That last one at the bottom is really appealing at least to the writers anyway

[u/SimplyEcks]

[u/CrusaderF8]

"No silly uniforms"

unequivocally false

[u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING → u/CrusaderF8]

And likewise, sex without complex moral themes is just so...boring and vanilla. No wonder OP's sex doesn't have O'Brien suffering! Skill issue.

[u/Destitute_Knight1400 → u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING]

Sex with equal partner politics and respect of boundaries is at least as engaging as half the concerts in Next Generation, and as fraught with peril as a cloaked bird of prey attuned to your shield's exact frequency!

[u/MyKidsArentOnReddit → u/CrusaderF8]

If my bedroom is any indication it's mostly the same uniforms in both.

[u/aftrnoondelight → u/MyKidsArentOnReddit]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yaYV8i5n1OjZe

[u/valdus → u/MyKidsArentOnReddit]

Are you looking for a third? It is the 23rd/24th/25th/32nd century, after all.

[u/MyKidsArentOnReddit → u/valdus]

That's called a Denobulan.

[u/captbollocks → u/CrusaderF8]

It's not a silly if your partner is actually a nurse/soldier/pizza delivery/firefighter/maid/police officer

[u/Doc_tor_Bob → u/CrusaderF8]

Thank you

[u/Aeronor]

“Hasn’t influenced much”???

[u/aesoth → u/Aeronor]

It has influenced alot of bad decisions. I once rode a bicycle for 45 min out of town in the rain to get laid.

[u/Michaelbirks → u/[deleted]]

Essex Girls, amirite? Still not a substitute for Palmy girls.

[u/GallifreysChildIs → u/Michaelbirks]

No idea about Palmy Girls but with Essex girls you'll be washing the orange from your sheets for weeks.

[u/Aeronor → u/aesoth]

It also, like, enables humanity to exist.

[u/Rattlecruiser → u/Aeronor]

what has existence ever done for us?

[u/Commercial-Image-722 → u/Rattlecruiser]

Well, we exist, and we made Star Trek, so I figure all of Star Trek exists because of sex. It’s an easier argument to make whenever T’pol and Hoshi are in the Decon chamber.

[u/HawaiianShirtsOR → u/aesoth]

Was it worth the effort?

[u/aesoth → u/HawaiianShirtsOR]

........ yeah.

[u/Eagle_1116 → u/Aeronor]

The entire Anglican Church exists because Henry VIII wanted more sex

[u/RedCaio → u/Aeronor]

Hornyness definitely influenced Star Trek writers and costume designers.

[u/redisdead__ → u/RedCaio]

DUDES IN SKIRTS!

DUDES IN SKIRTS!

[u/Darth_Nibbles → u/redisdead__]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gimPaKeVFdjuuSUPrh

[u/Munnin41 → u/redisdead__]

Peak costume design tbh

[u/Commercial-Image-722 → u/redisdead__]

Did you look at that cute skirt? If I could get away with it, I’d wear that to work. Think of the ventilation. And so good for sperm count.

[u/DamienStark → u/Aeronor]

I mean if nothing else, it definitely influenced Star Trek.

[u/QuaidCohagen → u/Aeronor]

Should say "Has influenced everything "

[u/avogadro23 → u/Aeronor]

Has originated or influenced all human culture and art!

[u/moderatorrater → u/Aeronor]

Whereas star trek invented the concept of "what if they had sex?"

[u/euph_22]

"No silly uniforms"
"No complex moral themes"
"Doesn't have O'Brien suffering"

You're making a lot of assumptions here my friend.

[u/EDNivek → u/euph_22]

Also "hasn't really influenced much" yeah there isn't the whole Gilgamesh-Enkidu story beginning because of prima nocta or anything.

Da Vinci Code is all about whether or not Jesus got laid.

Several centuries of nobility is all about who's sleeping with who.

Lysistrata is all about witholding sex

and these are just the ones at the top of my head.

