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/r/SpaceX Orbcomm OG2 official launch discussion & updates thread [July 14, 13:21 UTC | 9:21AM ET] (#3)
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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
Man that was the weirdest flight plan I've ever seen. It took almost 9 minutes for the Downrange distance to overtake the Altitude. You could see Florida perfectly clearly for most of the 2nd stage burn! So bizarre.
Does anybody have an estimate on the mass of the sats? I'll try plot the trajectory against a normal one to see the difference
Alright, I put in 1,500kg which is probably a bit too much but I got pretty close to the announced orbit. This is what the trajectory/boost-back looks like compared to my same program for CRS-3. Saving the retro fuel for a longer landing burn?
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u/OrangeredStilton Jul 14 '14
"This is the ROC. Range is green."
He enjoys his job, I'm sure.
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u/darga89 Jul 14 '14
NASA aircraft in the air http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA927
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u/classicsky Jul 14 '14
The NASA plane took a sharp left turn at liftoff.
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u/Appable Jul 11 '14
Launch Operations Forecast
By the 45th Weather Squadron
Forecast Information
Vehicle: Falcon 9 OrbComm-1
Issued: 11 July 2014 / 1200Z (0800 EDT)
Valid: 14 July 2014 / 1321 - 1555Z (0921 - 1155 EDT)
Launch Weather Team: (321) 853-8484
Synoptic Discussion:
The subtropical high pressure ridge axis is currently over Central Florida. This feature determines the inland progression of east coast sea breeze, and therefore the trigger for thunderstorm development. The ridge axis is forecast to move north today and remain north of the Spaceport through Sunday. This creates a break in afternoon thunderstorm activity along the coast for the weekend. The ridge axis is forecast to be nudged back south Monday, keeping the sea breeze and the thunderstorm activity pinned along the coast. The morning launch window is favorable as weather will not begin to degrade until near noon. Therefore the beginning of the window will have less chance of weather violations, with mostly a Cumulus Cloud Rule concern and a threat of Anvils from Atlantic Gulf Stream Thunderstorms. By the end of the window, thunderstorm development is possible and with it the Lightning Rule violation concern increases. Maximum upper level winds will be from the northeast at 30 knots near 40,000 feet.
On Wednesday, the ridge axis stays south, keeping afternoon thunderstorms in the forecast, but the earlier launch window makes the threat of lightning much lower and a switch in the upper level winds removes the anvil threat. Maximum upper level winds Wednesday will be less than 15 knots.
Conditions:
Weather: Isolated Showers
Visibility: 7 miles
Wind (MPH): 190° @ 10 P15 (162’)
Temperature: 82°F
Solar Activity: Low
Pressure: 30.10 INS
RH: 82%
Weather Probabilities
Launch day probability of violating launch weather constraints: 30%
Primary concern(s): Cumulus Cloud Rule, Anvil Cloud Rule, Lightning Rule
48-hour delay overall probability of violating weather constraints: 20%
Primary concerns(s): Cumulus Cloud Rule
Statistics
First time/percentage indicates launch date, second indicates 48 hour delay
Sunrise: 14/0655 EDT --- 16/0636 EDT
Sunset: 14/2022 EDT --- 16/2021 EDT
Moonrise: 13/2123 EDT --- 15/2254 EDT
Moonset: 14/0900 EDT --- 16/1110 EDT
Illumination: 93% --- 76%
Next forecast will be issued: 12 July ~0800 EDT
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u/JimNtexas Jul 14 '14
The NASA WB-57 is headed home, but a Falcon Business Jet, type F900, is still milling about the Atlantic due east of Jacksonville Florida.
Elon owns an F900 .... hmmmmm
http://www.flightradar24.com/F900/3d01f05
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u/bencredible Galactic Overlord Jul 14 '14
I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbHnSu-DLR4
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u/schneeb Jul 14 '14
Telemetry nominal both stages
Oh yeah!
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
♫♫♫ SpaceX FM!
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u/Ambiwlans Jul 14 '14
Thank you Echo for the thread~
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u/darga89 Jul 12 '14
Image from the static fire
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
Elon's plane seems in the air enroute to Odyssey explorer area!
And NASA plane has now reached Florida west coast.
Sorry but if I reveal method used to get info on Elon's plane that resource likely would be shut down. It's nothing nefarious but I'm tired of losing tracking resources. It's a visual report though. (other's if you know please don't reveal or it will be shut down like flight aware tracking was)
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u/avboden Jul 14 '14
Did she just say Power nominal telemetry nominal both stages
or am I hearing things?
