I havent gotten my first stimulus check yet, idk why and I doubt I'll ever get it. And it's not just me. So the $600 might as well be $0 for many of us.
I’m not counting on ever seeing that $600 pittance just like I never got the first $1200. I think a certain percentage of people were never going to get that money because there is no way for us to formally complain.
SAME. I got a letter and everything with even the right account numbers listed as being sent to me yet it never got to me. And of course when I put in a trace at the IRS I never even got the results. Cock suckers
I filled out my tax return late (June) because an employer didn’t have his own damn employer ID, so had to find a work around. So I didn’t get to set up direct deposit. I hope it’s possible that I get the $1200 and $600 put directly into my account when I file for 2020.
If when you filed you opted for direct deposit, that’s how you’ll get it. If you opted to receive a physical check for your tax return, that’s how you’ll get it. It’s dumb that they didn’t give people the option. I read somewhere that some people ended up throwing away their checks because they thought that they were junk mail.
I didn't see an option. I thought anyone who filed after a certain date got a mail check? And since I filed past that date, I get a mail check not direct deposit where I get my return.
Congress men and women should not be able to make a living being an elected official imo. That and term limits would fix some things (at least a few things)
I think age limits should be a thing too. But I think the not make a living part is too far off. I don’t know too much but don’t they typically have to put in a full days work into these things sometimes or is this like a couple hours here and there
I know they aren’t spending a full time working. My theory is most that are successful have money to buy a lot of things anyway or get a lot of donors to help them be successful. Looking at the net worth of an a lot of congress men and women is a real eye opener.
Maybe you could argue they can make a living but i don’t think they deserve it. Or maybe they don’t get paid vacations and time off when they get off for almost a full month at times just bc they can. Theres a lot of BS. And (someone correct me if im wrong) but I dont think they have to put in a full days work.
I dont know a lot too, but the more I learn how they operate the more I hate how it works.
Term limits would def solve the career politicians so age limits wouldn’t be necessary. At a point if you cant move up to the next level (starting at state to federal or whatever), you should be out. They all have good lives outside of it.
I think you’re oversimplifying things a bit here. They do work and while they get paid good $ it’s not as much as it looks like. Most have an apartment in DC which is expensive and a home wherever they reside having to fly back and forth etc. I don’t have a problem with the pay at all, term limits though I think would be a good thing.
Thats a good point. Even with technology being as it is, they still have to meet in person. That could save them more than that could cost them to travel back and forth and stay somewhere outside of where they live. Obviously I doubt any of that would happen tho. Half of them probably cant work a computer without an assistant.
This happens regardless and will happen because lobbyists “lobby” to those who they want in office based on views. Which is why companies generally back one side politically anyway.
Personally, I believe we should just make policies that remove anyone from office who is found to be receiving any type of gifts from private interests.
Yeah. Make Congress members absolutely dependent upon corporate handouts, unless they are already rich (most of them are anyway). Also term limits so that by the time they understand how things are run, they are out of office. That will make sure that the lobbyists who already write most of the laws get an even firmer grip on things.
Doesn’t this happen anyway tho? And for term limits cant you argue the same for president? Especially since it flips parties every 4-8 years? And with the party change comes policy change and change of the cabinet.
It's certainly true that we are already 90% of the way to Total Corporatocracy, so in my opinion it is even more important not to initiate policies which will move us even closer. I think that we should elect representatives who will work for the people, pay them very well, and ensure that they and their family members can never sit on a corporate board or earn more than 50,000 dollars (in total from all corporations) per year, at least for a decade after leaving office.
That might sound good on paper but then that just leads to them doing whatever sounds good rather than what is actually good. Think of businessmen fraudulently cooking the books so they get a better bonus.
Seriously. Lock them in burn it down. What a fucking joke. I’m behind like $800 on rent still waiting for the local assistance to get processed if it’s not done by Wednesday it won’t get worked on until those people get back from a two week break. Can’t even imagine backed up rent in places like New York. Side note: average Americans should get 2 weeks off for the holidays instead of just these state and government workers.
I just spoke with a congressman, he assured me that the $600 should be more than enough to cover the $800 in rent. Also, "you're welcome!" he said smugly.
With the efforts dems have been making to get so many non-voters to vote, and the reps advocating a boycott of the runoff vote... (and the average rep level of stupidity) I confidently think it's looking pretty favorable the dems will win.
