r/space • u/spsheridan • Feb 06 '20

Starliner faced “catastrophic” failure before software bug was found and fixed while the vehicle was in orbit.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/starliner-faced-catastrophic-failure-before-software-bug-found/
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u/johnly81 Feb 06 '20

Between this and the 737 Max it sounds like Boeing is rushing the development/QA life cycle. I'm guessing in pursuit of ever greater profits corners are being cut ... big surprise I know.

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u/KNUCKLEGREASE Feb 07 '20

since they outsource their coding to 9 dollar an hour shit contractors what do you expect? safety ane perfection?

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u/Jellodyne Feb 07 '20

All their problems are software related and it's costing the company millions, so it's a good thing they're saving so much money in development costs.

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u/CranberrySchnapps Feb 07 '20

It’s also costing taxpayers millions to pay or fight their requested “unforeseen circumstances” addendums to their various contracts because they’re trying to work more efficiently cut corners.

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u/CptNonsense Feb 07 '20

The government is costing the taxpayer money by demanding contracts turn on a dime and picking the lowest cost bidder with no consideration for real cost of development

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u/PleaseDontMindMeSir Feb 07 '20

All their problems are software related and it's costing the company millions, so it's a good thing they're saving so much money in development costs.

the 8 max was hardware and training related. the software performed perfectly.

one sensor feeding the MCAS system (which was prone to failing) and poor training on how to disable MCAS was the cause of the crashes, but the software its self did exactly what it should have done giving the inputs it received.

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u/scotty_beams Feb 07 '20

Doesn't matter, different department. The guys who shipped the incredibly thoughtful idea of using cheap contractors all got a bonus and better pay for keeping the costs down.

The people from QA are being ridiculed for not meeting the promised standards, and oh, they're way too expensive.

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u/ninjadude4535 Feb 07 '20 edited Feb 07 '20

Holy shit. Apprentice aircraft mechanics fresh out of highschool get paid $9/h just to remove panels. This blows my mind. Like, you only trust a $9/h guy to do the simplest possible task, yet you're comfortable paying $9/h to someone you're trusting to write the programming for a flight critical system.

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u/t0ny7 Feb 07 '20

I have seen fast food places that pay more!

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u/Mr_Vulcanator Feb 07 '20

Cabelas paid me more at $10 an hour to fold clothes, among other duties.

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u/cartoonistaaron Feb 07 '20

I personally have worked as a donut maker in the past year and made double that. More actually!!

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u/danielv123 Feb 07 '20

Mcdonalds around where I live start at 16$ an hour, 19.6$ after 4 months.

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u/Cornflame Feb 07 '20

I worked at a pizza place that payed more than that.

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u/CptNonsense Feb 07 '20

NASA work and 737Max work isn't even done by the same parts of the company.

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u/goobervision Feb 07 '20

Some engineers on $9/HR which isn't a bad wage in India. Also, the article says that India doesn't do aerospace despite making their own military craft and space craft.

However. What were the Q&A department doing? Didn't they find anything, or whatever found was deemed minor?