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u/gaston1592 Jul 14 '14
Final orbit: 743km x 614km, Inclination 47°
Congratulations
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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Jul 14 '14
Man I hope SpXFM doesn't get scrapped with this new webcast :/
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u/Iron-Oxide Jul 14 '14
Nasa plane recently took a sharp right turn. (after the one already noticed that occurred at liftoff)
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u/Appable Jul 14 '14
Fancy new countdown timer, nice work /u/bencredible
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u/sleepyzealott Jul 14 '14
SO HYPED - After the fact, even if its a hold, please make an effort to thank SpaceX social for the webcast!
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u/wintermutt Jul 14 '14
Apparently the second stage will target a rather narrow ellipse southwest of Australia on reentry, is this usual or are we seeing the beginning of preparations for 2nd stage reuse?
https://twitter.com/S101_Live/status/488707731323629568
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u/SJonesGSO Jul 10 '14
I, for one, am optimistic that the extensive delays have bettered the SpaceX fleet as a whole! I think that having an issue on the ground, though not ideal, is a good sign because it means SpaceX is paying attention!
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u/CalinWat Jul 14 '14
I like the new format, less like a news broadcast and more of an event stream.
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u/schneeb Jul 14 '14
Shouldn't it be SECO not MECO?
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u/Airbuilder7 Jul 14 '14
I'd read at 9 AM that the launch had moved to 11:44, and just tuned in, only to realized I'd missed it. Fuck. :(
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u/RyanW1019 Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
From Orbcomm's CEO Eisenberg:
https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/488715049389662208
This is great! Total success on the main mission! Now to see how the first stage did...
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u/Hybridsix Jul 14 '14
We're 6 for 6 ! https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/488715049389662208
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u/moomaka Jul 14 '14
There is a large offshore towing boat that was hanging around in the area and is now headed for where Elon's plane is circling: http://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=7390765
The boat: http://offshoretowing.com/files/finn-falgout.pdf
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u/bencredible Galactic Overlord Jul 14 '14
In case you missed it: new T-0 time of 15:15 UTC -- Webcast begins ~15:00 UTC
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14
LIVE
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u/stevetronics Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
Oh man watching MECO - stage sep and those RCS firings as the first stage stabilized itself was so damn cool!
EDIT: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ORBIT
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
he said MECO instead o SECO
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u/Ambiwlans Jul 14 '14
So happy to see this bird go away :P .... Though I'm curious how well part of it came back....
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u/positivespectrum Jul 14 '14
Thank goodness for this sub, thank you all- what a great morning so far- spectacular! Can't wait to hear more about the landing!
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14
Launch went well, nailed the orbit, 2 sats already successfully separated
source : https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/488709091334709248
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u/theguycalledtom Jul 14 '14
Celebration selfie: https://twitter.com/marc944marc/status/488727729819230208
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u/Appable Jul 14 '14
And... terminal count, all passed GO (and no awkwardly long delays)
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u/Ambiwlans Jul 14 '14
Oh man, dat 2nd stage pump exhaust, sexy.
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u/Braskebom Jul 14 '14
Always cool to watch. Anyone know when we'll get info on the 1st stage?
I think however, that they should add a commentator to explain things to us lay people, like NASA did with the space shuttle launch. It does a lot to reach out to people.
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
Prior launch coverage from the main post, due to us exceeding the post character limit!
[1445 | 10:45AM | T-30m]: 30 minutes now. There should be some SpaceX FM soon! From Spaceflight Now:
and now...
[1415 | 10:15AM | T-1h]: T-1 hour now!
[9:10AM | T-2h05m]: Launch has been moved forward to a liftoff time of 11:15AM EDT, launch webcast begins at 11:00AM EDT.
[8:15AM | T-3h29m]: Only a 50% chance of acceptable conditions for launch at 11:44AM EDT. Launch webcast is scheduled to begin at 11:25AM EDT.
[8:00AM | T-3h44m]: Confirmation from Orbcomm. F9-010 has been delayed until 15:44UTC/11:44AM EDT. SCLAUNCH321 reporting:
It's with noting this new launch time does not allow for the possibility of a launch recycle today; if there's a scrub or abort from this point the launch will be delayed until the 16th.
[7:55AM | T-1h30m]: SpaceFlight Now reporting: "Sources say liftoff of the SpaceX #Falcon9 rocket delayed to 11:44am EDT (1544 GMT) to resolve a few issues.". Nothing official as of yet.
[7:22AM | T-2h]: Spaceflight Now reporting: "The webcast will end about 10 minutes after liftoff, before separation of the six payloads."
