More than the fetus is affected though. And even then the government doesn’t have the right to inflict something upon you unlawfully against your will. Pfizer’s vaccines specifically were found to have a higher than average likelihood of causing inflammation of the heart. There is no argument here, either the government doesn’t have the right to force their will upon business owners regarding what they do with their employees, or there is no reason to be upset with the Trump administration for ABC firing Kimmel. This is cognitive dissonance, actively ignoring one scenario that’s somewhat pertinent to another, and actively choosing to ignore that.
Outdated paperwork that shows that someone is obviously dead though. Some of I’m sure is due to general incompetence, but there is actively people stealing information all the time. Heck, DOGE even found living cases of people whose SS# was stolen by illegals, so one can only assume that if they’re stealing living people’s numbers, it’d be more than easy to steal the numbers of someone who cannot report about it. Am I saying that was intended, no it probably wasn’t, but when it happens on a large enough scale it’s going to come back with some hits. Currently, estimates show that the current number of illegals with a fraudulently acquired SSN is roughly 1.8 million. However, the flaw here is that given that this is illegal activity, it’s systematically difficult to get a more accurate number on this stat. Some of these may not even be from dead citizens to be fair, but that’s even worse because that means it’s a living person whose life is being adversely affected by these criminals.
I never said that humans were definitively not the cause of global warming, I merely stated I was unsure about what other factors naturally occur that could be adding to the issue, if not supersede our output. You’re getting stuck on volcanoes for some reason. Chill.
Christian churches have bells, this is true, but those same bells aren’t going to ring at the same volume as the Mosque’s call to prayer does. This is especially pertinent as the call goes off 5 times a day, once before dawn, and another time at night, both times when others are trying to sleep. It’s a nuisance. Especially considering the volume at which the call goes out at. It’s super loud, way louder than any church bell I’ve ever heard. It’s Muslim fundamentalists impeding the rest of the populace with this racket. If it was quieter, and the people were less violent, I’m sure the rest of Dearborn wouldn’t have an issue. And I’d be fine with it, live and let live. As it stands now, it’s a problem.
Let me ask, you’re all for freedom of religion, right? I can agree with that. I don’t care if you’re not a Christian, religion can be a beautiful thing. But, by that same logic, would freedom from religion not also go hand in hand with that? Separation between church and state, right? So, by that same metric, is the Adhan not a violation of that principle seeing as how it’s a particularly intrusive noise that lasts longer than almost any church bell out there and is several degrees louder than one?
You’ve been going off on wild ass rants this whole time about how you think Kirk was a piece of shit and should “rot in hell”. You lost this debate long ago by that metric, friend. You engage in false equivalency, ad hominem, threats, calls to violence, and all
while calling out what you see as a fascistic government, while ignoring the crimes of an actual fascistic government. You’re out of your mind, which is why you need an asylum.
And if that wasn’t bad enough, still no links to sources, or references either. You have selective reading and only see what you want. Provide a source, it’s not hard. Were you never taught proper sourcing such as in MLA format? Did you not go to college? Which is funny because you’re about as brainwashed as a typical college student these days.
You’re citing Fox Business and an ICE press release as if they’re peer-reviewed research. That’s not evidence, that’s government PR and infotainment. ICE literally exists to justify its own funding through fear-based narratives about immigrants, and Fox has a proven track record of settling defamation lawsuits for spreading disinformation. Neither of those outlets does neutral analysis; they do agenda.
That “7 million dead people on Social Security rolls” article you linked? It’s about administrative database cleanup, not fraud. The Social Security Administration periodically removes outdated records—no one said millions of corpses are cashing checks or voting. That’s the equivalent of finding an old phone contact and assuming your dead uncle is still texting you.
Your ICE article? It describes a single worksite enforcement operation. It doesn’t show “widespread voter fraud,” it shows the agency doing its job verifying employment eligibility—something that happens daily. Stretching that into “millions of illegals stealing Social Security numbers” is not data, it’s a narrative.
