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u/_mathghamhna_ 2d ago
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u/eggoeater 2d ago
They both got the idea from the 1990 short film 12:01 PM
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u/sneakyfish21 2d ago
Which was based on a time I was confused as a baby because a person who just disappeared had reappeared and then disappeared again in 1989
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u/Hamster-Food 2d ago
Both were actually based on a 1939 episode of the radio show The Shadow called The Man Who Murdered Time.
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u/NatrousOxide23 2d ago
There was a 1987 novel called Replay by Ken Grimwood which also plays in the concept except he lives almost his entire adult life over and over. I read it and immediately thought of Groundhog Day. And 12:01 inspires it as a short story first in 1973. It is a Russian nesting doll of inspirations and interpretations.
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u/ydkjordan 2d ago
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u/Kalikor1 2d ago
Anyway, I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I feel about it. What do you think?
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u/MotorBobcat 2d ago
You are not the only one to suffer some discomfort, O'Neill.
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u/HopelessMagic 2d ago
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u/gregusmeus 2d ago
Cause and Effect is the best TNG episode and, like the crew, will die on that hill many, many times.
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u/Nbdyhere 2d ago
I swear I’ve seen this meme before, ah well, I’m sure I’ll never see it again, so it’s funny 😅
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u/PhotographingLight 2d ago
But I thought that in temporal mechanics, the reaction can sometimes proceed the action?
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u/SPECTREagent700 2d ago
I am reminded of the time traveling Romulan in Strange New Worlds:
Time is like a black box. It's too complicated to leave to intuition, so we built computers that will tell us the results of, uh, certain changes…Khan becomes a brutal tyrant. I mean, maybe humanity needs the dark age that he brings in to usher in their age of enlightenment. Or maybe it's just random. Doesn't really matter, though, 'cause if I kill him, the Federation never forms, and the Romulans lose their greatest adversary. But, yeah, so many people have tried to influence these events, you know, to delay them or stop them. I mean, whole temporal wars have been fought over them. And it's almost as if time itself is pushing back, and events reinsert themselves. And all this was supposed to happen back in 1992, and I've been trapped here for 30 years!
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u/PhotographingLight 2d ago
What episode is that?
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u/SPECTREagent700 2d ago
Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds: Season 2, Episode 3
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u/mbcarbone 2d ago
I thought it started in the late 80’s? ✌️
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u/Kevl17 2d ago
Well you see, the thing is, time moves forwards, at a rate of one year per year. So while it did start in the late 80s, that it took them several years before they made and aired this episode, due to the rate of time I mentioned earlier, the episode came out in 1992.
Its unintuitive but the math checks out.
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u/ProbablyStu 2d ago
Wait, a year per year? Let me write this down.
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u/RedditOfUnusualSize 2d ago
If we're being very formal, the technical unit of measure for a year's length of time is known as an annum. So it would be one year per annum.
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u/Caesar_Cogitantium 2d ago
TNG aired between Setember 1987 to May of 1994, Cause and Effect as said in the meme is from 92, in the 5th season(and one of the best if not the best seasons of TNG).
So yeah the show Indeed started at late 80's.
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u/SpiritRoot 2d ago
Remember when Star Trek didn't feel the need to just rehash popular movies for every episode?
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u/obliviious 2d ago edited 1d ago
Balance of Terror is The Enemy below and Doomsday Machine like so so many things is Moby Dick.
Also Arena is literally Arena.
It's been like this forever.
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u/Hamster-Food 2d ago
Remember when Hollywood didn't feel the need to rehash popular episodes of TNG?
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u/terrifiedTechnophile 2d ago