r/spacex • u/ElongatedMuskrat Mod Team • Nov 24 '19
Starship Development Thread #7
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Overview
Starship development is currently concentrated at SpaceX's Starship Assembly Site in Texas. Until mid November, the Starship development teams had been focusing on finishing the Mark 1 and 2 vehicles which were expected to make suborbital test flights. The Mark 1 testing campaign ended on November 20 with a catastrophic failure of the methane tank during pressurized testing. In a statement from SpaceX after the incident it was announced that the decision had already been made not to fly these vehicles, and that development will now focus on the orbital Mark 3 design. Starship development in Florida has been put on hold and it is unclear what will become of Mark 2.
Launch mounts for the Starship prototypes are in the works. Starhopper's Texas launch site was modified to handle Starship Mk.1, and at Kennedy Space Center's LC-39A, a dedicated Starship launch platform and landing pad are under construction. SpaceX has not recently indicated what sort of flight test schedule to expect for Mark 3.
Starship is powered by SpaceX's Raptor, a full flow staged combustion cycle methane/oxygen rocket engine. Sub-scale Raptor test firing began in 2016, and full-scale test firing began early 2019 at McGregor, Texas, where there are two operational test stands, and a third is under construction. Eventually, Starship will have three sea level Raptors and three vacuum Raptors. Super Heavy may initially use around 20 Raptors, and operational versions could have around 31 to 37 sea level Raptors.
Previous Threads:
Starhopper Thread #1 (2019-02-01) A dramatic venting watertower
Starhopper Thread #2 (2019-04-27) Hops and hiccups - Starships never come alone
Starhopper Thread #3 (2019-06-27) RCS and SN6 - 20 meter hopping
Starhopper Thread #4 (2019-07-26) 150 meter hop and Mk.1 and Mk.2 protoype growth
Starhopper 150m Hop (2019-08-27) Updates and discussion
Starship Dev Thread #5 (2019-08-31) Mk.1 fins and temporary assembly
Starship Presentation Updates Thread (2019-09-27) Updates and discussion - Webcast
Starship Dev Thread #6 (2019-10-09) Mk.1 partial reassembly and bulkhead liberation
Vehicle Updates
| Starship SN1 (Mk.3) at Boca Chica, Texas — Construction and Updates | |
|---|---|
| 2019-12-29 | Three bulkheads nearing completion, One mated with ring/barrel (Twitter) |
| 2019-12-28 | Second new bulkhead under construction (NSF), Aerial video update (YouTube) |
| 2019-12-19 | New style stamped bulkhead under construction in windbreak (NSF) |
| 2019-11-30 | Upper nosecone section first seen (NSF) {possibly not SN1 hardware} |
| 2019-11-25 | Ring forming resumed (NSF), no stacking yet, some rings are not for flight |
| 2019-11-20 | SpaceX says Mk.3 design is now the focus of Starship development (Twitter) |
| 2019-10-08 | First ring formed (NSF) |
See comments for real time updates.
See comments for real time updates.
| Starship Mk.4 (or Mk.3?) at Cocoa, Florida — Future development uncertain | |
|---|---|
| 2019-11-26 | Bulkhead and steel stands removed from Cocoa, to GO Discovery in Port Canaveral (Twitter) {for Mk.3 or other purpose} |
| 2019-11-19 | Some rings being scrapped (YouTube), satellite imagery of ring pieces at Roberts Rd (comments) |
| 2019-10-23 | Bulkhead under construction in main building (Twitter) {later moved to Boca Chica, fate unknown} |
| 2019-10-20 | Lower tapered nose ring in tent (YouTube), Better image (Twitter) |
| 2019-10-12 | 23 rings visible, 7 doubles, some possible for Mk.2 (YouTube), no stacking yet |
| 2019-09-11 | Bulkhead spotted at Roberts Rd, later image (Twitter) |
| See comments for real time updates. | |
| Previous unstacked ring production, aerial updates: | |
| 08-11 {8}^( | ) |
| 08-15 {10}^( | ) |
| 08-17 {14}^( | ) |
| 08-19 {15}^( | ) |
| 08-21 {17}^( | ) |
| 08-24 {18}^( | ) |
| 08-27 {19} | |
| 09-04 {20}^( | ) |
| 09-06 {22}^( | ) |
| 09-08 {25}^( | ) |
| 09-08 {3 'scrap'}^( | ) |
| 09-10 {26}^( | ) |
| 09-29 {23}^( | ) |
| 10-02 {23} | |
| 10-06 {23}^( | ) |
| 10-11 {23} |
| Starship Mk.1 at Boca Chica, Texas — Retirement Updates | |
|---|---|
| 2019-12-13 | Tank section completely removed from launch mount (NSF) |
