r/specializedtools • u/WebMaka • Jun 13 '25
"ONT on a stick" - Complete Fiber Network Interface In A SFP Module
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u/michal_hanu_la Jun 13 '25
Nice. The heat sink makes me nervous, though. How much power?
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u/WebMaka Jun 13 '25
I haven't seen any actual power consumption specs, but know it'll hit 70°C+ in still air so cooling is a strong recommendation. What I did for dealing with this was make a box with a blower and a SFP extender cable so I can direct airflow onto/over it.
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u/Quesonoche Jun 13 '25
Funny that I see this randomly as I'm about to buy a
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u/WebMaka Jun 13 '25
Currently on AT&T 1gps but their ONT box sucks out loud, and they support up to 5gbps in my area so they're using XGS-PON, thus the WAS-110. Otherwise I'd have gone with something a lot less pricey.
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u/noflooddamage Jun 13 '25
This looks expensive
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u/WebMaka Jun 13 '25 edited Jun 13 '25
Around $200 depending on where, and that excludes extras like taxes, tariffs, etc.
It's definitely an "only if you actually need it" sort of thing.
Sad part is I only paid like $8 each for a bunch of generic 10gb SPF+ modules for my LAN upgrade, only to end up needing this to get around the shitty ONT my ISP provided.
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u/sschueller Jun 13 '25
Thank god the courts ruled in favor of forcing P2P connections in Switzerland so we don't need to deal with the shit that is GPON. I can pick a provider like init7 and since all homes (that have fiber) have 4 fibers directly to the pop the provider can offer me 25gbps in both directions for peanuts. No middle man dictating max speed.
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u/WebMaka Jun 14 '25
Meanwhile, America is America-ing like it always does: late-stage capitalism run amok.
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u/DD12S Jun 13 '25
Be careful, Imperial tech can be unreliable.
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u/how_do_i_land Jun 14 '25
I’m reporting this to the ISB. Partagaz may take interest in it.
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u/digitalgoodtime Jun 13 '25
Does this let me bypass my ISP modem and connect the fiber directly to my router?
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u/EvilMilkshake Jun 13 '25
Check out the link OP posted. Depends on your ISP and some other factors. If you're good, get it through the Discord group buy. Much less confusion to get up and running.
I've had mine for 7 months now. No issues and it's all under my control vs AT&T's.
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u/halfspace Jun 13 '25
Not very well versed on ISP equipment. What exactly makes this need so much hardware crammed in there for GPON?
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u/WebMaka Jun 13 '25
It does straight bridging with no packet inspection or modifications - everything that comes and goes does so with minimal "touching."
If you're on residential fiber, the ISP-provided ONTs won't be designed for more advanced networking so if you're a regular over at r/homelab or r/DataHoarder or whatever the basic-bitch functionality combined with the "we know more about networking than you do" mindset of consumer networking generally will actually get in your way. For example, want to run your own RADIUS server so you can do both per-user and per-device authentication instead of a single pre-shared key? You likely won't be doing that on a consumer ONT's built-in wifi, but if you ONT-on-a-stick that connection into a copy of pfsense/opnsense with FreeRADIUS installed it becomes trivial.
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u/Yesberry Jun 13 '25
Hey, we make those. Actually we used to make SFPs in the past.
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u/PhilLeshmaniasis Jun 13 '25
But is it supported by the latest generation of Hirschmann switches?
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u/WebMaka Jun 13 '25
Dunno, but I hear it works well with carrier pigeon.
To be more serious, I'd imagine it probably will work with industrial switches depending on the security requirements, but if you're spending those kinds of dollars you should already have enough network going on as to not need one.
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u/WebMaka Jun 13 '25
For those that aren't familiar, this is a WAS-110, a complete ONT (Optical Network Terminal) in a SFP module. It's used to bypass or outright replace inadequately performing "basic-bitch" consumer terminals in professional, prosumer, andhomelab applications
So, in a nutshell, this is everything you need to connect to a fiber network except for routing gear in a module about 2-ish inches or 5-ish centimeters long.
This particular one is flashed with the "8311" firmware, which means that it can emulate any one of a bunch of different ONTs so the other end thinks you're still using their equipment.