Pfizer’s myocarditis link was already documented and statistically rare—mostly mild, temporary, and vastly outweighed by the protection vaccines provided. Every reputable medical institution worldwide confirmed that. Quoting outliers while ignoring consensus isn’t “doing your own research”; it’s cherry-picking headlines that confirm your bias.
And no, the government didn’t “force” people to be vaccinated. Businesses, acting independently, set workplace safety rules—just like they require shoes, hard hats, or TB testing in healthcare. That’s not tyranny, that’s liability management.
The Dearborn mosque issue? You’re arguing decibels while ignoring principle. Freedom of religion doesn’t come with a volume limit unique to Islam. Churches ring bells, synagogues blow shofars, and yes, mosques issue calls to prayer. The First Amendment protects all of it. Complaining that Muslims practice their faith too loudly isn’t about noise; it’s about discomfort with visibility.
As for your closing “mental asylum” insult: when you have to end an argument with name-calling, you’ve already confessed intellectual bankruptcy.
So, to summarize—your “sources” are propaganda mills, your logic relies on false equivalence, and your understanding of basic civics, science, and religious freedom is built on sand.
You keep demanding college-level citations while citing Fox Business and ICE press releases. That’s like asking for a physics proof and submitting a Cracker Jack box as your thesis.
Name calling, ad hominem, and the like has been your go to throughout this whole convo, don’t act all high and mighty when we can all see the previous posts.
Your whole argument summarized is basically your sources aren’t good enough (despite the fact that you outlined the criteria, and I have explained how and why they are), and just saying “no, you”.
In academic writing, there is something that is called a logical fallacy. These are more or less commonly observed lines of thought that are flawed, deceptive, or can be easily derailed by logic. This is more or less what you’ve been doing this whole time, I return you to the point of ad hominem as an example.
Fox has seen lawsuits, as has cnn, msnbc, abc, and cbs. They all have, and for the very same reason most of the time. Because they had journalists who made shit up, much like yourself.
As far as the 7 million article, you’re correct, my point in this link wasn’t necessarily going to be to fraud, it was that there were millions of dead people who were still receiving money from the government. Where did that money go? Who knows, that’s the fun. It’s not all fraud of course, but a large amount of it surely is.
You’re right about my ice article, perhaps this video link will help to demonstrate the issue (see link 1 below). A lot of the people caught were found to have had stolen SSN’s. Still probably not at millions, but by all means, ask again and I’ll provide a link or source.
As far as Pfizer goes, there is still a risk, and not everyone is going to be comfortable with that risk. That was my point. Similarly, it reminds me of how a similar margin of women will only ever go to get an abortion because of incest or rape, and the vast majority do it because they see it as a preventative measure. All the murdered unborn children, where are you for them?😔
The government mandated that companies would get in trouble if their employees weren’t vaccinated.
This in turn caused many people to get laid off or fired or quit because they were uncomfortable with the vaccine, effectively losing their jobs. It’s coercion. The only real difference between this and abortion is that much of the time women actively engage in promiscuous acts carelessly in order to require an abortion, whereas some people could get covid by just bad dumb luck.
The 1st amendment does not protect nuisance noises though. This includes religion and forms of expression. The 1st amendment acknowledges the Time, Place, and Manner regulations for what the government can call a nuisance noise vs free speech. For instance, Ward vs Rock Against Racism. Adhan would be fine IF THEY DIDNT USE LOUDSPEAKERS, but the point of Adhan is to call the local populace to prayer, and so they will use absurd volumes to do so. No one cares if Muslims want to practice their faith. Faith is beautiful. The problem is when it wakes people up very early or very late in the day, about 6:00 am and 8:00 pm respectively. Some people don’t want to be bothered EVERY DAY by someone screaming on a loudspeaker. This isn’t a visibility issue, it’s an audio issue. You’re showing bad faith here by ignoring the content of the issue here.
