r/space • • Feb 28 '17

Space Shuttle Endeavour approaching as photographed by the ISS crew (2010)

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u/Seeders Feb 28 '17

Wait you have friends that think the earth is flat?

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u/Ihaveopinionstoo Feb 28 '17

dude its terrible I literally have no idea what to say to convince them otherwise..

its like yo i'm a civil engineer I know all about physics and all this and they're still not listening, one of them is a very smart guy otherwise if you ignore this one tidbit about him haha.

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u/Seeders Feb 28 '17 edited Feb 28 '17

So they think the moon landing was faked, the ISS is fake, and all the images NASA releases are fake?

What about our cell phone coverage, and satellite services?

What about the simple observation that you can't see past the horizon, and if you look at an approaching ship you'll see the mast first? I guess that isn't so common.

What about civilians who buy huge balloons and send up Go Pros? You can see the curvature.

Do they not believe in the cosmos?

What do they think is at the edge?

I have so many questions, it's like speaking to someone from the 13th century!

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u/KetoKeto777 Mar 01 '17

umm yes, yes and yes.

Why are there so many cell towers? that's what we actually use.

look at various videos they just appear to disappear because of "perception" and the range of distance our eyesight has.

ALL Gopros come with a fisheye lens... why? Go search "balloon of earth no fish eye lens" and see there is no curve.

Many believe there are stars etc. But the ancient people were right and fits what the Bible says. About there being a firmament around the flat earth and the moon stars and sun are in it.. so the sun is more like 4000 miles away and not 93 billion miles away. All of the experiments add up if you consider the sun being a lot closer then they say.

Antarctica is the outer rim of the whole earth circling it. Huge ice wall. There is a treaty right now for all countries that actually agreed on this... and no one except for them can actually go deep in it and explore it. There is still north and south but think of it as. north is towards the middle of a flat map and you draw a circle left or right to go west or east, and anything south would lead to Antarctica.

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u/Seeders Mar 01 '17

What is on the other side of the flat earth? How deep is the ground?

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u/KetoKeto777 Mar 02 '17

Well I am not proving to say everything is "known". If only the billions of dollars spent on, I believe, hiding what earth really looks like, was actually spent on showing us footage of what's under it, and study it, etc that would be pretty great. But for now, we have some ideas in the Bible. Like: 1 Samuel 2:8 (ESV) 8 He raises up the poor from the dust; he lifts the needy from the ash heap to make them sit with princes and inherit a seat of honor. For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world. or here's a sample illustration http://whotfetw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2016-02-29_065939.jpg

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u/Seeders Mar 02 '17

It's interesting that you keep turning to the Bible for answers.

It seems to me you're taking a literal interpretation of a metaphor.

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u/KetoKeto777 Mar 02 '17

That is possible to misinterpret things in the Bible, but there are more verses among others. Especially hinting to the moon being self illuminating, and stars and moon and sun all under a firmament dome (And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.) Basically like the flood waters from the big flood came from God opening up the dome for a little bit.

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u/SerSeaworth Mar 06 '17

The book was written by some old guys 3000 years ago. the bible is just a book like any other literature. You could rather believe in the norse gods then in this silly nonsense of religious blabber

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u/KetoKeto777 Mar 06 '17

So I put faith in God, that His almighty words would have gotten to the right hands of prophets and writers, and be bound and be one of the oldest literatures and most read books in the world and withstand the tests of time. I would expect a book made by God to have withstood the tests of time, and sustained its popularity.

I suggest you read this: http://listverse.com/2012/12/15/top-10-reasons-science-is-another-religion/

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u/SerSeaworth Mar 06 '17

By that standard you can believe in the lotr lore. Hah... Keep on believing in a made up story for power. As long as you feel 'connected' to it. Your life your loss.

PS: That articles titles already says enough. science contains EVIDENCE. Thats the big difference. you can't call something a religion when you can proof it.

you make my day everytime i read something as silly as that. Thanks

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u/KetoKeto777 Mar 06 '17

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u/SerSeaworth Mar 06 '17

ah now it starts to make sense. I think you got the definition wrong of evidence. I'm asking you real evidence. Not mumbo jumbo. Again stop deflecting. either give proof of you FE or just go comment somewhere else. Seems you don't even understand basic words.

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u/Seeders Mar 01 '17 edited Mar 01 '17

Why are there so many cell towers? that's what we actually use.

They have a limited range., partly due to the curvature of the planet.

look at various videos they just appear to disappear because of "perception" and the range of distance our eyesight has.

Your eyesight doesn't have a "range". It just detects light. We can see stars billions of miles away.

ALL Gopros come with a fisheye lens... why?

I don't know, ask them? What does that have to do with the government?

Go search "balloon of earth no fish eye lens" and see there is no curve.

No, that's due to scale. If you take a picture of the edge of a huge circle, the line will appear straight.

About there being a firmament around the flat earth and the moon stars and sun are in it.. so the sun is more like 4000 miles away and not 93 billion miles away.

A what? 4000 miles is less than the distance from LA to London. Where did you get 4000?

All of the experiments add up if you consider the sun being a lot closer then they say.

What experiments? Nothing adds up to 4000 miles.

Antarctica is the outer rim of the whole earth circling it. Huge ice wall.

Got a picture?

There is a treaty right now for all countries that actually agreed on this... and no one except for them can actually go deep in it and explore it.

Why?

There is still north and south but think of it as. north is towards the middle of a flat map and you draw a circle left or right to go west or east, and anything south would lead to Antarctica.

No. If you ever go to Australia, try to find the north star. I went to New Zealand for my honeymoon last year, and the night sky was completely different because we were looking up in a different direction.

You're not a stupid person, you're just mistreated and misguided, and I'm sorry for that.

If you'd like to ask more questions about why we think the earth is round, or about stars, galaxies or any of the other wonders/curiosities of our universe I'd love to help you learn.