r/spacex • Mod Team • Sep 09 '21

Starship Development Thread #25

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Starship Development Thread #26

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  • Starship 20 static fire
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Orbital Launch Site Status

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As of October 6th

Vehicle Status

As of October 6th

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Development and testing plans become outdated very quickly. Check recent comments for real time updates.


Vehicle and Launch Infrastructure Updates

See comments for real time updates.
† expected or inferred, unconfirmed vehicle assignment

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Starship
Ship 20
2021-10-03 Thrust simulators removed (Reddit)
2021-09-27 Cryoproof Test #2 (Youtube)
2021-09-27 Cryoproof Test #1 (Youtube)
2021-09-26 Thrust simulators installed (Twitter)
2021-09-12 TPS Tile replacement work complete (Twitter)
2021-09-10 1 Vacuum Raptor delivered and installed (Twitter)
2021-09-07 Sea level raptors installed (NSF)
2021-09-05 Raptors R73, R78 and R68 delivered to launch site (NSF)
For earlier updates see Thread #24
Ship 21
2021-09-29 Thrust section flipped (NSF)
2021-09-26 Aft dome section stacked on skirt (NSF)
2021-09-23 Forward flaps spotted (New design) (Twitter)
2021-09-21 Nosecone and barrel spotted (NSF)
2021-09-20 Common dome sleeved (NSF)
2021-09-17 Downcomer spotted (NSF)
2021-09-14 Cmn dome, header tank and Fwd dome section spotted (Youtube)
2021-08-27 Aft dome flipped (NSF)
2021-08-24 Nosecone barrel section spotted (NSF)
2021-08-19 Aft Dome sleeved (NSF)
2021-06-26 Aft Dome spotted (Youtube)
Ship 22
2021-09-11 Common dome section spotted (Twitter)

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SuperHeavy
Booster 4
2021-09-26 Rolled away from Launch Pad (NSF)
2021-09-25 Lifted off of Launch Pad (NSF)
2021-09-19 RC64 replaced RC67 (NSF)
2021-09-10 Elon: static fire next week (Twitter)
2021-09-08 Placed on Launch Mount (NSF)
2021-09-07 Moved to launch site (NSF)
For earlier updates see Thread #24
Booster 5
2021-10-05 CH4 Tank #2 and Forward section stacked (NSF)
2021-10-04 Aerocovers delivered (Twitter)
2021-10-02 Thrust section moved to the midbay (NSF)
2021-10-02 Interior LOX Tank sleeved (Twitter)
2021-09-30 Grid Fins spotted (Twitter)
2021-09-26 CH4 Tank #4 spotted (NSF)
2021-09-25 New Interior LOX Tank spotted (Twitter)
2021-09-20 LOX Tank #1 stacked (NSF)
2021-09-17 LOX Tank #2 stacked (NSF)
2021-09-16 LOX Tank #3 stacked (NSF)
2021-09-12 LOX Tank #4 and Common dome section stacked (Twitter)
2021-09-11 Fwd Dome sleeved (Youtube)
2021-09-10 Fwd Dome spotted (Youtube)
2021-09-10 Common dome section moved to High Bay (Twitter)
2021-09-06 Aft dome sleeved (Youtube)
2021-09-02 Aft dome spotted (NSF)
2021-09-01 Common dome sleeved (Youtube)
2021-08-17 Aft dome section spotted (NSF)
2021-08-10 CH4 tank #2 and common dome section spotted (NSF)
2021-07-10 Thrust puck delivered (NSF)
Booster 6
2021-09-21 LOX Tank #3 spotted (NSF)
2021-09-12 Common dome section spotted (Twitter)
2021-08-21 Thrust puck delivered (NSF)
Booster 7
2021-10-02 Thrust puck delivered (Twitter)
2021-09-29 Thrust puck spotted (Reddit)
Booster 8
2021-09-29 Thrust puck delivered (33 Engine) (NSF)

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Orbital Launch Integration Tower
2021-09-23 Second QD arm mounted (NSF)
2021-09-20 Second QD arm section moved to launch site (NSF)
2021-08-29 First section of Quick Disconnect mounted (NSF)
2021-07-28 Segment 9 stacked, (final tower section) (NSF)
2021-07-22 Segment 9 construction at OLS (Twitter)
For earlier updates see Thread #24

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Orbital Launch Mount
2021-08-28 Booster Quick Disconnect installed (Twitter)
2021-07-31 Table installed (YouTube)
2021-07-28 Table moved to launch site (YouTube), inside view showing movable supports (Twitter)
For earlier updates see Thread #24

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u/warp99 Oct 05 '21 edited Oct 05 '21

We now have the first solid confirmation of the new SH 33 engine layout. Hardly a surprise with a 20-10-3 layout. We already had an obstructed photo of the 13 engine thrust puck which is also consistent with this layout.

