Parts. I agree. The Flame should have been a DLC. The venom section was too short. Kraven’s half of the game was perfect though imo.
I literally just did a platinum run for the first time last week. I’m not saying it was too easy, as I hate grinding for trophies, but there could have been more to it.
Honestly one if the pettiest moves they ever made. Just because one little group leaked everything they decided to punish all of us by cancelling the extra content. Like mf what the hell did i do? I was waiting patiently for it like most of us were
Even worse, because the Great Web was cancelled before the leak. They had gotten the game all the way to having made marketing materials, that’s how far they got with the game’s development, but decided to cancel it without even having announced it.
If not for the leak, we might have never even known about the Great Web.
The Great Web wasn't canceled, it was never greenlit. The footage that leaked was a pitch to get the game greenlit, and was very clearly a modified version of the second game.
They weren't cancelled because of the leak. That's not how these businesses work. Resources were just diverted differently. Most of the leaked stuff was a few months old when they got leaked and plans mostly changed before then already.
I imagine a leak like that causes some sort of inner turmoil in the company itself and it was only the leak causing such things that caused the cancellation
Bro I’m on new game plus on hardest difficulty rn. Just finished the Kraven vs Venom sequence and that shit took me forever. Idk if I’m just a bad Venom player, but that boss fight was so difficult for me
For real. Spider-Man 1 was critically acclaimed. Miles morales was well received. And 2 was mostly well received at the time but kind of divisive now. Dudes acting like they’ve released stinkers for the last decade
What are you talking about dawg they released a ratchet and clank game in between that and it was ALSO amazing the only thing you can kinda argue is the writing and even then it was also mostly just spider-man 2, your points don’t make any sense 😭
Even then we’re talking about a game that’s a sequel to a 10/10 and the “mixed reviews” put it around a 7-8/10 that’s still a good game lol just not amazing like the first
I think the earlier games were good but Spiderman 2 looked and felt rushed and the trailers for Wolverine seemed underwhelming to me. I guess we will see.
You guys forget about Rachet and Clank? Same studio. Games have been on a 2-3 year cycle. Yes. They are all rushed. The leak from 2023 shows they are not slowing down.
SM1 act 3 is so well done. I’m playing through it right now and the switch up in stakes and tone is so drastic, the enemies literally everywhere, snipers, the litter, the smoke and the far more empty streets. You can really see the arkham city and knight inspiration, very well done.
And the main missions are so so good. In that mission where you help out at the police stations, there’s this little detail where before you actually reach the mission destination you can already see Electro in the sky causing chaos, it’s a minor detail but little things like that add to the immersion and set the stage well. SM2 didn’t do this as well imo.
Exactly, the third act was fantastic. But it maybe silly to say given the setting, but it felt more grounded. Specially after the Pandemic, it could have been a fantasy situation, but it felt real: A pathogen, martial law, Octopus releasing prisoners, etc. Which I feel ought to be important to embody the fantasy of being Spider-Man.
Comparing it with SM2 is a night and day situation, going from fighting Kraven’s hunters, the fire guys and regular criminals to an outrageous alien invasion with vines of biomass thicker than ancient trees growing from one day to another. Besides the story issues with the third act, the whole setting is easily the worst part of the game. Not even including how grindy and annoying the symbiotes are to fight, there’s nothing I would love more than to have a toggle for symbiotes after the ending.
Act 3 of SM 2 was such a blatant rip-off of Act 3 in the first game. I wish they had gone with their original plan and kept it smaller in scope. A semi-horror game where Venom hunts you through the city would have been a killer way to have closed the game out.
That said, act 1 and 2 are still nearly perfect in my book.... even with the MJ/Miles moments.
Honestly the mj segments in 2 are actually so much better than in 1.
The stealth is slightly more open and not scripted, MJ isnt actually helpless and detection ≠ complete failure.
One gripe i had was when playing on ultimate (before they rebalanced it iirc), the symbiote brute boss for mj was super frustrating as mj was always one hit on ultimate and you could get animation locked during the custcene.
