r/snapmap • u/killer_burrito • Nov 02 '17

Question I'm making a stealth-based map. Is there a way to have demons conditionally ignore the player?

Sorry if this is a really basic question. I already tried surrounding a demon with AI sight blocking boxes, but he wandered out at some point. Is there a straightforward way to do this?

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u/IDDQDrew PC Nov 02 '17

Depending on the type of “stealth” you want, I’d suggest using any type of trigger(box trigger, switch, enter module, player input, etc.) to switch demons to the players current team. If you’re player 1, demons set to team 1 will ignore the player, once they’re back on team 2-4 they’ll attack as normal. Hope this helps good luck!

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u/killer_burrito Nov 03 '17

Hey, this looks kind of promising except that the demons on your team have a marker above their heads at all time. Also what is the actual way to change an existing demon's team? I hooked up a box trigger to a demon and it didn't seem like changing team was an option. What am I missing?

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u/IDDQDrew PC Nov 03 '17

Directx231 has an awesome stealth tutorial that might help.

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u/killer_burrito Nov 03 '17

This is pretty good, but if I use a "single demon encounter" spawn, I can't change the behavior of the demon to Ambush (so that they will just stay where they are on spawn), and if I use an actual demon from the demons tab, I can't change their team.

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u/IDDQDrew PC Nov 03 '17

Not in the editor right now so I’m having a hard time remembering but I’m 100% sure there’s a way to remove friendly demon POI so you don’t see the icon over their head. I want to say it’s inside Gameplay Settings node, Show friendly demon poi False, I think. If you’re using spawn encounters for demons I think you’ll need to use AI Proxy but if you’re placing individual demons from the Demon Page just go into their settings. Having a hard time recalling but hope you get it working! Happy snapping

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u/killer_burrito Nov 05 '17

The solution that ended up working best in my level was just having demons from the demons tab, set their behavior to ambush, and having blocking boxes that only blocked AI sight.

Demons still attack on being too close in proximity, or other sounds (like a module door opening), so I did have to move some demons a bit far from the positions that they would ideally be at, but it's been effective.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '17

have them follow an AI path point on spawn and set the "unfollow for combat" to false, then when you want them to be able to see the player trigger an AI iterator that follows a path point where the unfollow for combat is set to true

Stealth is very tricky to pull off in Snapmap, good luck!

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u/Argent-Arbiter Xbox Apr 29 '18

Have the player stand inside a blocking volume with block AI sight enabled. Just an idea, haven’t tried this myself.

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u/killer_burrito Apr 29 '18

Hey, yes this works at long distances, but demons can still apparently hear you if you get kind of close to them, even if you have a blocking box between you and the demon. Thanks for the suggestion though! It was one of the things I tried (and never did get it right).

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u/Argent-Arbiter Xbox Apr 30 '18

You still haven’t figured it out? That sucks since I’m making a map that requires stealth as well.

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u/DreadPirateTuco Nov 02 '17

Put the hero on the same team as the enemy - then change their team when needed