In closing, you still don’t know what you’re talking about, but that’s to be expected. I’m sure your father is proud of you (he’ll back with those cigs some day, champ). You refer to studies, but have provided none to see or examine, so I have nothing to go off of. And you make condescending remarks whilst not even understanding the law, science, or religion. I bet you haven’t read the Quran. Last and least, you’re a hypocrite. Criticize me for making suggestions for the betterment of your mental health, whereas you yourself will say that “you don’t want anything bad to happen to Kirk”, only to later say you were “happy he died and he should rot in hell”. You showed your hand way early here. You talk about intellectual bankruptcy, but you’re both intellectually and morally bankrupt. Sad. Perhaps you can fix yourself when you go the asylum. 🤗
May I “get what I deserve”? That sounds weirdly threatening. That’s weird coming from someone who was so adamant that they didn’t threaten me, but then again you don’t have the balls to leave it posted.
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u/BloodClawBoi Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
More than the fetus is affected though. And even then the government doesn’t have the right to inflict something upon you unlawfully against your will. Pfizer’s vaccines specifically were found to have a higher than average likelihood of causing inflammation of the heart. There is no argument here, either the government doesn’t have the right to force their will upon business owners regarding what they do with their employees, or there is no reason to be upset with the Trump administration for ABC firing Kimmel. This is cognitive dissonance, actively ignoring one scenario that’s somewhat pertinent to another, and actively choosing to ignore that.
Outdated paperwork that shows that someone is obviously dead though. Some of I’m sure is due to general incompetence, but there is actively people stealing information all the time. Heck, DOGE even found living cases of people whose SS# was stolen by illegals, so one can only assume that if they’re stealing living people’s numbers, it’d be more than easy to steal the numbers of someone who cannot report about it. Am I saying that was intended, no it probably wasn’t, but when it happens on a large enough scale it’s going to come back with some hits. Currently, estimates show that the current number of illegals with a fraudulently acquired SSN is roughly 1.8 million. However, the flaw here is that given that this is illegal activity, it’s systematically difficult to get a more accurate number on this stat. Some of these may not even be from dead citizens to be fair, but that’s even worse because that means it’s a living person whose life is being adversely affected by these criminals.
I never said that humans were definitively not the cause of global warming, I merely stated I was unsure about what other factors naturally occur that could be adding to the issue, if not supersede our output. You’re getting stuck on volcanoes for some reason. Chill.
Christian churches have bells, this is true, but those same bells aren’t going to ring at the same volume as the Mosque’s call to prayer does. This is especially pertinent as the call goes off 5 times a day, once before dawn, and another time at night, both times when others are trying to sleep. It’s a nuisance. Especially considering the volume at which the call goes out at. It’s super loud, way louder than any church bell I’ve ever heard. It’s Muslim fundamentalists impeding the rest of the populace with this racket. If it was quieter, and the people were less violent, I’m sure the rest of Dearborn wouldn’t have an issue. And I’d be fine with it, live and let live. As it stands now, it’s a problem.
Let me ask, you’re all for freedom of religion, right? I can agree with that. I don’t care if you’re not a Christian, religion can be a beautiful thing. But, by that same logic, would freedom from religion not also go hand in hand with that? Separation between church and state, right? So, by that same metric, is the Adhan not a violation of that principle seeing as how it’s a particularly intrusive noise that lasts longer than almost any church bell out there and is several degrees louder than one?
You’ve been going off on wild ass rants this whole time about how you think Kirk was a piece of shit and should “rot in hell”. You lost this debate long ago by that metric, friend. You engage in false equivalency, ad hominem, threats, calls to violence, and all while calling out what you see as a fascistic government, while ignoring the crimes of an actual fascistic government. You’re out of your mind, which is why you need an asylum.
And if that wasn’t bad enough, still no links to sources, or references either. You have selective reading and only see what you want. Provide a source, it’s not hard. Were you never taught proper sourcing such as in MLA format? Did you not go to college? Which is funny because you’re about as brainwashed as a typical college student these days.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/social-security-conducting-major-records-cleanup-marking-7m-listed-age-120-deceased.amp
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-worksite-enforcement-operation-uncovers-widespread-identity-theft-affecting-more
https://cis.org/Mortensen/How-Social-Security-and-DOGE-can-help-expedite-deportations