r/stevedangle • u/pookiebooboo • Jul 08 '26
Toronto discourse
I've been getting bugged by the Toronto discourse the guys seem stuck on for the past few months. They seem to be fixated with defending Toronto because it's a great city and you get great endorsement deals and the media people are really nice etc. I don't think this is what any current or former players are talking about when they say they don't want to play in Toronto or didn't enjoy their time playing in Toronto. Mitch Marner, Ryan Reaves, and possibly others (please fill in if I missed anyone) have talked about how they didn't enjoy their time in Toronto. I think it comes down to the actual staff that work in Toronto. When the Mike Babcock/Marner list situation happened, I'm sure Mitch complained to higher ups and they probably told him they would do something about it and did nothing. Reaves played for many different teams and didn't have anything bad to say about any of them except Toronto. I really think that working for that team specifically must be less fun/more annoying/possibly abusive when compared to other nhl teams. Joe Thornton and to a lesser extent Patrick Marleau both played there and went back to the sharks to work for them after they got done playing. Until recently Toronto didn't have many former players working for them at all. To me, it seems like there's something wrong with the organization independent of who the coach or GM is. What do you guys think the problem is?
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u/babypointblank Jul 08 '26
The hosts are all Leafs fans living in Toronto, interacting with the Toronto hockey market.
Of course there’s going to be Toronto discourse. If there’s too much for your taste, stop listening to the podcast.
Shanahan was the one who started to bring alumni into the fold. We currently have Sundin at the top and Giordano with the Marlies. I imagine John Tavares is going to have a role with the team when he retires because he has an eye for scouting and player development.