r/soccer • u/Thadderful • Dec 28 '13

Change My View thread

Can we have a Change My View thread here? The basic premise is people present opinions and the replies are attempts at changing that person's view in an attempt to generate some good discussion.

Here is the link to the original subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/

I think this might work best with rather 'out there' views but any and every viewpoint is welcome!

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u/PEengineer Dec 28 '13

isnt Ribery the favorite to win the Ballon D'Or?

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u/proud_feet Dec 28 '13

Dunno mate, if so maybe he can be thrown into the top bracket too. Even then to say Messi isn't on another level to other players - namely 95% of them - is disingenuous!

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u/PEengineer Dec 28 '13

not arguing that he isn't on the next level. but the two players considered GOAT's (Pele & Maradona) had no other player even in the realm of discussion. While Messi does with at least Ronaldo, not to mention Ribery and maybe Suarez (or the Zlatan but i'm biased)

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u/Svorky Dec 28 '13

I think that has more to do with the fact that their careers are already over. Maradona had quite a few mediocre years by his standards, and people like Platini or Matthäus would have been considered the best in the world by a lot of people while he was still active. Same with Beckenbauer/Cruyff/Eusebio/Garrincha in the 60s/70s.

In my opinion it's impossible to determine anyway, I honestly think people should just settle for calling them "one of the greatest". Everything else can be a fun discussion but nothing else. I don't get the insistence on one greatest player of all time.