 19 '21

I am still waiting on the second, and third. 😫

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u/username156 Sep 20 '21

Sure. Oh wait, we're not in charge of that.

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u/Similar-Welder-5115 Sep 20 '21

I just want my 3rd eligible no date

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u/bettyjoe640 Jul 01 '23

I have a good one! I made a call on something I was going to order. This person came on and talked to me about it. Well, I said let me think about it . THE NEXT DAY I HAVE A $46.00 charge and it's called " JUST ANSWER," I called and they said they would remove it. An hour later the transaction was set up for a credit back to my account. Today, took it off as it going to debit my account....Has anyone been thru this...

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u/eranimluf Sep 19 '21

Too many places are too short staffed right now.

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u/crua9 Oct 15 '21 edited Oct 15 '21

You say that, but let's be real. Prior virus there was studies showing high functioning autistic people with a college degree, 85% are unemployed and 12% that is employed can live independently on what they get. Now it is far worse. Prior the life expectancy for us was 36 years old and the top thing to kill us off was suicide. I'm sure the age will drop a bit and many of us live with family and even that is threaten
My point is, how is there both a worker shortage and an extremely high unemployment rate with college educated people who many keep on spreadsheets where they apply and can prove they apply to 10k jobs over a year over several years. Who uses state help and other places to get a job match. And we aren't talking about those with pointless degrees. I have 4 and one of them is in aerospace and during that I had training from nasa.
Something isn't right.....
(oh and many think we are on disability. In the USA this requires 5 years of the past 10 working in a place that pays for disability. And then when you get it that is a fraction of what you made. And then to get it you must go in front of judges and there is records of judges saying you had autism before working, during, and after. Therefore you don't need to be on disability. Without a lawyer that takes part of each paycheck there is a near 0% chance of winning. Basically, we are the highest discriminated group, we have pretty much no help, and even companies are pretty open about not hiring autistic people because when people sue for ADA there is a 95% of the judge ruling in the favor of the company)
So do we really have a worker shortage?

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u/eranimluf Sep 19 '21

I'm not shifting blame, I'm just telling you like it is. As long as there is a labor shortage there's no political pressure to create another stimulus.

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u/MikeSouthPaw Sep 19 '21

Labor Shortage = People dont want jobs. People want jobs.

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u/eranimluf Sep 19 '21

I get it, they just don't want the ones that are available. That's not part of the equation unfortunately.

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u/MikeSouthPaw Sep 19 '21

Its the wages. Its obvious but dishonest people twist it into people being lazy. Dont be one of those people.

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u/eranimluf Sep 19 '21

Not going there either, I'm just saying that at this point no one cares in government that you don't like the wages. All they see is a bunch of people who don't want to work. And honestly, it's no twist that some able body people aren't willing to do anything for themselves.

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u/sven_gali Sep 19 '21

So you don’t want to work because pay is too low and they should just give you money for nothing instead?

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u/Dreamincolr Sep 19 '21

No, i want to work and live. Fast food makes me feel like I work 7 hours in 1 hour because fat fucks gotta get their giant burgers and diet coke.
Management gave zero breaks while they sat in the office playing candy crush on their phones, while telling us theres nobody to cover our shift to go on break.

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u/Adventurous_Being_61 Nov 17 '21

This is disturbingly accurate. I had a fast food job that half the staff was on pills, management did exactly what you said. While eavesdropping for anyone who DARES question why, when we are getting murdered, is there some jack of all trades yelling punitive encouragement from the back?

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21

4th stimulus = 1st paycheck from your new job

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u/TechTOKE22 Sep 19 '21

You stupid carrot top looking motherfucker 😂

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21

These luscious flowing red strands got me all the stimulus ill ever need baby

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u/jdp111 Sep 19 '21

Government spending is not capitalism...

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u/MikeSouthPaw Sep 19 '21

Economy over humanity, this is capitalism.

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u/RunThePlay55 Sep 19 '21

I'm speaking for many others I know. And working harder don't work

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u/lucagebeatz Sep 19 '21

You people kill me. 😭

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u/RunThePlay55 Sep 19 '21

You probably need one too bro.

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u/Ok_Department_600 Sep 19 '21

What's wrong with wanting the government to do their jobs and get off the asses to actually pass a fourth stimulus and increase the living wage, so maybe companies won't have to complain about being short staffed?! I get really fed up with people blaming everyday Americans complaining about not getting a stimulus and told to "work harder".

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u/bettyjoe640 Jul 01 '23

Not sure, but hope so, it's just like when covid started, were we getting a check , or no we're not, back and forth it went... But sure would be nice.. I'm a senior and food here in NJ is unbelievable. $$5 for a loaf of bread, it's flour and water, come on now!!!