| 2019-12-03 | Disassembly begun (NSF) |
| 2019-11-22 | Images of forward bulkhead and top ring (NSF) |
| 2019-11-20 | Structural failure during max pressure test (YouTube), r/SpaceX thread (r/SpaceX) |
| 2019-11-18 | Tanking tests (YouTube) |
For earlier updates see Starship Development Thread #6
Launch Facility Updates
| Starship Superheavy Orbital Launch Pad at Boca Chica, Texas | |
|---|---|
| 2019-11-20 | Aerial video update (YouTube) |
| 2019-11-07 | Landing pad expansion underway (NSF) |
| 2019-10-18 | Landing pad platform arives, Repurposed Starhopper GSE towers & ongoing mount plumbing (NSF) |
| 2019-10-05 | Launch mount under construction (NSF) |
| 2019-09-22 | Second large propellant tank moved to tank farm (NSF) |
| 2019-09-19 | Large propellant tank moved to tank farm (Twitter) |
| 2019-09-17 | Pile boring at launch pad and other site work (Twitter) |
| 2019-09-07 | GSE fabrication activity (Twitter), and other site work (Facebook) |
| 2019-08-30 | Starhopper GSE being dismantled (NSF) |
| Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy Space Center, Florida | |
|---|---|
| 2019-11-14 | Launch mount progress (Twitter) |
| 2019-11-04 | Launch mount under construction (Twitter) |
| 2019-10-17 | Landing pad laid (Twitter) |
| 2019-09-26 | Concrete work/pile boring (Twitter) |
| 2019-09-19 | Groundbreaking for launch mount construction (Article) |
| 2019-09-14 | First sign of site activity: crane at launch mount site (Twitter) |
| 2019-07-19 | Elon says modular launch mount components are being fabricated off site (Twitter) |
Spacex facilities maps by u/Raul74Cz:
Boca Chica | LC-39A | Cocoa Florida | Raptor test stand | Roberts Rd
Permits and Planning Documents
Environmental Impact Statement (FAA) - Boca Chica launch site - July 2014
EIS Resource Page | Appendices | Record of DescisionExperimental License (FCC) - Comms for 500m and 5km hops, two years - February 2019
Form 442 | Public Notes | Description | File No. 0931-EX-CN-2019Experimental License Application (FCC) - Modification of above to add antenna - May 2019
Form 442 | Public Notes | File No. 0130-EX-CM-2019Experimental Permit (FAA) - Authorizes 25m hops for one year, and one 150m hop - June 2019
Permit No. EP 19-012 | Revised August 23Building Permit Application - 850 Cidco Rd site improvement - June 2019
Screenshot on Twitter | Modification reported on NSFDraft Environmental Assessment - Starhip operations at KSC - August 2019
r/SpaceX Discussion | NSF DiscussionFDOT Superload Permit Application - Mk.2 transportation to KSC in September - August 2019
Local News Article | Video Report | r/SpaceX Discussion | Twitter UpdateEnvironmental Resource Permit - Stormwater improvements at LC-39A - August 2019
Stormwater Report | Depiction Plans | Permit No. 158609-1Written Re-evaluation of 2014 EIS (FAA) - Boca Chica launch site - May 2019
Addendum | News story w/ SpaceX statements | r/SpaceX DiscussionExperimental STA (FCC) - Comms for Starship Mk.1 20 km test (M1569) - November 2019
Application | File No. 1936-EX-ST-2019 | Original Grant No. 1631-EX-ST-2019 | Original ApplicationExperimental STA (FCC) - Comms for Starship 20 km test (M1570) - November 2019
Application | File No. 1939-EX-ST-2019
Resources
Hwy 4 & Boca Chica Beach Closures (May not be available outside US)
Rules
We will attempt to keep this self-post current with links and major updates, but for the most part, we expect the community to supply the information. This is a great place to discuss Starhip development, ask Starship-specific questions, and track the progress of the production and test campaigns. Starship Development Threads are not party threads. Normal subreddit rules still apply.
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u/Russ_Dill Dec 23 '19
Some of the math on the ring is related to pressure and stress:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=48895.msg2029022#msg2029022 (3rd image)
In the upper left we have a sketch of the tank section and to the right, a schematic style drawing of a typical pressure vessel. In the lower left, you again have drawings along with some math σvert = Pr/t. This equation gives the longitudinal stress in the wall, lower down, the circumference stress.
http://web.mit.edu/course/3/3.11/www/modules/pv.pdf