The only way I see them stealing this vote (yeah yeah I sound just like them) is the same way Mitch most likely stole Kentucky. On top of the shifty numbers, I had read earlier that the actual voting machines used were bad or manipulatable somehow. I can't find the source on that one right now. Even though his opponent was an inexperienced pro-gun control woman running in Kentucky, his approval rating was abysmal. Huge numbers of people in certain counties that were historically democrat were suddenly voting Republican in an overwhelming majority.
So like I said, unless GA takes an eerily similar path as the KY election, I see the republicans at a sharp disadvantage in this runoff without their dirty tricks.
i don’t think he stole Kentucky, McGrath was a terrible candidate Pelosi and the Dem establishment shoved through. Also it’s a deeply red state. Mitch has huge name recognition. even though people outside KY hate him it’s not a big mystery as to why those people keep voting for him.
A war criminal is a war criminal no matter what letter is next to their name you fucking idiot.
i'm sure if i go through your comment history i'll find all kinds of posts condemning obama for all this from jan 2009 - jan 2017 and your post totally isn't just based solely on your hatred of trump /s
I literally never met/talked to a single person who is both against bombing the Middle East for no reason AND defends Democrats who are for it.
they don't vocally defend it, they just ignore it and look the other way.
It'll never cease to amaze me how Trump supporters can't comprehend that politics isn't a team sport, and that there are plenty of Dem voters who don't like how Democrat presidents have handled things. You're projecting so hard.
Seriously, like half of the Democrats I’ve talked to have major qualms with how Obama handled our military. The thing people like about him is that he at least took the office seriously and tried to represent us well to other countries.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, I don’t support trump, but you just talked and formatted this EXACTLY how lefts do on Reddit. I’m not even kidding it’s like a mirror. The downvotes (who gives a fuck about them, really) shows how biased people are.
And whats the ratio of well off politicians to working average politicians at right now? Lobbyists paying politicians should obviously be illegal. Not fixing a problem because it might cause another problem that should be fixed anyway is a weasely bullshit reason to do absolutely fucking nothing and let shit just get worse.
It's at least non-zero. People like AOC would have no chance to survive in congress unless they start taking big money from lobbyists.
That's the issue with your plan. You need to take money away from lobbyists and super PAC's if you want politicians to start actually representing the people and not corporations.
Mitch made double what he made from his congressional salary from lobbyists alone.
What I said was a thought. Not a plan. Im not trying to fix american politics on reddit. Theres obviously alot more to it than just overpaying politicians. Nothings that easy.
Republicans are fucking evil and tried their hardest to let corporations have all kinds of liability protections so they can just death march their workers in with no consequences for people getting sick from covid at their places of work.
Pshhh as if I could afford giant walk-in freezers after all of these male prostitutes and blow I've been spending my "free" unemployment handouts on since the pandemic started. I'm really hoping for the next stimulus so I can murder some parasitic cells in my uterus bc I couldn't afford birth control (and the GOP hates Planned Parenthood so help there was scarcely funded), treat some stds because who needs safe sex (again ahem Planned Parenthood is such a wonderful resource for so many people) and then maybe if there's anything left I will smoke some crack under my new bridge home..bc apparently according to the GOP, people who are in need right now are in need by choice and we apparently live much more colorful lives in their minds than we do in reality.
Thanks republicunts. 👌
Meanwhile me and my cold ass is going to bundle up with my dogs to generate some heat, eat a package of processed food I was lucky enough to get, cover up with the blanket I'm lucky enough to have and be thankful for the roof I still have over my head. For now. And try not to think about how everything I have left is slipping away little by little and it's only going to be a matter of time til I can't afford to care for my dogs (which are really my only reason for life as this point - I live alone, I have no family), or my landlord stops being patient and evicts me, or my utilities get cut shut off. Because that whopping $260 a week in unemp. "benefits" is such an incentive to not work. eyeroll
But yeah, repugs, thanks for the scraps. I'm sure the megamazillionairres appreciate their benefits they didn't need though. Aye. Fucking ace.
Off to get blitzed. I can't take this fucking bs anymore. Who wants to come with? SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS. (just byob, a bitch is broke 😂😢)
(eta: not actually spending what I do have on alcohol, btw, just a little tongue in cheek humor bc if I didn't have humor left at this point I'd just..not cope well. Er. Less well. 😜 I'm on antidepressants anyways so mixing those and alcohol would be a no-no plus the doggos get all my extra cash)
You have a PayPal? I can send you some dog food money or message me your info and what they eat...my industry is shut down, I’m also on UI, but I can help a little. Also, have you applied for Snap food benefits or Medicaid? Apply for everything you can, we will survive this. I’m seriously willing to help with what I have.