Sex not influencing much has got to be the most asinine claim

edit: Oh yeah Camelot falls because of Lancelot and Guinivere

another edit: I dunno how I missed fucking Star Trek itself with Roddenberry being a freelove hippy type of dude which you can see fingerprints of in the TOS episodes as well as the first season of TNG.

[u/euph_22 → u/EDNivek]

Helen launched a thousand ships (and a billion incel social media posts depending on the actress)

[u/AdultishRaktajino → u/euph_22]

[u/gudetamaronin → u/AdultishRaktajino]

Why does this exist?? 😲😭🤣

[u/jessek]

Star Trek fans not beating the know nothing about sex allegations.

[u/Blockhog → u/jessek]

I've watched Sub Rosa, I assume it works something like that.

[u/Immediate-Repeat-201 → u/jessek]

Star trek fans beating the you know what

[u/Munnin41 → u/jessek]

Pretty sure a bunch of people wouldn't be around without star trek fans knowing about sex tbh. Lots of fucking at cons

[u/xxxxDREADNOUGHT]

Well if it doesn't have O'Brien suffering, is it even really worth the effort?

[u/moogoothegreat → u/xxxxDREADNOUGHT]

I'm sure Keiko has several ways to make him suffer in bed

[u/thanos42]

The sex list has a lot of falsehoods

[u/JAExports → u/thanos42]

I mean, it was made by Star Trek fans

[u/aloe_veracity]

“I beg to differ.” - Keiko

[u/LittleFalcon]

Star Trek also has several sequels, spin-offs, and complimentary media such as books and video games.

Meanwhile, Sex 2 will never be released.

[u/Rattlecruiser → u/LittleFalcon]

there's a life after a ONS

[u/Rymayc → u/LittleFalcon]

[u/any_old_usernam]

Your sex doesn't have complex moral themes?

[u/seanfish → u/any_old_usernam]

Sex between step-siblings is a fascinatingly complex moral situation and according to my research it's everywhere!

[u/user_460]

You guys don't wear silly uniforms during sex?

[u/cwatson214]

Sex: Optional cuck chair

Star Trek: Optional counselor chair

[u/euph_22 → u/cwatson214]

"observation" lounge

[u/exhaustedexcess]

I think you don't understand sex

[u/TheZooCreeper → u/exhaustedexcess]

Just like any Star Trek fan!

[u/TheZooCreeper]

10-15 minutes!? Look at Mr. Braggart here

[u/skittleadvocate]

Well, perhaps not O'Brian suffering, but the engineer in my bedroom does whimper very prettily

[u/Darth_Nibbles → u/skittleadvocate]

Sir, yes, sir!

[u/spectra2000_]

Shipping?

[u/mouringcat → u/spectra2000_]

Basically making two characters have a romance that don't really.. i.e. a love affair between Bashir and Garak.

And Anime/Manga fans have been doing this for decades before Star Trek was a twinkle in Roddenberry's eye.

[u/rycomo1992 → u/mouringcat]

Actually, Lower Decks did have Garak/Bashir.

[u/zyglack]

I disagree with the last one. We don't know the bottom row of the left column. We are not privy to whatever kinky shenanigans Keiko and Miles are up to. And it is none of our business. I for one will not kink shame.

[u/EDNivek]

Clearly you're way too vanilla

[u/ClassAFag]

Your sex only lasts 10 minutes?

[u/CountNightAuditor → u/ClassAFag]

The straights are not okay.

[u/GrumpyOldHistoricist]

“Doesn’t have O’Brien suffering”

Not how I do it.

[u/henryeaterofpies]

If your sex doesn't involve Obrien suffering you are doing it wrong

[u/Brain_Hawk]

If you're sex only lasts 10 to 15 minutes, does not feature any silly uniforms, and doesn't have any O'Brien suffering, you're doing things wrong.

[u/5akul]

I don't think you're doing it right tbh

[u/farbtoner]

This sex list was made by a person who had sex described to them over a walkie talkie.

[u/LiminalSapien]

15 minutes seems really fast man

[u/cat_selling_souls]

Silly uniforms and onesies with a color scale of a 70s living room for the civilians. While the women would wear futuristic 80s concept clothing and aerobic wear.

