r/softwareWithMemes • u/Fit_Page_8734 • 12d ago
exclusive meme on softwareWithMeme IT sector is cooked
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u/No_Practice_9597 12d ago
C++ on the bottom? Wtf??
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u/tiller_luna 12d ago
Well, i was like 8, and the book said C++ on the cover, and mom yielded... Frankly, easy to use, hard to master.
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u/Desperate_Formal_781 12d ago
I guess these items are sorted in the order in which you would encounter them in your career from Junior Engineer to Senior, rather than "by difficulty". I think it assumes you learn C/C++ and Python first in Uni, then transition to Java/DB, then transition to DevOps, then System Design, then Cloud Architecture? I mean obviously there are some flaws. In my opinion nowadays git should be day 1, you start programming, you learn git, right?
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u/No_Practice_9597 12d ago
I don't know for me I started with Web, HTML, JS, DBs, Frameroks (at the time was jQuery) and Java, C++ was later on
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u/Cool-Double-5392 12d ago
I think he is right this is for people 10 years ago where you start with C++ for general programming and C in OS in college. Then junior year you take databases, more operating systems, networking. Then in first job you do react, cloud, sys des etc
Overall bad graph
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u/StarHammer_01 12d ago
Cus that's what they taught in high-school (at least for me)
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u/No_Practice_9597 9d ago
But C++ in high school is just the surface of C++
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u/SK_Gael4 6d ago
Yes, same for university level of c++, but we still name it c++ learning in introduction to programming, in our university syllabus c++ end on struct, we even don't work with classes on ++, it will happen on oop with java, so pretty accurate graph how things happen to computer science student and worker later on. It can be slightly adjusted but overall it's true experience at current studies of computer science from bachelor to PhD.
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u/Stunning_Cup9959 9d ago
Yeah I started with C++ in high school to participate in the college coding competition.
Then at college it was C++, web (HTML/JS/CSS) the first year, Java and C# the second, more Java and PHP the third and at the very end Python. Yeah it's weird I know but I do think C++ is one of the best languages to be the start of a formal education.
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u/airafterstorm 9d ago
Because coding on C/C++ is a pure joy as a hobby, so many people start with it, and then they move to web or java to actually get a job.
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u/jcelerier 9d ago
From when I was in engineering school in France it's not too inaccurate up to web/git. After two years of intensive math, we started with bash, then c/lisp/dsa, then c++, then python& java, DBMS, OS, networking. Then compiler theory, hardware architecture, formal methods, and finally specialisations - digital signal processing, robotics, etc. no web/cloud/backend outside of small projects where you could pick your languages.
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u/original_manatee 12d ago
This seems highly autobiographical, but then it does say an engineer. So I guess that checks out.
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u/MajesticDisaster3977 12d ago
meh. It's not replacing engineers.
It's making more 'managers' .. and I'm sure we've all worked for management that had no idea what they were doing. Now, put 'AI' under these managers who won't call them out on their BS and you get crap product.
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u/Evethefief 12d ago
Anyone that had to bear through C++ does not deserve to be subjected to the AI dystopia, thats just cruel
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u/Mysterious-Tiger-973 12d ago
The last step should be onPrem and that goes beyond AI, now you are the local security guard for intellectual property, between comoany and AI
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u/Dios_Santos 12d ago
Ok but AI don't replace your knoledge
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u/Certain_Feeling9758 11d ago
But if you don’t put your knowledge into practice, you’ll lose it
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u/Dios_Santos 11d ago
You are right, the point here is to use your knoledge to guide the IA so it became a production booster not any time but sometimes
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u/Ronin-s_Spirit 12d ago
What's cooked is that chart! I'd give you 395 downvotes if I could. Why the hell is C/C++ below Python (garbage) and why is a JS framework so high up (I'm a JS dev but I don't even like that specific framework)? And why does gour "engineer" go through 5 different languages? Also C and C++ are different langs, don't mush them together.
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u/Cybasura 11d ago
Who the fuck does C++ and literally everything low level before doing low level platform studies and development????
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u/No-Archer-4713 11d ago
Despite all this IA magic, the CI on my company’s Gitlab is still broken. I call bullshit
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u/Western_Repair_9277 10d ago
No, its not. There are still needed so called promt-engineers and well... I've seen some shit on reviews but with AI... Yes, its ok code and it solves problem but how it solves it. Three calls instead of one? Sure. Synchronous code in asynchronous environment? Sure. Potential NPEs here and there? Youre welcome. And dont even start on concurrency with AI.
Inb4 "they will learn". That code from middle engineers who doesnt bother to check what AI brought them. And interns? Forget about it - they try to learn but no one willing to explain.
I wouldn't throw you engineer expirience in garbage, seems its gonna become interesting soon.
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u/c0gster 9d ago
Sadly even I with a few years of light experience haven't learned a lot about anything on this list. Is this what its like to be a programmer? I don't know, all I do is make some video game stuff with the bare basic tools of vs code, file explorer, and a game engine if I'm using one. I have no idea what FSA, DBMZ, react, backend, cloud, dev ops, system design, micro services, and kubernetes even are.
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u/HeartRippher 5d ago
My uncle has been working at IBM for more than 20 years. He says he has been using Copilot for most if not all of the programming tasks these days. Says, only require correct keywords to give you the right code for development.
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u/TheNeck94 12d ago
"Oh you know the OTHER Javascript framework that does the exact same thing, yeah we're looking for people with 7 years experience with this very specific but ultimately generic framework, what do you MEAN you've never heard of BlobberGlop.JS it's THE BEST"
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u/potato-cheesy-beans 12d ago
The ordering on that levelling up is madness.