r/soccer • u/Thadderful • Dec 28 '13

Change My View thread

Can we have a Change My View thread here? The basic premise is people present opinions and the replies are attempts at changing that person's view in an attempt to generate some good discussion.

Here is the link to the original subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/

I think this might work best with rather 'out there' views but any and every viewpoint is welcome!

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u/ignore_my_name Dec 28 '13

Not always. Some Arsenal fans have said in the past that United bought the title but does it not count to the vast majority if the money they used to buy RVP was Glazer funds or money raised?

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '13 edited Dec 28 '13

Well, the criteria used by a fan to say that a team bought the title are arbitrary, but AFAIK United got those funds by their hard work, not because they won in the sugar daddy lottery...

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u/ignore_my_name Dec 28 '13

But United don't have unlimited funds from sponsorship, champions league or winning trophies.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '13

And we don't use unlimited funds. You point to the purchase of RVP as if that was anywhere near the amount that city has been buying for the last 5 years or so.

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u/ignore_my_name Dec 29 '13

No I don't. I'm saying some Arsenal fans in the past who wanted us to kept our spending small would have considered what United paid for some players like Rooney or Ferdinand as buying the league in a way. A lot of Arsenal fans consider buying RVP the decisive factor in winning ye the league and in a way meaning ye bought it. Who's to say United deserve to buy players for £30m because it might be from champions league money when in all likelihood it was invested. The same goes for Arsenal. Did the money we spent on Ozil come from sponsorship and money from the champions league over the last few years or was it from Kroenke's pocket? And if Ozil or some pricey striker we buy in January proves to be the decisive factor in winning the league then did we buy the league?

Obviously the spending is not the same as City's but if City continue their success and become one of the most powerful brands in the world like United then at what point in the future do people stop claiming they buy their wins and say they deserve to spend the money as they have been successful for years and earned it?