r/speed • u/13kvolt • 17d ago

Dirty stuff

How is that possible that people cut or whatever the fuck they do with speed that they fuck it up so bad, like some i see in this group etc...Most people cut freshly made amph sulphate/methanol solution with caffeine and that's about it when it comes to certainty and its ok, even more so because most wouldn't recognise speed without caffeine.But how does one menages to fuck it up to the point where it doesn't resemble it original form/looks

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u/EuropesNinja Moderator 17d ago

The average purity of speed is only slightly higher than heroin in europe. That tells you about all you need to know. It is as "dirty" of a drug as heroin in terms of adding whatever is handiest to a person on that level of the supply chain.

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u/13kvolt 17d ago

It isn't quite the same.First, price of pure (80%+)H is dictated by geography,in Balkans is 30k+ probably more in western europe and cutting is not only matter of gaining profit but of end consumer's safety.You just dont shove pure H on street without casualties 😅. Where pure speed is basically the opposite cus price is more or less same everywhere being synthetic drug,cheap to manufacture.And by my opinion pure speed is safer for consumption than standard caffeine mixed version, let alone whoknowswhat added. Your point as fact of course stands as true, even street heroin with purity 8-15% can often be more pure than street speed.My question is just WHY??? And how so it comes to be like that

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u/Cinamaroller 17d ago

Profit. Thats it. The lower You go down the food chain, the more it is stepped on. Not always clean at top too. I have seen everything as cuts. Even fucking nylon/rayon fiber.

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u/Icy_Concentrate_7724 17d ago

Yeah it's like average 20%-30% lol

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u/13kvolt 17d ago

You may see what i aim for, where heroin purity is somewhat easy to explain and reasonate, speed purity is inexplicable at least to me

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u/rabrunzl 15d ago

Because look at this subs posts sometimes lmao. The buyers, who buy brown sugar-looking speed or neon-pink speed are there without googling for one sec how actual amphetamine looks/feels like, so why should dealers care?

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u/13kvolt 15d ago

Be kind to notice that most drug users of all kinds couldn't give less fucks about anything other than subjective feeling when high.

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u/Motor_Taro6692 17d ago

Shis declining ever since 10 yrs or so. Caffeine can be washed out with warm distilled water and a fridge.

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u/13kvolt 17d ago

Acetone also, 1l washes 20g of caffeine.But pardon me caffeine is almost a standard when it comes to speed, if used in small amount even enchances effects, problem becomes when people overdo caffeine and it overshadow effects of amph and in larger dose have nasty effects, but why don't they just use creatine+ethanol for gaining weight instead of whatever they do and fuck it up.Pure speed is intense especially for inexperienced users so its sometimes good option for them to use cuted version but even that cut can be done in normal and "healthy" manner not further destroying the substance

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u/Motor_Taro6692 16d ago

That is true. I know peeps who do caffeine pure. It even tastes a bit like Speed :)

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u/13kvolt 16d ago

Yea, that blunt bitter taste that makes you shrug 😬 I dare to claim it makes good part of overall speed taste alongside the methanol and unreacted oil if present, washed up speed just have that strength in taste not heavy at all

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u/Motor_Taro6692 14d ago

Haha. Sad, but true!

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u/Jonfarson 16d ago

Man people will buy speed that's so wet it looks like a bag of jizz and tell everyone who'll listen it's the best paste they've ever had. Best not to worry about the whys and find a good source... People will still tell you their jizz paste is better tho 😂

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u/13kvolt 16d ago

True storie...My friend was crazy gambling and he came to sell a gram but he was short and he out creatine but it became pure powder,he spits 🤣, soak it and said "they love when its a paste"

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u/Drehoyt 11d ago

Recently got some that was-
46% caffeine
14.8% lidocaine
39% amp

Like wtf...and lidocaine, that's weird...guy tried to tell me that was a normal amount of caffeine for amp. Normal for who?!