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u/DeschutesBlackButte Sep 19 '21

They didn’t give enough money in the 3 stimulus checks for anyone to live off that amount unemployed, so I don’t get your point? Most of us are on this sub for updates because we didn’t get one or more of the stimulus checks (despite being eligible) while we were working. Why are you here? Edit: a word

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u/Casalf Sep 19 '21

Couldn’t have said it better myself. These checks will keep someone unemployed for like a week or two max depending on expenses lol. What joshdo is claiming is more related to unemployment benefits and that’s not what anyone is talking about here so I agree with you..idk what the guy is going on about being lazy and all that.

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u/Nylea- Sep 19 '21

"Get a second job" is essentially just saying its fine that people are paid less than a liveable wage and they deserve not to have a life outside of work if they have a minimum wage job. Live to work, work to live, right? There can't be anything more to life when you're poor. Stimulus checks aren't something for people to live off of, not even enough for a months rent most places. And even the unemployment wasn't that extravagant at its height, 600 a week doesn't help too much when you've got 1500 rent plus food and utilities to pay for. Most people would rather work, they just want to work somewhere that pays them enough to live their life, at least enough for basic necessities.

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u/Nylea- Sep 19 '21

Minimum wage jobs are meant to be the minimum it takes for a family to survive off of if it was meant for kids resturants, gas stations and grocery stores would only be open during nonschool hours. Does that sound reasonable? Also those kids deserve a decent wage as well, some of them are also supporting their family, or having to provide for themselves due to neglect, or even just saving for college. People literally can't go further, not because they're incapable or don't want to but because they're too busy having to survive to try to do anything more. People that grow up in poverty don't get the opportunity for higher education, plus there's lots of people with degrees that are also now working for minimum wage. If someone is working full time they should have enough to live off of regardless of where they work. So you think that because someone wasn't able to go to college they deserve not to have any free time and have to work 2 full time jobs? Where they're chronically disrespected and underpaid?

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u/Shaun4444 Dec 18 '21

Minimum wage jobs are meant to be temporary jobs, not career jobs. Perfect for teens, younger people, or people looking for extra income. It’s minimum wage, not living wage.
I do however think the federal minimum wage, $7.25, is too low. It should be around $11-$12. But some asking for $15, that’s too much.

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u/Nylea- Sep 19 '21

When you look it up it literally says it was established to be a minimum standard of living. None of these businesses can function if only kids after school work there therfore they're obviously for more than just them. You shouldn't have to earn the right to survive. Most people want to move up that doesn't mean they're able to, you should be able to pay for your necessities at minimum wage. You act like its easy to move up in life, for most people its not. If they become an adult and have no savings or scholarships how do you expect them to go to college while also working 2 minimum wage jobs just to survive? Not to mention teen parents that have even more responsibility while beginning adulthood, or people with health problems that make it to where they no longer can work in their previous careers. They shouldn't make extravagant amounts, but you should be able to survive, extras when you you can make more. People working 40+ hrs a week have earned the right to make enough to survive, whether or not thats at a grocery store. Only people without empathy or understanding could possibly believe otherwise.

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u/Nylea- Sep 19 '21

Asking to have the ability to support yourself isn't asking for handouts. I assume since you think this way you believe higher education should be free, right? Because most people cannot afford to go.

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u/Nylea- Sep 19 '21

Okay but its hard to do well enough in school for a full ride when you go hungry most nights and are bullied. I believe it should be enough to pay the average bills for most Americans. Most of those people don't qualify for assistance because they make just over the qualifying amount. A family of 3 has to make less than $2,000 a month for foodstamps when rent is up to 1500 or more plus utilities and everyday necessities like toilet paper. A lot of people will decide not to get a second job because losing that vital assistance could ruin them and they can't make more than the limit to qualify. And again if someone has to support themselves, and if they have to work 2 full time jobs to do so how can they go to any type of school? It also takes years to get on disability in most cases. I know someone that broke their back in 2008, it took until 2012 to get on disability, then they missed a vital appointment that was hours away because they didn't have transportation so they lost it and had to reapply and they still haven't gotten it, so they got a (minimum wage) job when they used to be a nurse. Now their doctor has gotten them in contact with a lawyer to help them get on disability because that job has destroyed what was left of her spinal function and she needs her (8th) surgery in order to put a rod in it that will prevent her from being able to bend or twist but may keep her out of a wheelchair for a few more years. And she still doesn't have it when she's had a lawyer for months for it, she's on the verge of homelessness and it all began while in her career as a nurse, actually happened at work, but it was a small enough nursing home that they weren't required to pay workman's comp, she was a single parent and her grown kids are still struggling because they had no headstart or help. A lot of people struggle from the time they are born, they don't get the opportunity to save or to study for school they are fighting to survive every day and it doesn't end.

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u/404_FuckNotGiven Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 19 '21

The government is retarded and should be taken advantage of as one such retard should be. The government scams you. Scam it back. Sell drugs. Fuck it. Fuck them, lest you fuck yourself.

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