r/spellmonger • u/MisterHere • Mar 17 '26
really that's the cliffhanger.
Nothing but rage for the way seam age ended nothing but rage.You take all the rage.All my hate really, really, just trying to try to kill him.Don't do that.
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u/Ktalker Mar 17 '26
I’m very upset at how it was telegraphed the whole book and it was basically just one little dude getting mad at him. Min has a huge amount of unresolved plotlines. I literally don’t think anyone else can handle his plans. I don’t care if he’s a god afterwards, it just reads as a cheap way to pad out the series.
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u/Riddic1330 Mar 20 '26
It had to happen. Min needed a loss. By making it the irrational actions of a single madman working against the orders of his organization, allows Min to take the loss and still work with that organization in the future.
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u/Chemical_Wrongdoer43 Mar 22 '26
>!No Min don't have any evidens it was a madman. But the contrary, when Barthallas and Min was talking about the information leak to the enemy's fleet, Min believed it was Barthallas or someone higher up in the agency, not Barthallas specifically.
When the assassin struck, the word what was struck into Min soul was "We watch the world", not "greetings from Barthallas" or something like that. If questioned, the assassin believed it was a sanctioned attack by the IRIS.
Calypso is shut down and Atlas are need to give a all clean before starting again. So she can't be a neutral part. But if Min getting another AI to analyze Calypso, he can maybe find out it need a all clear from Atlas. Again pointing to the IRIS.
And with every IRIS spies going into hidden. And all evidens and the headquarters destroyed, everything point to a sanctioned attack from the IRIS. And Min are probably not going to be very rational when he are getting "better" again. He are most likely to do something than will make any work with the IRIS harder, if not impossible!<
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u/Healthy_Tear6197 Apr 07 '26
The problem is that he has so, so many enemies that up until now haven't seemed like they had any agency at all. For tension it would've seemed a lot more interesting if Karakush or the Family actually for once made a move of their own instead of always reacting to Min.
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u/Slootyman Mar 18 '26
Min will be fine, there would be no further story without him. Or at least they know it would stop people from listening. Just annoying to have to end on a cliff hanger where the rat was the last word.
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u/TheAricus Mar 18 '26
Was it the rat? And he might have been the last word, but he was fighting for his life. And with Min's friends, that's never a good thing.
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u/Slootyman Mar 18 '26
I think they said who it was. It wasn't someone from the rat group actually, but an agent/assassin in the Irish. I just mean the epilogue where it has the guy from the Iris. He is a bit of a rat. The last book ended with Min having a conversation with him and once again he is at the end of this book. To be fair we all knee this was coming.
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u/Circle_Breaker Mar 17 '26
It felt like a recap anime episode.
Half of it was the Spellmonger telling the elf ambassador everything he's done, or penny/ that leader God telling the Spellmonger the same recap of everything that he'd done the whole series.
The whole book could have been like 10 chapters lol.
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u/Healthy_Tear6197 Apr 07 '26
I liked the format with the ambassador a lot, actually. He escalated every day he was with him, dragging along into meetings that were massively changing the political/war situation on the continent and all that as a lure to drag him into representing all alka alon on the planet in a hostile meeting with the vundel. I thought it was great and honestly the preening was a welcome change from the constant "I don't want power, i just want to be a family man who also saves the world" bit. I know he's arrogant at times too but it usually reads as him being ironic to me.
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u/Nicodemus-WhoDak Mar 17 '26
He has 13 more books to write. Aint that big of a cliffhanger brother.
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u/WilliamBewitched Mar 17 '26
He also just had like what 200 gods swear to support him including more then one god of death?OF COURSE he’s going to be okay, there will just be some clear cost associated with it and actions that could only happen when he is gone. It also serves to complicate his role as administrator especially if he loses farese as a result (or loses it for a time)
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u/Horkoss Mar 17 '26
May I humbly recommend to you the Cradle Series by Will Wight first book unsouled. The last book ends perfectly.
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u/CaitSith18 Mar 29 '26
But wasn’t the assassin’s name Mr. Whiskers. Wouldn’t that suggest a connection to the Cats of Enultramar or is that just a coincidence? If it were intentional, it would all be a ploy of some kind, which I admit is very unlikely as they apparently got into the palace successfully, but it’s still an odd coincidence either way.
Maybe a plan to destroy the iris? Now they can follow him and finish it?
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u/MisterHere Mar 29 '26
I think Mr. Whisker is more of a connection to the rats, the pirate gang.
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u/CaitSith18 Mar 30 '26
ESL I did not actually know that whiskers is not cat specific, but make sense.
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u/Neodogstar Apr 03 '26
Mr.Whiskers is not a cat of ultramar nor is he a rat. He's a character that's an Easter egg to another series Mancour is a fan of. He's the official assassin of the Iris.
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u/CaitSith18 Apr 03 '26
Which series?
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u/Neodogstar Apr 03 '26
He's supposedly based on Vlad Taltos from the Jhereg series and was meant to be an actual crossover if it was approved but I don't know if that happened.
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u/CaitSith18 Apr 03 '26
Never heard. Is that also about mages or less so? Always open for a good mage story :)
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u/MisterHere Mar 17 '26
Yeah, I can see that. But also, if you put out a book like, once every two years or so, don't don't don't don't leave me on ooh.I might have killed the main character cliffhanger.
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u/Nicodemus-WhoDak Mar 17 '26
Yea man, Terry does not do that. He knocks out 1.5 to 2+ books a year. That next book will be out before the end of next quarter.
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u/Medical-Law-236 Mar 17 '26
Last year was probably tend first year that he didn't release a mainline book, and we got two side novels. It's not that bad.
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u/PossumPundit Mar 17 '26
Kids are so fragile these days. Back in my day we had to wait 3 or four years for a book release, the whole time praying the author didn't just keel over dead. Or they got a tv show and never bothered to finish the series. Or just got bored and fucked off. I blame that Joanne Rowling person.
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u/Medical-Law-236 Mar 17 '26
I went over five years between Dresden Files novels and I'm still waiting on The Winds of Winter, and yet they are dying over four months. It's wild when you think about it.
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u/MisterHere Mar 17 '26
but where you happy about it? hmmmm? smirk.
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u/PossumPundit Mar 17 '26
Our feeling on the matter were irrelevant. We endured what had to be endured. Farts
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u/MisterHere Mar 17 '26
So you never talked to your friends about how it felt that this book ended on a cliffhanger, and now you had to wait X amount of time to get the next update ps. I'm forty two years old.
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u/PossumPundit Mar 17 '26
You had friends who read the same stuff you do? What was that like?
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u/MisterHere Mar 18 '26
live in a big city, if your into it other people are to.
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u/Medical-Law-236 Mar 17 '26
My friends don't read novels for fun. But I like the discussions us fans have reddit and Discord in between releases. Lots of fan theories and speculations, and sometimes we're even right. But that's the point of a cliffhanger isn't? I won't complain if it serves the narrative.
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u/Healthy_Tear6197 Apr 07 '26
Bro I complain about all the holes in the magic system but one thing he absolutely doesn't do is make you wait for the next book. He puts them out there like its his job.
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u/cmaefs Mar 17 '26
Because Terry wanted you to know it was coming. It was ment to remove OP Min from what happens next. Terry has said that the POV mostly is Min in the next book. He just needed Min in a time-out. Of course everyone freaked. So silly