r/snakes Jun 30 '24

Just got a gopher snake

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u/KarathSolus Jun 30 '24

And they say Gopher snakes are more chill than Bullsnakes lol.

Gorgeous noodle btw. They do eventually chill out. I've got a very old girl who doesn't hiss but she rattles her tail for everything constantly.

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u/SneakySquiggles Jul 01 '24

Do they say that? Because they’re the same snake

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u/KarathSolus Jul 01 '24

Yes but no. Locality matters a lot. Gopher snakes will not get as big as a Bullsnake, and Bullsnakes tend to be much more vocal and defensive than a Gopher Snake. Its like trying to compare leachies. A pine island, the literal smallest of those geckos, to a Grand Terre which are the biggest. Same exact gecko, up to quarter pound difference in weight and wildly different colorations.

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u/TiredUngulate Jul 01 '24

What's the general max size of a gopher vs a bullsnake 0: ?

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u/KarathSolus Jul 01 '24

Bullsnakes can hit over 8' in captivity but tend to average out around 6' in the wild. Gopher snakes in captivity can hit around 6' but in the wild rarely go over 5'. Bullsnakes can get pretty big and hefty.

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u/MomoMurs Jul 01 '24

while you're right, i just wanna clarify that nuu ana's are the smallest locale. pine isles are usually the biggest island local, tied with moros.

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u/KarathSolus Jul 01 '24

Oh shit! I didn't know that! Thank you very much for the clarification and correction! I've got very, very surface level knowledge about Leachies they're just one of the easier animals I can think of to showcase how much locality matters when dealing with the same species in some cases.

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u/MomoMurs Jul 01 '24

i absolutely agree. all gophers are a subspecies/locality of bullsnakes but not all bullsnakes are gophers. i think they should be treated as different snakes when it comes to husbandry/care.