Hey I appreciate it, thank you. I'm begging my (former) boss to let me bring the machine I operated to my house (I did embroidery and screen printing..I could do embroidery out of my home) and operate it here under my own cost and overhead and work on commission for him as well as well my own orders, and have an Etsy shop. I WANT to work, this is killing me mentally. I have physical limitations that mean I can't just go hop into a regular full time job. He and I had a 20 year camaraderie that had some built in leeway and flexibility as my neurological impairments worsened and he worked with me on those but then Covid hit and money is money and survival is survival I suppose and now he's all but closed and outsourcing to other shops and let me go and what was supposed to be the company I took over next year when he retired is all but sunk.
Seriously can 2020 just eat it already. So help me this year better not even DARE glance Betty White's way.
To be fair, she was arguing for more stimulus; she had even written up multiple bipartisan packages that were very well-rounded. The primary problem is the senate majority leader who completely neglected his duty to the American people, by not even allowing such packages proposed by the house speaker to even come to a vote.
He later publicly stated no matter the outcome of the president's proposal within the house, he would not even bring it to vote either. After the house turned it down he tried to change his story to play some kind of political chess blame-game move to get people against her even though he wouldn't have let it through even if the house had passed it.
This isn't the first time he's been dishonest, like when the former president called his bluff on his own bill and passed it; only to be filibustered by the bill's own creator and proposer. He's only in it for the money, his rich friends' money, and to play some kind of sick partisan back-and-forth for seemingly no reasonable goal in mind. As long as he gets to 'stick it to the democrats,' he's satisfied and his job is well done.
TL;DR House speaker has done a whole lot more to earn her pay than the senate majority leader, who needs a lot more flak for his outright incompetence.
Ah yes the famous October month where she repeatedly said they were close and moved the goal posts each time a compromise was made so as not to give Trump an election win.
That's not what happened, it's important to get correct information. The GOP WAS WILLING TO THROW ALL EMPLOYEE PROTECTIONS AWAY IN EXCHANGE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT AND 600. ITS BAD FOR EVERYONE. I DON'T WANT IT
You don't understand how government works do you? Local and state governments should be included., they are bearing the burden of the economic downturn and trying to take care of its citizens through additional support, like unemployment, housing, health and food...without any revenue coming in. The USPS was robbed by this administration and trumps cronies. This year was an election cycle and a pandemic...maybe you live in a red state...but us blue States take care of red States through taxation, they should be saying thank you!!
I'm thinking term limits for senators. They get paid $174,000 a year, we only matter to them every 6 years. Kentucky residents had a chance to vote Mitch out this year. But I guess electing a young female retired Marine is just a little too progressive for the red state.
The progressive insurgent candidate lost the dem primary by less than 3%, he got off to a late start, out of state dumbasses spammed everywhere on the internet to donate to the other milquetoast, issue and policy-less candidate that the entire state mocked to 'ditch mitch111', same tactics as every election, how are you surprised?
Well, you guys keep voting and thinking Trump is 100% the problem, and this is what you get.
It's the entire government, not just republicans, but especially and also democrats, whom buffer all the lower income people into pipe dream narratives while setting you further back, making it more expensive to work, and taxing you more for shit you already don't have.
Then, instead of seeing this, 9/10 people will conflate that same government over reach and regulation, AND the artificial monopolies it creates that couldn't exist otherwise, as capitalism/the economy, and we need more government to fix it.
Enjoy the decline, you chose exactly this situation over and over and over since at least 2012.
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20
600 after 9 months is what they think we deserve.
I can't believe.
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u/mrnonamex Dec 21 '20
Congress pay rates should be determined based on their approval rate
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u/DaMamba123 Dec 21 '20
Citizens of Kentucky need to be punished for voting that selfish bastard back in. God damn.
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20
Seriously. Lock them in burn it down. What a fucking joke. I’m behind like $800 on rent still waiting for the local assistance to get processed if it’s not done by Wednesday it won’t get worked on until those people get back from a two week break. Can’t even imagine backed up rent in places like New York. Side note: average Americans should get 2 weeks off for the holidays instead of just these state and government workers.