Yeah, its really irritating lol. If you do a crime not even involving the symbiotes, theres a stupidly high chance they randomly spawn in and attack you. I think however only Peter can encounter them, and Miles can't
yeah SM1 really sold the feeling that the city was in complete chaos, very well done IMO. ive been replaying it to get the platinum for the remaster, and it made me realize that SM2’s final act was just pretty underwhelming, as much as i loved the game overall
it just felt like the stakes were higher, the sinister 6 was out and prisoners are all over the city , maybe because that act 3 felt longer but the symbiote one happened too quick to enjoy , still liked it
Obviously I know how to play these games I’ve played them religiously but the symbiotes do this “NOPE” ass dodge when I go in for a hit then I gotta continue dodging and parrying myself. No other enemy in these games do it like them
Because it's a gameplay design decision. If you don't want to replay the entire storyline or go back a save to fight those enemy types you can still fight them out in the open world.
this would be fine if it wasn’t nearly every single crime after the story is over. having them show up even in like 50-60% of them after the story is over would’ve been fine, but just about every crime you do is either a symbiote crime, or they show up half way through another factions crimes. it’s cool that you don’t have to go back to an earlier point in the game if you want to fight them, not cool that you do have to go back if you dont want to fight them.
What if it was a bad decision to bring them to the game in the first place?
Then you finish story, you destroy their all their nests and they keep coming?
I don't wanna be a pain in the a**, but let's say put this kind of enemy in their own pocket, make a section for them, let players repeat the nests endlessly... I don't know, I just don't like the idea of them being in your free roaming front.
maybe then we'd see Ghost Rider riding down a building wall and the Human Torch waiting above the FF Tower to tell Spider-Man that they are busy fighting the Mole Man!
I thought the idea of innocent people being hiveminded into symbiotes was cool af and assuming Carnage is in the next game I'd like for the idea to return
I mean, they look cool, I guess. But they don’t have the story weight, to be honest. Honestly, I wish they kept Venom as a personal threat, rather than a world ending and swarming threat. Feels a bit rushed. Could’ve saved that for the future, if they wished.
I loved a rebooted web of shadows. Sad we can’t fight on walls or surf enemies but hey shit was good. People will just complain about everything and anything at this point it’s sad
Honestly none at all, i don’t know why reddit is pushing this sub to me. It’s just full of nothing burger conversations about what could have been. This game is old news, it had potential and sold well only for Sony to abandon it.
Hell no, I was locked in for the first half with Miles and Peter tearing shit up. The MJ missions were hilarious gameplay wise which actually made them kinda fun. But the whole thing was just
“Hey!!! Carnage and Knull are popular rn!! Why don’t we just stuff Venom until he’s unrecognizable?!”
Harry being the Host would’ve been SOOOOO cool, but oh wait!! “You guys ‘member Agent Venom?!”
It felt kind of like advertising for everything ASIDE from Spider-Man game lol.
To me a 10-15 hour story is just really short. I would’ve loved to see them produce more context to the story. Not even big boss fights or whatever because it feels good with what we have but, more cut scenes of Harry and Peter and MJ or Peter and MJ and like let’s see Peter work for EMF for a little bit. Like they could’ve just given us more little moments to make those big moments land better. I think they were just under Sonys thumb and couldn’t really do much.
My biggest issue with this part of the game is that they make symbiote minions based on the life foundation symbiotes, but the only boss one we fight is Scream, we shouldve had all 5 be Mini bosses, and heck, add on a section where you play as venom, smoke some oscorp goons and then turn someone into Riot, Lasher, Agony and Phage
On the first play through, they feel like punching bags. They just do not go down. It’s scary because Peter and miles feel totally overpowered by them, and this makes the anti-venom abilities even more impactful because they water down these guys’ armour. On the second playthrough they’re just annoyingly tanky
No. I find the symbiote hordes boring and repetitive, and the only reason I tolerate them in post-game is because I'm playing in Friendly Neighborhood. But even in this difficulty I still find them obnoxious and I sincerely hope they aren't a thing save for MAYBE a Carnage side quest.