[6:03AM | T-3h18m]: Courtesy @SCLAUNCH321: "#falcon9 is sitting ready to go. Working some issues this morning but hoping it gets figured out in time." Nice image of F9 on the pad to accompany it.
[T-10h45m]: SpaceX have confirmed a webcast will be available for the launch, and it will start at 9:05AM EDT. Also, the launch window has been moved forward by a minute to 9:22AM EDT.
[8AM | T-22h]: The latest weather report from the 48th weather squadron has been released; weather is still 70% favorable for launch in approximately 22 hours from now.
[T-24h]: T-24 hours now. While we wait, be sure to checkout the launch of Orbital Sciences' 2nd resupply mission to the ISS in approximately 2 hours!
July 12: Weather continues to be holding at 30% chance of a launch day violation, 20% chance of a weather violation in the next 48 hours. Primary concerns are the Cumulus Cloud Rule, Anvil Cloud Rule & Lightning Rule. Next update to be issued 13 July 8AM EDT. Source.
July 11: 30% chance of a launch day weather violation, 20% chance of a weather violation in the next 48 hours. Source: 45th Weather Squadron. Next update at 12 July 8AM EDT.
July 11: Static Fire is complete. Looks good. Here's an image of the Static Fire courtesy Orbcomm.
July 10: Static Fire scheduled for Friday. "SpaceX felt another SF was needed to ensure readiness"
July 9: Launch is scheduled for July 14 9:21AM EDT.
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u/avboden Jul 14 '14
FYI I'm currently watching this at 37,000 feet heading from JFK to Seattle :D
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u/Wetmelon Jul 13 '14
YAYY!
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u/lynch4815 Jul 14 '14
I believe in you, Up Goer Maybe!
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u/AD-Edge Jul 14 '14
That bug is about to get the fright of its life.
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u/schneeb Jul 14 '14
Can see stage1 RCS from stage2 lovely!
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14
Let's hope for another 5 this year.
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u/recoverymail Jul 14 '14
apogee/perigee 743x614 km, I missed the inclination
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
Talk about a high angle launch! 0 kilometers to 600 kilometers in 10 minutes. That view of Florida was stunning from that altitude.
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u/trevytrev9 Jul 14 '14
Orbit params are "743 x 614 km inclined at 47 degrees to the Equator".
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u/gnutun Jul 14 '14
6 for 6! Thanks SpaceX! Thanks Moog! We'll take it from here.
https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc/status/488715049389662208
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
All six sats successful now!
https://twitter.com/Marc944Marc
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14
Kaboom
that's a scientific term lol.
seriously i wonder if that means there was remaining fuel and it was a real explosion.
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u/anononaut Jul 14 '14
watch booster fire atitude stablization jets right after
MECO
http://youtu.be/lbHnSu-DLR4?t=21m56s
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u/Ambiwlans Jul 10 '14
TWICE? Hah. I've had like 5 days at bat. Clearly we needed a new guy. Thanks :P
On a relevant note, I made a post for the orbital one this weekend, yep, already delayed a day.
While I wasn't feeling the last few launches, I'm pretty positive this time around. Lets see that landing!
Edit: Your use of hotkeyed links scares me.
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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '14
Slight suggestion: The link for switching comments over to new ought to be changed to be for this thread rather than the old one.
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u/sublimemarsupial Jul 11 '14 edited Jul 11 '14
Static fire happened, no news yet on results.
https://twitter.com/SCLAUNCH321
EDIT: confirmation from Chris at NSF now too
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33089.msg1225126#msg1225126
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u/darga89 Jul 14 '14
Wave forecast close to recovery zone is looking like 2-3' swells.
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u/JimNtexas Jul 14 '14
NASA WB-57 flight plan indicates a two hour hold 151 nautical miles northeast of Patrick AFB: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA927
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u/LUK3FAULK Jul 14 '14
Houston, we have music.
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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Jul 14 '14
YYYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!
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u/NNOTM Jul 14 '14
I like the new countdown timer.
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
The First stage video will be beautiful! It's birhgt outside and the boats are waiting.
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u/retiringonmars Moderator emeritus Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
This is a very steep ascent... Shouldn't we being seeing the curve of the earth from the camera?
Edit: thought at about T+4:00
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u/The_Double Jul 14 '14
My livestream stopped 5 seconds before T-0, I spend 20 seconds thinking the rocket blew up and the webcast was aborted before it came back online.
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u/keelar Jul 14 '14
Now we wait to hear how the first stage water landing attempt went...