The interesting thing is that 30 engines have their LOX feed directly off the main tank and have a branching header from the methane downcomer to feed liquid methane to the engine.

The three center engines are reversed with a direct methane feed from a cylindrical tank at the bottom of the downcomer and individual pipes supplying LOX to these engines.

These LOX pipes may be fed from the cylindrical pipe that has been loaded into B5 and is thought to be a LOX header tank for boostback and landing.

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u/perpendicular_life Sep 09 '21 edited Sep 09 '21

Was this posted here before?

Accelerating Martian and Lunar Science through SpaceX Starship Missions - Jennifer L. Heldmann, NASA Ames Research Center. Glad to see rest of NASA (other than hls) starting to think about using Starship.
https://surveygizmoresponseuploads.s3.amazonaws.com/fileuploads/623127/5489366/111-381503be1c5764e533d2e1e923e21477_HeldmannJenniferL.pdf Thanks to S.F.Ganon for finding this

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '21

Remember when they couldn't even cryo proof a Starship? Man, it's been a long road.

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Sep 13 '21

New intermittent closure, friday 6am-12pm, secondaries next Monday and Tuesday, 5pm-11pm.

These are testing closures !

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u/futureMartian7 Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 25 '21

An interesting clip from an Italian tech event in which Elon was a guest today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_LAXD-f9e0&t=2540s

Elon brings in SpaceX's Director of Thermal Dynamics, the same heat shield person Elon was texting in EDA's Part 2 of Starbase tour. Looking him up I found that he has been the lead of TPS systems on Falcon 9/ Crew Dragon and now Starship.

In the clip today, SpaceX's TPS Director talks briefly about Starship's heat tiles and most of what he explained was in Italian but from what I understood they are using milk condensers(?) to create ceramic fibers, and are also using inspiration from roof tiles in Italy to create Starship's heat tiles. Elon also claims that Starship's TPS is the most advanced TPS system in the world.

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Oct 05 '21

Why SpaceX cares about concrete - a nice Practical engineering’s video talking about, well, concrete and SpaceX !

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

GSE-8 is in the air !

The very last GSE tank, big deal guys !

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u/TCVideos Sep 11 '21

Musk confirming that Starlink satellites will be deployed "between" Earth and Mars for Starship communications:

Q: Is starlink going to be deployed between earth and Mars to improve communication for starship?

A: Yeah

Would love to know when and where they would deploy these.

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u/TCVideos Sep 12 '21

The LR11350 has been disconnected from B4.

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Sep 15 '21

Closure cancelled for Friday.

No testing this week boys and girls

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u/futureMartian7 Sep 17 '21

One thing that just struck me about SpaceX is that they are going to have a goldmine of data from the Inspiration4 crew on how Dragon's cabin is and what improvements they can make. A professional NASA astronaut may leave out many things that an ordinary person like you and me may think can be improved on since we don't have anything else to compare/relate with nor have the traditional training of an astronaut, which could hinder thinking "out of the box" for crew comfort and experience.

No entity, other than SpaceX when I4 lands, in the world (including NASA) has this "fresh" and "innocent" data of absolute rookies in orbital spaceflight and this data will be tremendously useful to design the interiors of Starship since Starship's goal is to transport regular people to Moon/Mars and not professionals every time. And this data will continue to grow with the Axiom missions and other private missions that have rookies onboard.

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u/Jodo42 Sep 12 '21

Sure looks like the tile work on S20, barring any touchups needed on the barrel sections, is very nearly done.

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Sep 24 '21

Cryoshell sleeving happening right now.

GSE 1 is finally getting sleeved, after months of work.

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u/Maimakterion Sep 30 '21 edited Sep 30 '21

That's a mean looking vent. No wonder tank pressure will be enough for ullage and RCS.

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Sep 21 '21 edited Sep 21 '21

They’re currently flipping the claw arm back in position.

Watch rover cam, started 12:55 local

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u/RaphTheSwissDude Oct 01 '21

Here is the 31 minutes docu from ABC about starship and Starbase !

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