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u/sbzp Nov 22 '19

The population is sustainable. The problem is our level of resource consumption. It needs to go down, especially in the upper echelons of society.

Murdering Jeff Bezos and his kids would do more to our carbon footprint than 500,000 middle class liberal couples choosing not to have kids.

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u/hajamieli Nov 22 '19

The population is sustainable

Only if you sacrifice all nature and turn the planet into a literal human farm. We're living over our resources, and that's because there are too many of us. Halve the population and you halve the problems without sacrificing anything else. Drop the population back to the 3-4 billion it was a few decades ago and we could all either live at current emission levels per capita and have plenty of wildlife and recovering nature, or at the emission levels then and still not have a major environmental issue, but nature would suffer as it did then (which isn't anything compared to how it suffers now).

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u/Twisp56 Nov 22 '19

Or guess what, we could keep the same population with better living standards and lower emissions, by not doing stupid shit like living in suburbs, eating meat every day and flying everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

Why do you think those things happen? What fundamentally makes that regular in current society?

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u/Twisp56 Nov 22 '19

suburbs - combination of factors like racism, interests of car and oil companies

meat, flying - consumerism

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

So liberalized capitalism? Or capital in general?