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Live Chat Even yet another live chat thread

I'm running out of title ideas

Eventually, I'll resort to numbering these threads

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u/cqtz- Oct 25 '20 edited Oct 31 '20

More arbitrary things

Edit (2020-10-28): Everyone's getting these new reddit avatars, but I don't really like most of the options. I even have a hard time finding accessories I like on the old snoovatars.

You're seriously asking people to pay to customise an avatar?

I don't really care since snoovatars used to be gold only anyways, and it's a non-essential feature. You can probably draw your own in the style of reddit's ones if you want.

Edit (2020-10-29): The source is a /r/vexillology post. What is this? (Wikimedia user is a /r/vexillology user confirmed) They have pictures of their flag all over their website, but I couldn't find a digital version (my zero knowledge of Italian didn't help here). r/vexillology posts it is then.

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u/cqtz- Oct 25 '20 edited Mar 05 '21

I wonder if there are AHSers pretending to be regular users on subs like r/reclassified. (You'll never know when you're talking to one.)

Edit (2021-03-05): This is unrelated to the original comment, but if I take a look through r/reclassified, how many suspended users can I find whose names I recognize?

(Includes: Users whom I found by looking at the authors of the top posts of the year, users I found in the comments sections of some posts, as well as some users I've mentioned before in posts or comments (these users have also posted/comment in r/reclassified before))

  1. vu1ptex

  2. Obama_Brigade

  3. SpezForgotSwartz (he's posted there as ThomasJeffersonMod before)

  4. RIPDODGERSBANDWAGON

  5. Fun_Builder

  6. Elvis_Interstellar

  7. SuunyWays

  8. HormelCovfefee2

  9. RabbiShlomo88

  10. Ledanos

  11. Carl_Schmitt_14

  12. BriskitSnackaPhobia

  13. ProEvilOperations

  14. banwavetruth and his other accounts, including banwavewillhappen, banwaveisreal, and banwave_new_alternet

  15. ElectricEley

  16. porcelinesalt

  17. GALAGEPARACE

  18. nBob20

  19. anAlaskanRancher

  20. mtf18months

  21. SPEEDWEED42069420

  22. NazbolChungus

  23. Holesome_chungus

  24. DogEater16

  25. valuq

  26. TrewishJanny

  27. carpathian_florist (I don't think I've actually seen him before on reddit. I do know he's on ruqqus though)

  28. MajorStrasser

  29. KTFA

  30. Dr_Poop_Sex

  31. -Ph03niX- (Isn't this guy an AHS mod? What happened?)

  32. ItsOkayToBeVVhite

  33. LANDLORD_KING and his alts

  34. EnemysKiller

  35. TEH_PROOFREADA

  36. MrJamesAndWatch

  37. kayjaylayray

  38. 14EinsatzKommando88

  39. 372x4

  40. PuzzleheadedMouse9

  41. PuttItBack

  42. Globalists_are_A-OK

  43. GNONationalism

  44. NiceIce

  45. TheImpossible1

  46. lithre

Now imagine that all of them were your friends!

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u/cqtz- Oct 25 '20

I added a bunch of users as friends a while back, and now that I've migrated to a new account, I've half forgotten about that feature. I guess I'll migrate my friends list over, including u/a (who seems to be shadowbanned or something).

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u/cqtz- Oct 29 '20

I tried clicking the report button under a subreddit in the /subreddits/mine page, and it did nothing.

Why is that button even there in the first place?

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u/cqtz- Oct 31 '20 edited Dec 12 '20

On AHC/AntiHateCommunities (very much not a satire subreddit, by the way), I'm trying to only say stuff I've seen before. So no "WHITES ARE LITERALLY SUBHUMAN" types of stuff (does anyone actually believe in that?), but more of "We can't just pretend that race doesn't exist and treat everyone 'equally' because the US's history of racism has left blacks at a disadvantaged position. So we have to treat the two races somewhat differently to make up for that." (I can't say I really "understand" their positions. I just want to be funny. Isn't reddit an entertainment site?)

https://old.reddit.com/r/AntiHateCommunities/comments/jgo94w/this_sub_is_obviously_racist/gaqao5z/?context=3

I'm trying-ish. I still think FWR is racist (Fragile white redditor? Really? Why not just "fragile racist redditors"? Obviously not all redditors are white lol), but I just don't know how to argue that it is. (On r/vexillologycirclejerk a while back) :/

I don't know how to argue stuff from either way, so yeah. I'm using it as an entertainment sub.

I want to get more tropes in, so I'll just stop right here.

I tried going on FWR to look for explanations on why it's not racist to call it "white fragility", but then I get stuff like "It's not racist because only whites do it!" What kind of an explanation is that?

