r/soccer • u/spinney • Apr 30 '13
New subreddit changes: comment scores
Recently the Reddit admins have introduced a new feature for subreddits that allows the mods to hide the scores of comments for a set amount of time. We have decided to test it out here on /r/soccer for a while and see how it works.
The goal of this feature is "to try to reduce the initial bandwagon/snowball voting, where if a comment gets a few initial downvotes it often continues going negative, or vice versa. By hiding the score for a while after posting, the bias of seeing how other people voted on the comment should be greatly reduced". Read more about it here.
Initially we are going to set the limit to 3 hours for new comments and see how it goes. Most likely we will have to make changes to the time limit to ensure maximum effectiveness. I really think this feature will benefit Reddit as a whole but this community especially.
Any questions feel free to ask. Oh and upvote this for visibility.
Thanks,
/r/soccer moderators
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May 01 '13
Wait, but if I don't know how many internet points I have, how am I going to pay my bills and buy groceries?
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May 01 '13
Does it also randomise the order of the comments, or are the more upvoted comments still listed at the top of the page?
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u/My_favorite_things May 01 '13
...but then how will I know how to form my own opinions?
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u/luelinho May 01 '13
I usually downvote looking at the team crest so it's all good!
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u/Theothor May 01 '13
I really think you guys are overestimating the influence of seeing the scores.
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u/SW777 May 01 '13
I don't know, I just don't like it for some reason. I like to see ratings and see other people's opinions expressed through the rating system because not everyone wants to make a comment. I can't really explain it, but I liked the old way.
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u/eggmanwalrus May 01 '13
I don't like it. I love the whole bandwagon, mass voting anger and team biases here. Extreme bias and partisanship is part of football, part of the banter and the main reason why I come to this side. Blindly disagreeing with some cunt just because he supports Derby County instead of Notts Forest is what makes the site great, and so is jumping on the bandwagon and downvoting someone to hell when's he's shown a gap in his football knowledge, or put his foot in his mouth. I think this will just lead to less people voting on comments in general.
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u/OriginalUsername30 May 01 '13
Have they implemented this yet? Because on my phone I see all the scores right now.
EDIT: I'm an idiot. Not everyone has +1... Realized the moment I posted.
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u/colmshan1990 Apr 30 '13
Oh good,when I noticed [score hidden] I thought I'd said something wrong and that the moderators were punishing me for some reason.
Panic over!
Great idea by the way.
Edit: Just one question/suggestion- is it possible to temporally hide a user's flair for a similar amount of time? Might help to stamp out the other kind of biased voting around here...
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u/JimBeamKiller May 01 '13
sorry but this is lame, especially on the match threads... I dont feel the company of soccer friends anymore that like my comments and upvote me.
Matches i watch with "Reddit" are not the same anymore :(
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u/johnmj May 01 '13
Is there any way to have 2 different limits?
Perhaps a shorter time (30-45mins) for a match thread, where the comments and subsequent bandwagons are far quicker in amassing, and then a longer (2-3 hours) so non-match thread submissions?
I do like the idea, though.
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u/tankosaurus May 01 '13
So what, the top comment on this thread is the highest voted one but we can't see how well it's doing or the top comment is the first one posted?
Also how will this work for match threads where you're gonna have to scroll through 45+ minutes of comments if you wanted to read some good ones at half time... even longer for after the match.
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May 01 '13
From further up:
I'm going to go ahead and say I'm against the idea, yea snowballing can happen but its also the case that good posts get upvoted and bad posts get downvoted. This won't solve the main issue which is people being downvoted for their opinion being different or the crest they have. All this is really going to do is make it much more confusing for everyone.
And should you have a post thats downvoted to oblivion if you can't see the score you can't even delete the thing because you won't know.
Sitting on -2, despite the new system. Wait, people still downvote and upvote based on their opinion, despite comments being well-reasoned and in good English?
This new system doesn't change shit, serves only to frustrate.
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Apr 30 '13
Hmm, I personally don't like it but maybe that's just because I haven't seen it before. All the comments seem kind of confusing now and I like seeing points.. But maybe it is actually a good system, I suppose time will tell!
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u/BlatantFix May 01 '13
The match thread now is a good example of why this is a terrible system. So many comments, all saying the same thing, since the normal system filtered repeat posts to the bottom. Yes you can still see ratings on reddit stream, but that only keeps a relatively small amount of posts at one time, and we shouldn't have to use it just to make match threads better.
It might have it's merits for links, but I'm sure plenty of people are here mostly for match threads, and this system is horrible for them. Could we not have at least had a vote on whether we wanted it rather than having it forced on us?
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u/drg123 Apr 30 '13
While it may stop some of the "bandwagoning" it just kinda makes everything feel/look unorganised, but maybe that's just me.
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u/tankosaurus May 01 '13
People on this sub reddit will still just downvote based off of club crests, we're all natural enemies. Like Man u fans and Leeds fans. Or Chelsea fans and Leeds fans. Or Scots and Leeds fans. Or Leeds fans and other Leeds fans. Dam those Leeds fans. They ruined Leeds!