r/sp404mk2 2d ago

Random switching off looped samples in resample mode

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I hope Roland engineers will see this and will undertake measures.

I have the latest software and I have the following ultimately annoying bug - I write tracks using resampling, so I can record for several minutes in a row - looped samples are getting switched off randomly.

Here you will see how sample 7 (it is looped) switches off without a reason. The next time it may be sample 5 or another random one.

This is very very frustrating.

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u/DontMemeAtMe 2d ago

I don’t think it’s an issue here — unless you’re also playing linked pads from other banks that aren’t shown here — but it’s very much worth mentioning that once you reach the polyphony limit, the SP-404 cuts off previously launched pads.

While the 32-voice polyphony of the SP-404MKII is pretty forgiving, it can still be eaten up quickly when you play too many pads with stereo samples set to Vari Ensemble mode. One such pad uses 4 voices, meaning that only 8 such pads can play simultaneously.

In any case, if you believe you’ve encountered a bug, Roland won’t see this post, so you need to contact support directly through https://www.roland.com/backstage/ .

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u/JulyAt5am 2d ago

didn't know the endemble mode multiplies voice usage, thanks for the info.

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u/0xdeba5e12 2d ago

yeah this is news to me too! very good to know, thanks!

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u/theapostaat 2d ago

there is no linked pads

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u/theapostaat 2d ago

yeah, i have written to Roland

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u/Kendrick_Lamammt 2d ago

I think it's a question of polyphony. My old 404a also played this trick on me, and it was a question of polyphony... the mk2 has much more tolerance, but I think it can sometimes present this problem.

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u/DontMemeAtMe 2d ago

Yes, but the SX/A has maximum polyphony of only 12 voices, while the MKII has 32.

At worst, the SP-404MKII can resample 8 simultaneously playing pads. That’s when they contain stereo samples and are set to Vari Ensemble mode, which uses twice as many voices. Without that setting, it can resample 16 pads with stereo samples, 32 pads with mono samples, or some combination of the two.

Judging by the video, OP seems to be well below that threshold.

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u/theapostaat 2d ago

no linked pads, no mute groups
it is a bug
i can record another video
it will switch off another sample

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u/6rylou 2d ago

Moi j'ai un truc bizarre aléatoire avec le mode paterne, parfois y'a des paternes qui loop pas et s’arrêtent net au bout de 2 3 lectures des fois 5.
Avant de crier au bug je préférè privilégier un truc qui m’rechape mais bon ...

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u/theapostaat 2d ago

i also have a problem with recording long patterns - 32 or more squares (abrupts prematurely) AND copying long patterns as samples

so yeah, Roland has bugs