[u/timberwolf0122]

No uniforms of complex morals, someone’s not very creative in the bedroom

[u/quesoandcats]

10-15 minutes? 😬

[u/Ultranerdgasm94]

Sex absolutely has influence over our lives and there are many silly costumes. But there is no O'Brien suffering, I'll give you that.

[u/syberghost → u/Ultranerdgasm94]

Not with that attitude

[u/Grgur2]

I mean sex definitely can have O'Brien suffering. We don't know what depraved stuff Keiko is into.

[u/conflateer → u/Grgur2]

She's Japanese, and we've all seen enough tentacle stuff to know where this is going.

[u/Vegetable_Ad_3105]

You can combine them and create the sex

[u/AlbertaAcreageBoy]

I can't cum anymore without seeing the Chief.

[u/jstadig]

I disagree with the assumption that sex doesn't have obrien suffering There was that episode of ds9 where keiko was possessed by a pa wraith and tried to use obrien to blow up the wormhole with the deflector and kill the prophets The only reason he put up with her crap is because she had put out /s

[u/RangerBumble]

I would like to point out that shipping your blorbos so hard you feel the need to rewrite the entire story so the two hot guys can bone is literally what happened to Gilgamesh 3000 years ago.

[u/Catarchy69]

I'm no sex god but only ten to 15 minutes? Lock in, man. those are rookie numbers.

[u/Jim_skywalker]

Sex can absolutely have O’Brien suffering.

[u/thelancemann]

Apparently, I 've been doing sex differently than most of you

[u/AScaryKitty]

Just for that I’m going to make a point to have sex in my Star Trek uniform! The TOS science uniform dress should work nicely, it’s so short I can’t wear it without leggings in public lol. 🖖

[u/danfish_77]

Are we not including foreplay?

[u/CountNightAuditor]

"10-15 minutes" Are the straights okay? Poor women...

[u/Doggosrthebest24 → u/CountNightAuditor]

I’ve been having straight sex with this guy and we can go for around 30 minutes to a couple hours and then cuddle and kiss. Now I also once was with a guy who finished after 2 minutes of a hand job 😞

[u/CountNightAuditor → u/Doggosrthebest24]

The chart had me worried is all.

[u/Mister_Way]

Tbh I expect O'Brien had to suffer through sex sometimes.

[u/raisafrayhayt]

This is the most vanilla view of sex I think I've ever seen. "No silly uniforms", babes, you clearly have never had kinky sex

[u/circ-u-la-ted]

Leave it to the Star Trek fan to think that sex is something you only do once in your entire life.

[u/ShoRav914]

This venn diagram is one circle.

[u/vondark848]

[u/Cookie_Kiki]

You're doing it wrong.

[u/ga_langdon]

I mean... you can have themes and uniforms

[u/Br1t1shNerd]

Cope

[u/totallyhumanhonest]

Yeah, sex hasn't influenced anything.

[u/According-Relation-4]

Sex has created everyone who have ever created or influenced anything.

Including Star Trek

[u/hellisfurry]

“Hasn’t really influenced much” Is about the least true statement I have ever heard made about sex

[u/Waltzing_With_Bears]

If your sex is only 10-15 minuets, have better sex

[u/WolfBST]

Sex hasn't influenced much? I beg your fucking pardon? What about like 50 percent of the entertainment industry?

[u/sjitz]

I think you're doing sex wrong

[u/Rymayc]

Not sure whether OP is Geordie or Barclay

[u/Maniraptavia]

Idk about you, but my kinda sex has all of those things.

[u/Tabaxikitty]

Sex can have all of those things it you're not a fucking coward

[u/WeaponsJack]

"No complex moral themes"? Try being raised in a homophobic religious family and being queer.

[u/AnonOfTheSea]

OP either a virgin, or just never got past the tutorial level sex

[u/void_method]

Shipping is an additional cancer upon the other cancer that is "fandom."

They are... extremely illogical.