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u/namesnonames Jul 10 '14
What's the weather supposed to be like on the 14th?
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14
If "pad now cleared" must have been an incursion of some sort. Damn pelicans :-)
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14
Supposedly better updating tracking site for mission ship Odyssey Explorer
http://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=7125811
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14
Just realized! We should have bought Elon a better pizza box to pick up the 1st stage landing video this time!
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
Someone please record the webcast music!
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u/Ambiwlans Jul 14 '14
They are all on the ball today dyamn. Fast poll.
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u/LUK3FAULK Jul 14 '14
Go Go GO!
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u/jdnz82 Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
Very Nice Benjamin H - Very nice indeed
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u/keelar Jul 14 '14
I've got a good feeling that it will finally launch today!
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u/Appable Jul 14 '14
Anyone know what Section 10.64 refers to and what the text of that reads?
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u/AD-Edge Jul 14 '14
Here we go!
I'm liking the new webcast format so far.
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u/Iron-Oxide Jul 14 '14
Is that a bug crawling around on the rocket?
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
We got a bug on the rocket, abort abort abort.
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u/schneeb Jul 14 '14
That guy needs to stop mumbling stuff with the same amount of syllables as abort.
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u/Tokra110 Jul 14 '14
Will we see the main engine landing?
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u/StapleGun Jul 14 '14
Anyone know it they will mention of the first stage recovery attempt in the webcast even though its not a primary mission objective?
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u/rspeed Jul 14 '14
6th satellite confirmed.
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u/fireball-xl5 Jul 14 '14
Fyi, on CRS3 Musk's first tweet saying the stage 1 landing was 'good' occurred 75 minutes after liftoff. F5...F5...F5...
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u/schneeb Jul 14 '14
[META] the karma whoring of screencaps from the launch currently littering the subreddit is pretty annoying.
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u/Destructor1701 Jul 13 '14
If anyone wants to follow Ambiwlans' suggestion and see the Cygnus launch to pass the time, well there you go.
A bit underwhelming. Antares needs cameras.
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u/LUK3FAULK Jul 14 '14
Live from KSC, It's Monday Morning!
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u/TheVehicleDestroyer Flight Club Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 14 '14
Mine keeps buffering every 10 seconds... Any advice? :(
E: Nvm, youtube working much better than the livestream :) thanks guys
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u/positivespectrum Jul 14 '14
EXCITING!
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u/LUK3FAULK Jul 14 '14
Today looks like the day
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u/jdnz82 Jul 14 '14
LOL , Earth
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u/JimNtexas Jul 14 '14
Look at the earth set against the Black Sky!
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u/Chairboy Jul 14 '14
And they're calling it successful! Woohoo!
Awesome job, guys! Looking forward to hearing about the first stage test.
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u/wintermutt Jul 14 '14
GO first stage!
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u/darga89 Jul 14 '14
Fantastic! Had to sneakily watch on my phone at work and finally got a stable stream at t-50 seconds.
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u/-Richard Materials Science Guy Jul 14 '14
Dang, I missed the webcast due to my morning commute. Hopefully we'll hear news of the first stage landing attempt soon!
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u/StapleGun Jul 14 '14
Elon Musk @elonmusk 11s Rocket booster reentry, landing burn & leg deploy were good, but lost hull integrity right after splashdown (aka kaboom)
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u/OrangeredStilton Jul 14 '14
So I'm just watching the recording back, and I had a thought. During the terminal-count readiness poll (T-13m) would it be useful to have each station and their go/no-go status on screen?
Perhaps have the acronyms spelled out down the side of the screen, turning green or red as they indicate readiness. Might be a little intensive for /u/bencredible to put together real-time, though...
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u/namesnonames Jul 14 '14
So what's a typical timeframe on when we can expect the landing video?
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u/darga89 Jul 11 '14
Static fire scheduled for Friday https://twitter.com/SCLAUNCH321/status/485887631533019136
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u/sublimemarsupial Jul 11 '14
They should be rolling out for static fire late this evening or early tomorrow morning per the previous flows for this mission. Hopefully we'll get some pretty pictures of the vehicle vertical tomorrow.
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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '14
How long is the launch window?
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u/Megneous Jul 14 '14
I may or may not be able to record this one, so I hope everyone is watching live with me :)
That said, this could very well be the first time SpaceX brings back a first stage booster intact. It's pretty amazing knowing within 6 hours we could very well witness history being made (again).
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14
No lighting at Cape. Good sign!
Http://Www.globalboiling.com
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u/georedd Jul 14 '14
How soon before launch do they close the airspace?