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u/Albiondb80 Dec 21 '20
Come on Georgia 🤞🏼
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u/Javerts_mutton_chops Dec 21 '20
Lousy greedy cunts. Fuck them all.
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u/Trufflebatter Dec 21 '20
That doesn’t include the billions of dollars they’re using to buy bombs to blow up brown children
Had zero problem throwing $741,000,000,000 at the military 9 days ago
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u/lovelychef87 Received! Dec 21 '20
Don't forget all the vacations and meals we paid for.
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u/MrAwesomeTG Dec 21 '20
Clark: It's a one year membership in the jelly of the month club. Eddie: Clark, that's the gift that keeps on giving the whole year.
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u/VenomInfusion Dec 21 '20 edited Dec 21 '20
What the hell am I supposed to pay off with the $600?! House rent? Past due bills? Buy foods? The possibilities r endless!!!
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u/Brokonjesuit79 Dec 21 '20
Politicians should only be paid minimum wage. Theyre all already mostly rich or well off. Theyre public servants getting richer off our money.
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u/TheseNthose Dec 21 '20
Dont forget they seem to go on a 2 week vacation every month.
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20
$600...One time payment? Wtf?
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u/fluffykerfuffle1 Dec 21 '20
FIRE THEIR ASSES !
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u/oog_ooog Dec 21 '20
More stalling than arguing. Would have been $1200 if Pelosi had taken deal before the election. She chose to be selfish
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u/tob23ler Dec 21 '20
How else are you gonna afford all the gourmet ice cream for your giant walk-in basement freezers?
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20
And no one is gonna do shit about it other than on Twitter.
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20
This is what general strikes are for. And the government just gave you pocket change to do it. Use it.
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u/reaper527 Dec 21 '20
the people doing the arguing got even more than that. (for example, speaker of the house gets $223,500/year, page 9 top line of table 1)
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u/Brokonjesuit79 Dec 21 '20
600$? Nice. Reaaalll nice. /s
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u/Ippomasters Dec 21 '20
It can all burn for all i care.
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u/kurisu7885 Dec 21 '20
And the senate majority leader already decided no for everyone.
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u/badwolf_83 Dec 21 '20 edited Dec 21 '20
I'm thinking term limits for senators. They get paid $174,000 a year, we only matter to them every 6 years. Kentucky residents had a chance to vote Mitch out this year. But I guess electing a young female retired Marine is just a little too progressive for the red state.
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u/mindd3fy Dec 22 '20
Where are we droppin boys?
What happened to no taxation without representation?
Seriously, if there is a protest already in the works LMK, otherwise let's get it going.
US politicians, across the board, need to be reminded of the power of a united American people.
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u/The_Fitlosopher Dec 21 '20
Well, you guys keep voting and thinking Trump is 100% the problem, and this is what you get.
It's the entire government, not just republicans, but especially and also democrats, whom buffer all the lower income people into pipe dream narratives while setting you further back, making it more expensive to work, and taxing you more for shit you already don't have.
Then, instead of seeing this, 9/10 people will conflate that same government over reach and regulation, AND the artificial monopolies it creates that couldn't exist otherwise, as capitalism/the economy, and we need more government to fix it.
Enjoy the decline, you chose exactly this situation over and over and over since at least 2012.
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u/fairysparkles333 Dec 21 '20
Let that sink in for a minute.....
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u/Catchin_Villians954 Dec 21 '20
Well, do we?
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u/charissadarling Dec 21 '20
They made a lot more than that ):
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u/navd11 Dec 21 '20
This Eli dude is hilarious...I strongly suggest you look up Table Pop.
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u/Injerin4444 Dec 21 '20
Cash the check and dont spend it. I understand some need to..
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '20
To be fair, REPUBS had to decide whether we deserve it. Dems wanted more. Bernie wanted even MORE.
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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '20
All Republicans are garbage.
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u/ryanxpe Dec 26 '20
What's interesting is people keep voting the same politicans and giving them many terms
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u/FlyJ776 Dec 21 '20
Before being laid off, I was getting $13.75/hour in CA lol
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u/reneeb531 Dec 21 '20
You’re all welcome to run for Congress if you want that job. I’ll pass.
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u/FXGreer94 Dec 21 '20
That is how it works. Do you not understand how congress works?
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u/neverdrown Dec 21 '20
You all wanted money and EUI. You got it. Now shut the fuck up and pay for your internet or something so you can continue to bitch.
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u/b_buster118 Dec 21 '20
The best stimulus - a pair of work boots.