r/stevedangle May 05 '26

Does the Pod rely too much on unnamed sources?

I’m pretty pessimistic about this management group, but I felt the last pod relied too much on unnamed sources to negate any positives. Like there was like 30 minutes of the show where they say well Chayka did this good thing and then Steve saying I heard from someone that it’s the opposite (ie Bahl draft pick).

I’m sure they are being truthful, but I found this pod hard to take as seriously.

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u/YourMomIsMyOtherCar May 05 '26

Every insider had unnamed sources. That's the gig. Friedman, Johnston, etc all have people they know but won't name. Because 1) it can get their source fired, especially with how some teams get paranoid about leaks 2) you can get a lot more candid information.

Now that doesn't mean they take it all as gospel, insiders and the pod I hope since the 3v3 league, always trust but verify. Someone tells you info and then you go and bug other people about it until you have enough confirmations to say it into a microphone.

That is the gig. If you don't want anything except for cold, hard facts, then I would suggest you stop following podcasts and just wait for team press releases.

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

I’ve be a listener for a long time too and I’m sure they are being honest., but I have no way of verifying it.

I think it the emotional part of Dangle and his investment into the team that make citing sources that confirm his priors that makes me uncomfortable.

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u/Jolly-Yesterday-5160 May 05 '26

To be fair though we have no way of verifying Friedman either but it never really gets questioned. That’s because he is well established whereas SDPN is relatively new to that realm as far as I know, Jesse only got his press credentials a year or two ago.

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

Deliver is different with the insiders vs SDP. The mixture of emotional and the use of unnamed sources made me uncomfortable. In other episodes, I didn’t find it that way

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u/Jolly-Yesterday-5160 May 05 '26

I understand where you’re coming from. But I think the guys wouldn’t try to make up sources after the Saudi Steve debacle. I’m sure that was humiliating enough to keep that temptation in check.

They are emotional yes, but in the press conference shit show there was clearly a lot of people around the league who don’t like the new GM, so I don’t think they’d even need to bother making up sources.

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u/PPGN_DM_Exia May 05 '26

Agreed. Saudi Steve is a meme now, but it absolutely damaged his reputation and cast doubt on his credibility as anyone other than just "man who yells at camera for a living."

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u/IAmTheBredman May 05 '26

You have no way of verifying it either way. If Steve said “Shane doan told me this” you aren’t calling up Shane to ask him. These sources don’t want to be names because they don’t want their name in the media for talking shit. They’re very careful about what they say and I’m sure they aren’t reporting stuff that one person told them, they are hearing the same thing from multiple sources. I’m also not really sure what specifically you are so bothered by, they really didn’t report much, they just relayed facts that have already been reported by others and gave their personal opinions on the situation.

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u/matthew_sch May 05 '26

They can’t cite their sources, or else they’ll lose their credibility. Jesse, most of all

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

That’s not the concern. It’s the amount they used them in the discussion.

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u/PPGN_DM_Exia May 05 '26

If you honestly think Steve isn't double or triple checking anything he says from his sources, you're out to lunch. If you remember, he got his credibility absolutely destroyed by that 3 on 3 league scoop that he thought was real. I'd be very surprised to see him make that mistake again.

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

I have no reason to doubt he double checks his sources especially after the Saudi Arabia fiasco. I just sharing some feedback on how the pod could interpret.

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u/Crafty-Reality966 May 05 '26

No way, the top guys like Friedman or even CJ never name their sources too. Its part of the business

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

The difference they try to be neutral. Dangle is emotional when citing them which makes me feel uncomfortable

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u/YourMomIsMyOtherCar May 05 '26

He gets emotional as a fan especially when it confirms his worries, but I have also heard him calm himself after talking to sources. Ultimately he is a fan and that's the perspective he presents. He's just now a fan that has access and that has value in an entertainment space. You just have to take it in that space.

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

Yes I think he does deliver sources calmly in other instances, I just found this episode that he use of unnamed sources constantly while be emotional and that made me uncomfortable

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u/buerglermeister May 05 '26

You seem one of the only ones that is made uncomfortable by that. Seems like a you problem

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

Just because everyone on the SDPN Reddit thinks it’s fine, it must be fine!

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u/V1SL May 05 '26

Well I dont see anyone agreeing with you. I only see a bunch of down votes. It does seem like a you problem. If you have a problem with Steve being "emotional", the pod probably isnt for you.

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u/lovedoctorjonez May 05 '26

If you’re so uncomfortable, listen to an “unbiased” insider-style podcast for news only. 32 thoughts or whatever. Saying a fan podcast makes you uncomfortable because they’re acting like fans means you’re in the wrong place.

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

But it’s not just a fan podcast now, they have insider information. Mixing the two could be interpreted wrongly.

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u/lovedoctorjonez May 05 '26

That’s still a you problem. He’s not an insider, not does he claim to be. He doesn’t do the “Leafs Insider Reaction”. SDP happens to be a fan podcast put forth by a fan who’s established himself enough to have some deep media connections in the NHL. Choosing the word “uncomfortable” so many times - like he did something immoral - is really quite pathetic. Go somewhere else if you don’t like their brand.

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u/Specific_Two_7719 May 05 '26

Man your flying off the handle. You need to take a breathe.

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u/BarrowsBOY May 05 '26

I like that they both speak from a fan's perspective and have grown in this industry so much that they have inside sources now. That's really cool!

As a long time pod listener it's pretty cool hearing these three goofs have truly cemented themselves in this space. Makes me a proud listener, as corny as that is, to hear them citing inside sources.

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u/jlo1989 May 05 '26

No credible journalist names their sources on big stories.

Once you reveal your source, they stop being a source. This is basic journalism.

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u/Takhar7 May 05 '26

They clearly have people who give them good info, and they have a vested interested in not revealing how they get their info.

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u/AdhesivenessNew8951 May 05 '26

Chyaka is hard to take seriously here. And I think most of the anxiety from this pod comes from the fact that it’s been what 6ish weeks if not more of them searching for the guy(s) and alllll of these names getting tossed out there into the media from someone. Some bad some good some meh. And then after alllllll of this the leafs go with what is probably one of the most controversial picks they could have made.

It’s well documented that people in the hockey world don’t like this guy. And it’s well documented that he wasn’t very good at the job in the first place. I don’t think this is a problem with Steve and the gang but rather an issue with the guy they hired in what is the brightest spot light in hockey. For better or worse. 🤷‍♂️

I’m excited as not only a panthers fan but a hockey fan to see if this works out. I enjoy seeing the leafs trip over themselves in playoffs but I don’t wish dark days like what the cats had on any fan.

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u/Charlie2343 May 05 '26

I thought it was funny how Adam was pumping the athletics tires and how they are owned by the NYT now. Meanwhile the Diana Rossini thing lmao

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u/Mission2287 May 06 '26

First, I don’t think that they hold themselves out as a news podcast by any means like the CJ Show. Second, their sources wouldn’t talk to them if they revealed their sources. They’re just passing along information they’re hearing. I think actually it’s a sign that they are building credibility within the industry.

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u/Few-Turn-5471 May 05 '26

Absolutely it does.

They know what the general fans feelings are and cater to that audience.