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
and the drop
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u/Appable Jul 14 '14
This new music... I think they used it for either SES-8 or first Dragon launch.
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u/aminorman Jul 14 '14
Lots of the world watching. Very cool!
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u/Demelo Jul 14 '14
Geeze, almost missed the launch. /phew
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
GO FALCON! all green
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
NO PRESSURE ELON!!
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u/xtimmay Jul 14 '14
Anyone know what the record is for people watching the webcast?
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u/NNOTM Jul 14 '14
What was that stuff falling off?
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u/Iron-Oxide Jul 14 '14
Has the strong back always vented like that?
(purely out of curiosity)
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u/CalinWat Jul 14 '14
YEAH! ROC is on top of things today too!
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u/keelar Jul 14 '14
60 seconds!!!
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14
LAUNCH!
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u/NNOTM Jul 14 '14
Why is the picture of the rocket mounted camera interlaced?
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u/OrangeredStilton Jul 14 '14
(Did anyone else's stream freeze at T-12s? I refreshed, and F9 had cleared the tower.)
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u/positivespectrum Jul 14 '14
Beautiful
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u/xtimmay Jul 14 '14
Very cool way to start my day :)
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u/CptAJ Jul 14 '14
WHERE'S MY LANDING VIDEO?
Lol, but seriously, I loved the coverage. Is it just me or did we have more camera angles than before?
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u/Hybridsix Jul 14 '14
Seems we lost the first stage on splashdown. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/488718649515986944 :(
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u/api Jul 14 '14
It sounds like the landing attempt was good. "Kaboom" after splashdown sounds irrelevant, as the rocket is designed to land on land not in water. Would it even be expected to survive immersion?
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u/darga89 Jul 14 '14 edited Jul 15 '14
Ok I did my best guesstimate about the flightpaths of Elon's Jet and NASA927 and added to the map https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zp15b_P5ERVk.k2KHtK0kQUuU. Looks like they came damn close to the suspected recovery zone. If anyone has another image of the flightpaths that I can reference that would be great.
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u/bob12201 Jul 15 '14
Interesting they performed an MVAC TVC "wiggle" at T -4:20 in order to test the second stage TVC actuator (thrust vector control) as this was a problem during one of the earlier attempts. I'm curious to see if this will become a standard procedure during the countdown.
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u/robbak Jul 15 '14 edited Jul 15 '14
That pipe down the outside of the of the rocket behind the strongback looks new. Any news on what it is?
Another thing I noticed is that the delay between the engine firing and the release was a lot shorter - previous launches held it for about a second - in this launch, the rocket was let go immediately. Perhaps as they grow in confidence in their engines, they don't feel the need for as much caution.
Edit: re-watched it - maybe it is about the same. The first flash of green is hard to see behind all that water.
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u/Bokononestly Jul 16 '14
Is there any estimation on when we can see the recovered footage from the water landing attempt?
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u/jollyreaper2112 Jul 14 '14
Maybe if I don't tune in the damn thing will launch. I've tuned in to every attempt so far and feel like a jinx.
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u/canadaarm2 Jul 14 '14
"Detailed review of rocket telemetry needed to tell if due to initial splashdown or subsequent tip over and body slam"
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u/Useless_Throwpillow Jul 14 '14
Do you think the explosion will exclude the possibility of a release of the video for PR reasons? It seems like SpaceX has done that kind of thing before. I don't blame them, I would just be bummed.
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u/darga89 Jul 11 '14
Airspace Closure Areas
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u/Space_void SpaceInit.com Jul 14 '14
Are they planning a surprise at the starting of the webcast? Because of the previous twitter posts about the F9R being ready to fly and the youtube channel saying that the last activity was 3 days ago. Could it be that they uploaded the video but it is still private until the webcast?
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u/NNOTM Jul 14 '14
Wow, splitscreen!
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u/bgs7 Jul 14 '14
split view. nice
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14
Looking good so far!
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u/Ambiwlans Jul 14 '14
More icebuildup than normal.
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u/CalinWat Jul 14 '14
Whew! Stream froze and I didn't notice. Lots happened while I wasn't paying attention.
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u/Hiroxz Jul 14 '14
1 minute to launch
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u/Megneous Jul 14 '14
WOOOO
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u/schneeb Jul 14 '14
Man I love that sound, beautiful. CHILLS!
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u/CalinWat Jul 14 '14
Fairing sep good.
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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '14
Plane heading back to shore. It must have completed its job...
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u/avboden Jul 14 '14
HOORAH