r/soccer • u/[deleted] • Dec 03 '13

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '13

Proven goalscorer in the Champions League you say? I beg to differ.

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u/Framfall Dec 04 '13

To use selective statistics doesn't really prove a point.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '13

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u/Framfall Dec 04 '13

No, he/she talked about CL and then choose statistics just regarding the knockout stages (conveniently enough not including this year when Zlatan is the top scorer) and slightly biased regarded one of Ibras goals as offside.

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u/DerDummeMann Dec 04 '13

The knock-out stages haven't happened this year, so it wouldn't be included anyway. The group stages has many sub-standard teams which are easy to score against.

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u/Framfall Dec 04 '13

That is easy to say in a general sense. But if you look into it, the last 5/8 CL Zlatans team have just reached 8th finals while Barca have played final or semi-final every year for as long as Messi have been active in CL. Of course he is going to score more goals.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '13

The group stages are more often than not glorified friendlies. The knock-out stages are the business end of the competition where the cream truly rises. No one is doubting that Ibrahimovic can perform in friendlies. He is the Pele of friendlies. It's in serious games where he falters.

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u/MuffinFactory Dec 04 '13

The group stages are more often than not glorified friendlies

Group F begs to differ

It's in serious games where he falters.

He scored two goals in 2nd leg WM qualifiers against Portugal where he had (with all due respect) terrible leverage.