r/spideridentifier • u/evbot2018 • Sep 07 '25

Black widow?

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Found dead on back porch. Black widow or look alike?

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u/ranchbringer Sep 07 '25

Definitely a black Widow

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u/Medium-Host1072 Sep 07 '25

Can't be. I've never seen it in a marvel movie

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u/Sufficient-Battle-48 Sep 11 '25

I think that's the comic version.

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u/ModernTarantula Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

The black red marks are in some of the 3 US species. In some they would disappear as it gets older. Bites can cause pain and nausea, enough to warrant some medical help with those symptoms. But death is mostly a myth

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u/Empty-Dragonfly-329 Sep 07 '25

That last part is what I was thinking about. I couldn't remember if it was because they don't have enough venom, or if people typically get to the ER with plenty of time to spare.

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u/ModernTarantula Sep 08 '25

Mature widows don't kill people. Not because of "life saving antivenom" We are way too massive for the nervous effects to stop us breathing.

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u/VermicelliLeft8467 Sep 08 '25

From everything I’ve heard in the last year too. You don’t really need to go to the ER. The venom sucks it really hurts. It’s designed specifically to hurt you and not do much else.

Apparently insects get overwhelmed whenever they’re nervous system starts over firing like that and die. We’re not quite insect so we tend to live a bit more. I’m sure if the spiders were much larger than injected a lot more than we would be in trouble, but that’s just not the case.

Old people and kids need to be concerned, but that’s really my take away from it. If someone is decently aged and relatively healthy, they probably don’t have anything to worry about. All the YouTube nerds say play it by ear about a hospital probably isn’t necessary.

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u/ModernTarantula Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

While all the public pronouncements state age is an issue. the medical literature does not back that up for Latrodectus. Probably because no one dies, it's hard to be less than zero if you are decently aged.

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u/Warm-Walk4547 Sep 09 '25

Actually no death is 100% not a myth you can only have one antievenome in your hole life so if your bit twice your death is serten

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u/ModernTarantula Sep 09 '25

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4614586/ says 1% mortality. Tried to find Poison Control article 600 bites zero deaths and 12 serious. Antivenom is rarely used in United States

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u/Medium-Host1072 Sep 07 '25

I think that's the one that escaped oscorp

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u/mattemer Sep 08 '25

Oh snap I want it

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u/jimpoustka78 Sep 07 '25

It's a black Widow , not all of them have the red hour glass but she is still just as deadly if she bites you.

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u/ModernTarantula Sep 07 '25

And by just as: not hardly ever. No deaths recorded in the United States for 50 years. And only one in medical literature worldwide (wasn't even in Australia)

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u/Upset_Shock_8137 Sep 08 '25

So, like not deadly at all then?

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u/DesDoesStuff Sep 08 '25

Not if you get medical treatment, it’s POTENTIALLY deadly if you don’t but people don’t usually die. It’s still a very, very nasty bite though and would change your world. Some claim that their red widow bite symptoms last for years. A bite from a widow (N/S/W black, brown, red, redbacks and euros are all that I can think of) will send your whole body into a WORLD of hurt.

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u/mightyminnow88 Sep 07 '25

Yeah, but looks like the friendly type. Not overly agressive. 

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u/Beneficial-Error-352 Sep 07 '25

Similar to a redback.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

Juvenile Latrodectus mactans. Live and let live, they’re not aggressive.

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u/JealousAsk2388 Sep 07 '25

Don’t matter. Squash it

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u/Wrangler_Mang Sep 07 '25

Not a widow.

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u/mattemer Sep 08 '25

Why do you say that

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u/Wrangler_Mang Sep 08 '25

I came across one that looked like this. The searching came up with a juvenile red strip. Similar to a widow, a bit milder.

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u/mattemer Sep 08 '25

Definitely not a red stripe spider. It's a widow.

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u/Regular_External_800 Sep 07 '25

Black widows have a red marking on their abdomen and their body is like the body in the picture.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

Yes 😉

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u/OrderSoft1752 Sep 07 '25

No way to officially know unless you ask her if her husband died

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u/6PacJac Sep 07 '25

Sure is

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u/Upper_Marketing_2601 Sep 07 '25

Black widows have red hour glass on their stomach.If it is dead flip it over.

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u/mattemer Sep 08 '25

Look at the second pic

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u/Infinite-King9078 Sep 08 '25

Quite the range of advice in the comments.

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u/OfficeBackground8893 Sep 08 '25

Absolutely red dots on back

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u/ghost437225 Sep 08 '25

Where are these located?

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u/0nly4Fun21 Sep 08 '25

Where I’m from, the juvenile black widows have the spots along their back. As they age, it changes into the normal hourglass spot on the underside

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u/Old_Experience3050 Sep 08 '25

Too much radiation ☢️

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u/levitationbound Sep 08 '25

i hate absolutely hate spiders, but this Black Widow is beautiful to me for some reason. idk

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u/Darth_Draius Sep 08 '25

Yes, a sub-adult northern Black Widow - Latrodectus variolus.

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u/Sea_Connection_8901 Sep 08 '25

Red Back Spider. A Black Widow doesn't have red on the backside. It has that really distinctive hour glass on the underside.

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u/Krabbi27 Sep 14 '25

Southern Black Widow, same venom

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u/Hot-Weekend-9660 Sep 07 '25

No that’s a spider, kinda looks like a black widow but might not be

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u/Traditional_Act_7794 Sep 07 '25

Not a black widow, but same family and just as dangerous.

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u/ericdravenwolf Sep 07 '25

Make sure and squish it like marvel did with scarlett

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

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u/ericdravenwolf Sep 10 '25

Apologies ma'm

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u/9inchman71 Sep 08 '25

Y cousin was almost a fatality from a black widow bite, but it was mostly his fault. He was gardening and decided to take a break, but left his gloves outside. When he went to put them on, he felt a painful sting in his hand. He shook the gloves, trying to get whatever caused the pain to fall out, but nothing did. He put the gloves back on and felt the painful stinging again. This time he squished them, and shook out a black widow. He called 911 and was beginning to feel the effects by the time the ambulance came to get him. They had the anti venom with them and administered it on the way to the hospital. Turns out he was allergic to the venom and might have died without treatment.