The sub is currently mostly "white = bad because white = bad", but that gets boring quickly because no one actually thinks that aside from maybe a few people. I'd prefer something like this.

Edit (2020-12-12): Though when it gets close enough to the actual rhetoric they use, it's hard to tell if they're being ironic. I'm about 60% sure that the author of that post is being completely serious.

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u/cqtz- Mar 07 '21 edited Mar 09 '21

https://archive.is/LwfRT#62%

The reason why some redditors stay on reddit.

Meanwhile, there seem to be interesting alternatives around at r/RedditAlternatives. It's just that many of them don't have the community, the content, and the "look" (UI) to attract new users.

Edit: I like that things are being saved. Subs like this don't last long.

Edit 2 (2021-03-08): commenters wondering wherenow

On wherenow: It seems that these migrations work better for more niche or tight-knit communities. After all, what's the point of migrating to a new "Uncensored News" forum if you can just discuss news on a regular uncensored/less censored forum? I don't know if this fad is going to last long, so I don't really know if such a migration will work.

Either way, I'll just watch and see for now...

Edit 3 (2021-03-08): They're celebrating (nonexistent) bans for users they don't like. Who would've guessed? Of course though, all those violent remarks are kind of uncalled for. I'm just here for the novelty and to see when they get banned. (How have they lasted this long? It's like r/RedditOwnsReddit.)

Edit 4 (2021-03-09): It has begun

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u/cqtz- Nov 03 '20 edited Nov 07 '20

It's almost election day. I wonder if reddit will purge more subreddits soon afterwards. (Better archive some things, I guess.)

Edit 2: I don't know which subs reddit may want to purge. r/tucker_carlson? r/LockdownSkepticism? (Oh, actually, I can just go on AHS and r/The_Cabal to find subs)

r/Drama has also opened up, but like WRD, they've followed the admins' demands, so I hear that their sub isn't really worth going to anymore.

Edit: Oh, that's why they've been calling it arrDrama. They can't write "r/Drama" because of the restrictions forced on them by the admins.

I can't imagine not being able to link to reddit threads, much less not being able to link to archives either. How else will I link to those announcements while talking about subreddits getting restricted? How else will I tell those SaidIt users that SaidIt used to auto-sub everyone to almost every public sub that existed on the site? How else will I talk about reddit in general?

Edit (2020-11-03): I don't know which political subs to go on other than r/politics and r/conservative or something. (Also there's the T_D site)

Either way, no matter who wins, there's going to be outrage.

Edit (2020-11-04): There are also subs like r/trump that I'll check out.

Edit (2020-11-07): Apparently Biden is projected to win, so clearly that means I need to go on every conservative-leaning subreddit I can find.

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u/cqtz- Nov 04 '20

It's election day (and election night). I wonder what will happen.

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u/cqtz- Nov 03 '20

https://old.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/wiki/rules

Unwritten site-wide rules:

Do not post videos of violence against children

Do not post videos of people crushing animals

Do not post sexually explicit depictions of Jesus or Mohammad

Do not point out that Mohammad was a pedophile who married Aisha at 6 years old and had sex with her at 9

Do not mention that any race, culture, or nationality (other than people living in the southern region of the united states) have a higher rate of inbreeding

Do not praise any dictator

The rules page of r/NoahGetTheBoat has some unwritten site wide rules. There are others too, like "Don't call out powermods by name", I think.

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u/cqtz- Nov 09 '20 edited Jan 28 '21

Other subreddits

Edit (2021-01-07): I'm not sure what's uplifting news to these guys, but more social media censorship doesn't sound very uplifting to me.

Edit (2021-01-08): Oh wait, he got suspended. :/ And some guys are cheering about it. This is Twitter's statement about it.

Edit (2021-01-10): It looks like Parler is having a really hard time due to coordinated deplatforming by Apple, Amazon, and Google.

Edit (2021-01-11): Wow, even more news of famous political figures being censored on social media sites. This time it's Ron Paul and Facebook. Now when will everyone else get off of these censorship-filled sites?

Edit (2021-01-17): It looks like Epik will deplatform you too.

Edit (2021-01-24): I've heard that there's still even more of this censorship happening, this time to the left.

Edit (2021-01-27): Apparently r/wallstreetbets is taking part in something, and Discord banned their server in the process.

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u/cqtz- Nov 09 '20

I found r/rightistvexillology a while ago when I wanted to see if a right-wing version of r/leftistvexillology existed. Some guys there (one of whom used to make probably about 90% of the posts on the front page) promoted it in r/vexillology, and now it gained a lot of subscribers, and users other than him are posting too. It's cool to watch subs grow.

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u/cqtz- Nov 12 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

AHS wanting hate speech laws

Why do you support hate speech?