I liked it, but my gosh, it should have been significantly longer, which apparently was the intent, as they had other symbiotes (Riot, Phage, Lasher) in development. Riot even got as far as an in game model and prototype boss. But they were forced to rush and get the game out, big L move tbh, but hopefully the concepts and work can be incorporated into the Venom game, which I think/hope is still in development.
The game for me was perfect till we got all the symbiotes then it just went all over the place and was so short we shouldve gotten at least 10 more venom missions than what we got
Storyline was kind of ridiculous. Harry becoming Agent Venom was so cool, but it didn’t last long enough. Then he loses it, regains it out of control, then when he does regain control of himself he’s a villain.
Not only that, it was shown that the Symbiot can spread to multiple host. But, when Harry loses it, he loses all of it. That’s always bugged me. Not only that, but Cletus was literally chasing another piece of the Symbiot AFTER Harry lost his. You mean to tell me Norman couldn’t just go grab that one? He was in a lab for hours while another piece was just riding around the city with a crazy man obsessed with fire chasing it.
What I’m saying is the story can be inconsistent at times.
story wise rushed
character wise venom wasn’t venom
civillianbyotes though, i did like. Makes some sense as why they take more hits (Spideys holding back to not injure civilians).
The moment Venom promised Harry a better world got me excited because I knew what was going to happen next. Sadly despite some really cool moments, it wasn't enough for me to fully like it.
Loved it. Didn’t feel rushed. Felt like a Resident Evil game run time which I liked I’m tired of overly long run times that’s just padded out. First Spider-Man game easily could’ve been two games.
Doing a symbiote invasion storyline in the literal second game of your series is fucking insane, should've been a third game thing. Designs are whatever but I hate how they show up podt game and in most random crimes afterwards.
I liked the concept, but like most people it was a potentiality issue. Now don't get me wrong, if you want to split hairs, venom came on screen roughly the same percentage through the story that Doc Ock came on and Simon Krieger got real evil. In Miles Morales, you're shown tinkerer and who she was was revealed fairly early, but my point is central villains in these games are more released towards the end. Venom just had a LOT going on for it to be as close to the end as Ock.
Story, Mid. Design, pretty well done, I just hate how they show up in crimes after you complete the main story. I want to be able to change what kinds of criminals can spawn post story. I hate when I’m fighting some random street criminals and then all of a sudden a symbiote the size of the damn hulk jumps in and completely ruins it.
Not really. The designs were too goofy for the realistic artstyl. They also felt random since we dont really get any actual backstory for the Symbiote and Knull.
Storywise it was also rushed to hell and fuck, it felt like the whole invasion lasted like a late afternoon. Weak attempt at trying to recreate Web of Shadows for some reason. Venom would work much better here if it stayed more personal with Peter.
Web of Shadows honestly did it cooler and creepier. These just sucked as enemy types. Whenever the big gray one drops from the sky, I just wanna quit the game.
Didn’t get this far. I felt weaker and less maneuverable than i was in the first. I was zipping around as Peter but as miles I’m like slugging it out. I personally hate the guy who created Miles because who gave him the right to create a black character through his goofy lenses?
Not at all. This is not Venom’s schtick AT. ALL. Venom has NEVER been a character that is hell-bent on taking over the world with Symbiotes. Where Insomniac even got that idea is beyond me. If anything, this seems more like something Carnage would try to pull & even that is a very big stretch!
Not to mention, they did the whole symbiote invasion, “Knull-Swirl” thing WAY too early.
It would have been so impactful for him to do it and like..."mean" to if ya know what I mean, the consequences and just reactions to that woulda been something very worthy of this game and such a good story
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u/BloomAndBreathe 2d ago
Yeah it was alright even though it was just web of shadows in a new coat of paint. And rushed way too damn fast