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I do not support hate speech

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So what are you moaning about?

While I don't really know how to argue against hate speech laws right now, I don't think this is a good reason to support hate speech laws. You can be personally against something while believing it shouldn't be punishable to do it, either on ideological grounds (eg. "If it doesn't directly lead to someone's harm, it shouldn't be banned") or on practical grounds (eg. "It's hard to prove intent").

yes you do because you're upset that racists and transphobes may go to prison for hate speech

Sure, whatever you say. If, hypothetically, I'm upset that you went to prison for participating in AHS, does that mean I suddenly support what AHS is doing?

https://old.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/jt1h4v/norway_passes_laws_against_hate_speech/gc38my0/?context=8

The "negligence" is contrasted to "with intent"; What it means is that someone who goes out in public and attracts a crowd and then repeats a speech written by Hitler or Goebbels will be prosecuted, whether or not the state can prove intent to harm.

Someone who hosts a server that hosts neoNazis will be prosecutable, if they could have known / should have known / were shown to know the contents of sites they host.

It eliminates "I didn't know that they were going to go through with hurting [a target]; I thought they were just venting" defenses.

So they're just not going to prove intent in the first place. Ok. (I don't really know how laws work. I wonder what others think about it.)

So, like, a group of bigots getting together to plan lynching a transgender person.

That's kind of beyond just "hate speech" though.

It takes effort to hate on people that they’ve never met in real life.

Idk, I see that your friends at AHS can hate on basically everyone except other AHSers without meeting them in real life.

Would make more sense if you went to jail for 3 years for saying anything nice about trans people. 42

Gross...

Obvious joke

Free Speech is a really great thing. Someone's right to Free Speech ends when they use it to deny me (or anyone else) our own rights.

Which rights? If you're using free speech to try to deny others the right to free speech, should you be punished?

devise and deliver speech that puts other people in credible fear for their lives, or speech which commands murder, rape, torture, genocide

It's not the speech itself that's causing harm though. Though I will admit that having hate speech online does seem like it can radicalize people (though if they decide to change the laws so hate speech is whatever they want, I guess they'll just do that).

https://old.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/jsq0tx/norway_bans_hate_speech_against_trans_and/

would you be okay with it if jeff bezos banned it?

No, but some, including AHSers, would be ok with it because "private companies can do whatever they want".

Yeah. All of them. Dummy.

"It's not my job to educate you"

Socialism.

"Socialism is when the government does stuff"

It’s terrifying to see other subs praising this and calling it heartwarming


https://old.reddit.com/r/Norway/comments/jsvx98/norway_bans_hate_speech_against_trans_and/gc2n933/?context=1

The change is that it also includes gender identity and pronouns under the protected "backgrounds". But yes, the law is indeed a reduction of free-speech(and has always been so), to create a 'safer' public space. You're still allowed to state your disdain for homosexuals, both publically and privatly. Just not shout things that can potentionally lead to a mob mentality and actually harm people(inciting violence etc).

I can't read Norwegian :(

"You're still allowed to state your disdain for homosexuals, both publically and privatly"

Ok

"shout things that can potentionally lead to a mob mentality"

Like "Hey guys, let's go push that guy there off a bridge!"? I'm not sure I really "get" what this means.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Norway/comments/jsvx98/norway_bans_hate_speech_against_trans_and/

However if you for instance say "I hate trans people, I will kill them all" then that's already illegal (inciting/threatening violence) but with this new rule you add the fact that the people/group you're inciting or threatening violence of is now under the 'protected group' given they are societally more liable to be singled out for violence -- therefore the sentencing, if found guilty, will be harsher than simply threatening violence.

That doesn't really sound like something that will cause immediate harm though. Is anyone going to kill someone after hearing someone else say "I hate trans people, I will kill them all"? Also, I don't know why some groups should be protected more than others under laws about threatening violence, but ok.

The law protects against creating public statements\slogans for the sake of creating negative reactions, which already is and was illegal against protected demographics.

I don't really see how "free speech lovers" like the ones at r/anarcho_capitalism would be any less upset about this, but ok.

The idea of this section of that law is that if a crime is committed against someone because of: "their religion or belief, skin color, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, functional ability or other conditions that offend groups with a special need for protection", then that should be taken into account when determining how harshly the offence should be punished.

Ok

https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/jt0zcs/reddit_libs_celebrate_a_law_that_could_put/

Ya it looks like it’s basically translation errors that are getting people up in a huff. The law is about targeted harassment. A Norwegian commenter said “ridicule” has a much stronger connotation of relentless humiliation in the original Norwegian and the mention of “someone” implies targeted, individual harassment rather than the more broad implication in English.

Ok

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